Maulmachine Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 "In the ancient days of RuneScape, several great warriors walked the land. With all of the bloodshed in the PvP worlds, their equipment is heeding the call and returning to the surface... " This is the introduction to the section of the knowledge base that deals with the new pvp armors, it would seem as if these warriors are somewhat similar to the barrows brother, possibly even saradomin's counter to them. What we know about these great warriors is that their names are, Morrian(The Ranger), Statius(Melee, its also noteworthy that all of his armor has a lower strength bonus than that of Vesta,however his defence is far higher than Vesta) Vesta( Let's call him The Strong he was the highest strength bonus than any other warrior that has roamed runescape, his armor is not very defensive.) And lastly, Zuriel the Mage. Where did these warriors come from? The miasmic spellbook seems to hint that there may even be more spells to come, such as other opposing spellbooks, how were these warriors destroyed? Who were they loyal to? I have also discovered this. Vesta is The goddess of the hearth, worshiped in a temple containing the sacred fire tended by the vestal virgins. Morrigan is a celtic war goddess. translation is the phantom queen. Morrigan's symbol is a crow. Morrigan appears vaguely in Irish Mythology, however Morrigan is comparable to the German Valkyries. Statius is the last name of a renowned roman poet, weird. I can't really find much on him, just that he's a poet, I'll look more in to the literal definition of his name. Zuriel has a hebrew origin and it means "The Lord My Rock". Miasmic also means a noxious environment and atmosphere, maybe zuriel has managed to tip the balance of elements in the air? Discuss. Corporeal Drops:2xHoly elixersBandos Drops: Bcp(soloed) 5x hilts 8x tassets Armadyl Drops:Armadyl Hilt(trio)Zamorak Drops: 2xZamorakian spear 3x Steam battlestaff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyPunchers Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Very interesing,now that I think of it. I'd love to see something like Varla's son(and all the others) as another group of Barrows brothers. A stronger, 80+ defense version. Thanks to all those who have messaged me concerning a revamp of my Range-Slayer guide. Because of you all I will start rewriting it asap.[/color] Formerly RobinHoodie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel555555 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 hmmm who knows there was a post somewhere in knoledge base about arav comming across a house full of people fighting and supposedly 3 of them were zammy sara and guthix. maby they were some of the lessers gods who crowded the house? btw the barrow brothers fought for saradomin so i doubt they are his [spoiler=click you know you wanna]Me behave? Seriously? As a child I saw Tarzan almost naked, Cinderella arrived home from a party after midnight, Pinocchio told lies, Aladin was a thief, Batman drove over 200 miles an hour, Snow White lived in a house with seven men, Popeye smoked a pipe and had tattoos, Pac man ran around to digital music while eating pills that enhanced his performance, and Shaggy and Scooby were mystery solving hippies who always had the munchies. The fault is not mine! if you had this childhood and loved it put this in your signature! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Smither Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Wow extremely interesting. Nice research. Click for My Blog670th to 99 Smithing July 21st, 07 |743rd to 99 Mining November 29th, 07 | 649th to 99 Runecrafting May 18th, 08 | 29,050th to 99 Defence October 20th, 08 | 20,700th to 99 Magic November 8, 08 | 47,938th to 99 Attack December 19, 08 | 37,829th to 99 Hitpoints December 24, 08 | 68,604th to 99 Strength February 4, 09 | 27,983rd to 99 Range February 9, 09 | 9,725th to 99 Prayer June 8, 09 | 6,620th to 99 Slayer December, 12 09 | 4,075th to 99 Summoning December, 28 09 | 3,551th to 99 Herblore February 24, 10 | 3,192th to 99 Dungeoneering November 11, 10 | 146,600th to 99 Cooking December 29th, 10 | 11,333rd to 99 Construction June 7th, 11 | 16,648th to 99 Farming August 1st, 11 | 19,993th to 99 Crafting August 2nd, 11 | 89,739th to 99 Woodcutting Janurary 1st, 12 | 55,424th to 99 Fishing May 9th, 12| 60,648th to 99 Firemaking May 12th, 12 | 16666th to 99 Agility May 17th, 2012 | 24476th to 99 Hunter June 1st, 2012 | 57,881st to 99 Fletching June 1st, 2012 | All 99s June 1st, 2012 | 3183th to 120 Dungeoneering July 24th, 2012 | 2341st to 2496 Total level July 24th, 2012 | Completionist Cape July 24th, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maulmachine Posted October 20, 2008 Author Share Posted October 20, 2008 Wow extremely interesting. Nice research. Thanks, I might look more into statius, statius is not a name of a god that I know of, anyone else heard of a statius? Corporeal Drops:2xHoly elixersBandos Drops: Bcp(soloed) 5x hilts 8x tassets Armadyl Drops:Armadyl Hilt(trio)Zamorak Drops: 2xZamorakian spear 3x Steam battlestaff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyPunchers Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Only Statius that I've found throughout history is a roman poet. :/ Thanks to all those who have messaged me concerning a revamp of my Range-Slayer guide. Because of you all I will start rewriting it asap.[/color] Formerly RobinHoodie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoknight2 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Like RobinHoodie said, itd be interesting to have a second set of "Barrows Brothers." Perhaps these new Ancients were part of the Godwars and were great warriors, like Azzanandra (sp?). Pretty interesting if Jagex expands on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
999134 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 the lord my rock! leave no stone unturned :o Check it out, huge amount of effort has gone into this massive mod![hide=old sig][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kazumaishimaru Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I hope we get a wallpaper or something soon on how they look. It would also be interesting if they were all female, to be like they opposite of the brothers :lol: I am nice. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maulmachine Posted October 20, 2008 Author Share Posted October 20, 2008 Like RobinHoodie said, itd be interesting to have a second set of "Barrows Brothers." Perhaps these new Ancients were part of the Godwars and were great warriors, like Azzanandra (sp?). Pretty interesting if Jagex expands on this. Actually this would work, we know that the night the barrows brothers died they were fighting badly, karil wasn't as accurate, the other brothers also were fighting badly, maybe a more powerful miasmic spell had be cast upon them. Corporeal Drops:2xHoly elixersBandos Drops: Bcp(soloed) 5x hilts 8x tassets Armadyl Drops:Armadyl Hilt(trio)Zamorak Drops: 2xZamorakian spear 3x Steam battlestaff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hantoumei Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Do you mean these warriors being Zamorak's counter to the Barrows Brothers? Seeing as they were spearheading the crusade in Morytania after the Godwars and all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 It should be noted that Vesta, Statius, and Zuriel are males, while Morrigan is a female. Check the weapon speeds page and the range, melee, and mage guides in the KB, respectively. I am also extremely curious as to who these warriors were. Because of what the KB says, it seems as though they just enjoyed fighting. But, who knows. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodArgon Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 the lord my rock! leave no stone unturned :o That does make some sense, maybe hes onto something. 99 Crafting :: 39,750th || 99 Attack :: 1,775th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouwzie Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 the lord my rock! leave no stone unturned :o That does make some sense, maybe hes onto something. First time he makes sense.... OT: Very nice find, hope you guys find more out. I'm not that much into researching stuff in an online game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maulmachine Posted October 20, 2008 Author Share Posted October 20, 2008 the lord my rock! leave no stone unturned :o That does make some sense, maybe hes onto something. First time he makes sense.... OT: Very nice find, hope you guys find more out. I'm not that much into researching stuff in an online game. You kind of insulted us and complimented us there :? I believe I mentioned morrigan was a female... and you are wayy wrong if you think morrigan is the only male, if you checked you'd see that vesta is a goddess. If vesta is meant to be a male than it is unimportant, because we can pretty much guarantee that the origin is with the Roman goddess. Corporeal Drops:2xHoly elixersBandos Drops: Bcp(soloed) 5x hilts 8x tassets Armadyl Drops:Armadyl Hilt(trio)Zamorak Drops: 2xZamorakian spear 3x Steam battlestaff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 the lord my rock! leave no stone unturned :o That does make some sense, maybe hes onto something. First time he makes sense.... OT: Very nice find, hope you guys find more out. I'm not that much into researching stuff in an online game. You kind of insulted us and complimented us there :? I believe I mentioned morrigan was a female... and you are wayy wrong if you think morrigan is the only male, if you checked you'd see that vesta is a goddess. If vesta is meant to be a male than it is unimportant, because we can pretty much guarantee that the origin is with the Roman goddess. wat. I said Morrigan is the only female in the group. The others are referred to as "he" in the KB. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mervinator_9 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Do you mean these warriors being Zamorak's counter to the Barrows Brothers? Seeing as they were spearheading the crusade in Morytania after the Godwars and all... Ye i thought that too.... The barrow brothers fought for saradomin, Good research though, hopefully their back stories will be expanded on. Does anyone remember if when the Barrows came out did the lores and histories on them appear at the same time? Theres a fine line between not listening and not caring,I like to think I walk this line every day. Pinning blame on Jagex is like trying to put pants on an old man. You both know he needs them, but he'll just keep dancing around, avoiding them at all costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maulmachine Posted October 20, 2008 Author Share Posted October 20, 2008 the lord my rock! leave no stone unturned :o That does make some sense, maybe hes onto something. First time he makes sense.... OT: Very nice find, hope you guys find more out. I'm not that much into researching stuff in an online game. You kind of insulted us and complimented us there :? I believe I mentioned morrigan was a female... and you are wayy wrong if you think morrigan is the only male, if you checked you'd see that vesta is a goddess. If vesta is meant to be a male than it is unimportant, because we can pretty much guarantee that the origin is with the Roman goddess. wat. I said Morrigan is the only female in the group. The others are referred to as "he" in the KB. I couldn't find any referenced to vesta as he/her, or statius as her/he. Could you show me some? Corporeal Drops:2xHoly elixersBandos Drops: Bcp(soloed) 5x hilts 8x tassets Armadyl Drops:Armadyl Hilt(trio)Zamorak Drops: 2xZamorakian spear 3x Steam battlestaff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seraphiii Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Wouldn't it make more sense, logically, that they would actually be Zarosian? For one of them (Zuriel) to have access to Ancient Magicks implies that she was in league with Zaros. At the same time, the fact that the drops occur in PvP worlds (PvP used to be the wilderness, Zaros' domain, originally. This is a bit farfetched,) would also imply that the warriors would have to be either Zamorakian or Zarosian. Considering how ancient the armor must be for it to erode so quickly, I would guess Zarosian. Jagex won't confirm it for a while, as they don't like to hint of Zaros too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 [hide=]the lord my rock! leave no stone unturned :o That does make some sense, maybe hes onto something. First time he makes sense.... OT: Very nice find, hope you guys find more out. I'm not that much into researching stuff in an online game. You kind of insulted us and complimented us there :? I believe I mentioned morrigan was a female... and you are wayy wrong if you think morrigan is the only male, if you checked you'd see that vesta is a goddess. If vesta is meant to be a male than it is unimportant, because we can pretty much guarantee that the origin is with the Roman goddess. wat. I said Morrigan is the only female in the group. The others are referred to as "he" in the KB. I couldn't find any referenced to vesta as he/her, or statius as her/he. Could you show me some?[/hide] http://www.runescape.com/kbase/viewarti ... le_id=2009 There's where it mentions Zuriel and Morrigan as being male and female, respectively. But, you're right in that it doesn't specify the genders of Vesta or Statius. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Wouldn't it make more sense, logically, that they would actually be Zarosian? For one of them (Zuriel) to have access to Ancient Magicks implies that she was in league with Zaros. At the same time, the fact that the drops occur in PvP worlds (PvP used to be the wilderness, Zaros' domain, originally. This is a bit farfetched,) would also imply that the warriors would have to be either Zamorakian or Zarosian. Considering how ancient the armor must be for it to erode so quickly, I would guess Zarosian. Jagex won't confirm it for a while, as they don't like to hint of Zaros too much. I think you've got something with Zuriel using Ancients. The KB mentions that Zuriel mastered both Ancients and Modern magicks, so I don't know if that means he's just a great mage, or Ancient Magicks were taught to him. EDIT: Scratch that, it just says he mastered Ancients. Very curious. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maulmachine Posted October 20, 2008 Author Share Posted October 20, 2008 Wouldn't it make more sense, logically, that they would actually be Zarosian? For one of them (Zuriel) to have access to Ancient Magicks implies that she was in league with Zaros. At the same time, the fact that the drops occur in PvP worlds (PvP used to be the wilderness, Zaros' domain, originally. This is a bit farfetched,) would also imply that the warriors would have to be either Zamorakian or Zarosian. Considering how ancient the armor must be for it to erode so quickly, I would guess Zarosian. Jagex won't confirm it for a while, as they don't like to hint of Zaros too much. Yeah, I think that zuriel might be zamorakian and managed to steal the ability to cst these spells, however this is largely speculation. Corporeal Drops:2xHoly elixersBandos Drops: Bcp(soloed) 5x hilts 8x tassets Armadyl Drops:Armadyl Hilt(trio)Zamorak Drops: 2xZamorakian spear 3x Steam battlestaff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbeer0 Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Yeah, I think that zuriel might be zamorakian and managed to steal the ability to cst these spells, however this is largely speculation. Probably just did Desert Treasure. Duh. :D OH S***! He/she/it is back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maulmachine Posted October 21, 2008 Author Share Posted October 21, 2008 Yeah, I think that zuriel might be zamorakian and managed to steal the ability to cst these spells, however this is largely speculation. Probably just did Desert Treasure. Duh. :D Where is zuriel mentioned in desert treasure? Corporeal Drops:2xHoly elixersBandos Drops: Bcp(soloed) 5x hilts 8x tassets Armadyl Drops:Armadyl Hilt(trio)Zamorak Drops: 2xZamorakian spear 3x Steam battlestaff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenkana Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Maybe they fought alone or for any sides? Who says they had to serve together? Oh, I have my own wacky theory about Zuriel. You know that Golem in the desert? Well, maybe Zuriel created him and the rest of the Golem army. Remember, the Golem is a figure originally from Jewish mythology. Given Zuriel's Hebrew name, there may exist a connection. If the CORPORAL beast is this hard, imagine how hard a GENERAL or COLONEL beast would be. a corporal is not even an admirable rank in armies that use that ranking system. Yeah, it is a pking minigame, so any arguments anybody makes will probably be biased.The best way this will end :Everybody just says,"I'm not arguing with you anymore, goodbye."The worst way this will end: I don't really know, psychological warfare? Worldwide thermonuclear war? Pie eating contest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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