Slayer.

[RayOxide]

As you probably have noticed, my slayer level isnt too high - it's not because I dont like it, its because I dont like how other people do it, or the way it's set up.

 

 

 

1. About the setup - Masters have numerous tasks which they apply so much they lose meaning. I hope you know what I mean. In all honesty Jagex should update slayer and only let you get (__) task in (__) amount of tasks, eg, Mithril Dragons, 2 per 5.

 

Though some people like the tasks they always get, some people, most people hate it and find it very boring. Slayer is meant to be about variety, not getting the same task so many times.

 

 

 

2. About the way people slay - I dont mind it when people slay and use guthans or cannons, (though I hate cannons, not for the annoying zomg u stel ma spot thing) but I really hate it when people tell you HOW to slay. "Yes you have to use a ____" is fine, since you actually HAVE to. If people tell you this way is better, that way is bad, your way is stupid, dont listen to them. If you know the basics of a task, like magic-based attacks, safespots, etc, do it YOUR way. Use what you want to. Once again, Slayer was made for variety, meaning you can do what you want on what you want. And remember, you dont need barrows equiptment. Anyone who calls you a noob for wearing rune/dragon/granite, in my opinion, can get bleeped.

 

 

 

If anyone has a problem or agrees, post away. It's what the rants forum is about.

 

 

 

End-note: There is no real way to train slayer. It's a skill which is meant to be done differently by all people.

[Ezz]

I agree on #1. And about #2, you could just ignore them if they're insulting you, that's pretty much like every other "players are insulting me" rant. Sure I agree people shouldn't be insulting others over a game, but an easy solution is just ignoring them. I appreciate their helping me become better though (without insulting me that is) :P

[Snipers_end]

You're ranting about people who try to help you by giving you tips on slayer.... (and if you still wear rune and are (is?) not a pure then you ARE a noob. Granite and dragon are fine though, although granite pushes it)

[RayOxide]

Wearing rune isnt nooby. Wearing barrows to an easy slayer task is nooby. And lots of people cannot afford dragon armour, and also, granite is super ugly and only is good for ranged defence. (I didnt mean full rune I meand body and legs btw) And for saying wearing rune is nooby, gtfo.

 

 

 

@Ez, I appreciate you for not flaming me whilst giving your opinion, but I have to say, if someone tells you to 'help' you, Im fine with that, but if they tell you that you have to pray piety (because its the "right" way to slay) in almost every task, that's kinda pushing it.

[crik24]

gud rant

[Master_Smither]

Sure the task thing is ok but it's pushing it because if you block 4 of your hated tasks you usually get some good ones. I get alot of greaters and spectre but they are ok I don't mind. Um the #2 rant is just off they are just saying what to do most people don't go "omfg you [cabbage] noob your supposed to use piety to slay your such a stupid dumb [cabbage] noob who doesn't know how to slay lol!". I think your bad experience with slayer caused you to write this rant. Personally slayer has it's bad times for me but I end up just skipping those tasks. I realy don't know what to write at 6 am but this rant isn't that good so it'd probably both mixed together. Also it seems that you hate the noobs who are super duper avid slayers who tell you what to do and how to do it. But I'm not sure again it's 6am and I've been alching for 4 hours.

 

 

 

[hide=btw]SLAYER FTW

 

This is for 007wood :twss:[/hide]

[Bauke]

Wearing rune isnt nooby. Wearing barrows to an easy slayer task is nooby. And lots of people cannot afford dragon armour, and also, granite is super ugly and only is good for ranged defence. (I didnt mean full rune I meand body and legs btw) And for saying wearing rune is nooby, gtfo.

 

 

 

 

You whine at people commenting at what you wear during slayer and yet you do exactly the same thing in the same post.

[RayOxide]

.. :| @last bit

 

It's just annoying in life and in MMORPGS and other types of multiplayer games where people order you around because they think they know best :roll:

 

 

 

Oh theres was something else I was gunna say but i forgot.

 

 

 

*twss wifout emote*

 

 

 

@Bauke, I dont wear rune in most slayer assignments, and I just said dragon armour is expensive, and if you have the level its cheaper (and better) to go with barrows, I know im sorta being hypocritical there but its an actual fact - it's the *right* thing to do.

 

But about the granite, nothing about it, its just ugly. :)

[Bauke]

It's not a fact, it's an opinion. And yes, it's hypocrite. Especially when stating wearing some sort of armour is nooby AND displaying it as a fact. Exactly the same behaviour as what you're ranting at. Which pretty much demolishes your point.

[nicrune007]

Meh don't listen what other people tell you, if their way is better than good for them. Happy happy...

 

 

 

 

 

[hide=btw]55 SLAYER FTW

 

This is for runescapew44!! :twss:[/hide]

[RayOxide]

Barrows (I meant torags / dharoks legs/body) being cheaper, and better than dragon? It's not an opinion - it IS a fact.

 

 

 

And when I ranted about this it was people saying you dont slay "right" because they slay their way, that's an opinion, not a fact.

 

I also stated that I like it when people actually help by saying real facts not opinionised crap.

 

 

 

@Nicrune, why so lame?

 

If their way is better its better for them, not always the person they tell. Does noone understand that?

[Teeg]

Work out the best way for you. Don't listen to what others have done.

 

 

 

Sure I could tell you how I do slayer, but I wouldn't tell you that's the ONLY way to do it, or even the BEST way to do it. Wear what you like, fight how you like, your game, your choice.

 

 

 

 

 

Teeg

[ShadowTwisted]

I'll admit that Slayer tasks can be annoying or somewhat tedious, however I prefer to look at it as a way to train my stats. For instance, I got assigned a task of 115 blue dragons. I figured that if I ranged them, I could cut down or eliminate the food used for more kills. I ended up going up about 7 range levels by the end of it. The only thing that was mentioned to me was that green drags were better to train on, to which I simply replied that the blues were my slayer task and no more was said.

 

 

 

As in all MMORPGs, you will have a handful of people who get a kick out of telling "noobs" a "better" way to train that gets them killed. So any advice is hit or miss and you can make of it what you will.

[compfreak847]

1. About the setup - Masters have numerous tasks which they apply so much they lose meaning. I hope you know what I mean. In all honesty Jagex should update slayer and only let you get (__) task in (__) amount of tasks, eg, Mithril Dragons, 2 per 5.

 

Though some people like the tasks they always get, some people, most people hate it and find it very boring. Slayer is meant to be about variety, not getting the same task so many times.

There's only 20 monsters; it's bound to get repetitive around the 50,000th

 

 

 

 

2. About the way people slay - I dont mind it when people slay and use guthans or cannons, (though I hate cannons, not for the annoying zomg u stel ma spot thing) but I really hate it when people tell you HOW to slay. "Yes you have to use a ____" is fine, since you actually HAVE to. If people tell you this way is better, that way is bad, your way is stupid, dont listen to them. If you know the basics of a task, like magic-based attacks, safespots, etc, do it YOUR way. Use what you want to. Once again, Slayer was made for variety, meaning you can do what you want on what you want. And remember, you dont need barrows equiptment. Anyone who calls you a noob for wearing rune/dragon/granite, in my opinion, can get bleeped.

 

What's so bad about it? Unless they are flaming you or calling you a noob for what your doing (which is flaming plain and simple, not related to slayer), they are simply trying to help. 'this way is better'? 'that way is bad'? I've said both of those things upon occasion, trying to help some poor soul killing ankous complete with full rune and scimmy (I'm a member). Your way is stuipd? That's approaching flaming, but that's not a problem specific to slayer. You can do it your way - but there might be another, much faster way that's worth at least listening to. Anyone who calls you a noob should be promptly ignored, although barrows armor IS better. The 8k repair cost per hour is minuscule; I just bought and sold bandos (well, the tassets... the plate went on a 24 hour loan to a friend before it's dumped in the GE at min), and I hated it. It had low defence, no prayer bonus, and didn't really do much to my max hit. Yeah, it was fun smacking 51s on monkey zombies with my whip, but I had to renew prayer far more often, which was a huge inconvenience, plus the fact that the armor was still slowly falling, losing me money every day. Plus barrows has huge prayer bonuses; proslyte top and verac skirt will get you good defence and amazing prayer bonus. So yeah, using barrows on an 'easy task' doesn't make you a noob, as you so handily pointed out - directly contradicting your earlier post.

 

 

 

Slayer was made for variety, meaning you can do what you want on what you want... ...Anyone who calls you a noob for wearing rune/dragon/granite, in my opinion, can get bleeped.

 

Wearing barrows to an easy slayer task is nooby.

 

#-o

[obfuscator]

I completely agree with your second point. I never tell anyone they have to do anything; I merely reccomend ways to improve the training based on my experience with the skill.

 

 

 

Of course the xp is faster when using piety...but can you afford the prayer potions?

 

 

 

Of course cannoning is super fast xp on many tasks...but can you afford it?

 

 

 

For the first point, I agree and disagree. I do find it annoying that the same task can be given twice in a row, but I also find that once I put my blocks in place I can stand the multiple tasks. For example, I use duradel;

 

 

 

I have steel dragons, hellhounds, kalphites and skeletal wyverns blocked.

 

 

 

I have goraks and warped terrorbirds blocked by lack of quests.

 

 

 

The only task I still don't like that much are iron drags and black demons, but at my range lvl (86) black demons are excellent xp and iron drags will make profit now that I use broad bolts :)

[Sumpta]

Agree big time on #2. I'm 99 slayer, got it quite a while ago now, when Bandos was brand new and piety was for monster hunting instead of everyday slayer experience. I'm actually getting nervous about re-entering the slayer grounds (going to once I've achieved some other goals). Heaven forbid I wear the 'wrong' gear or don't piety! For some mysterious reason, there are plenty of people out there these days who assume there's only one good way of trainer slayer, namely with efficiency maximized to the absurd. I guess there's just too many people desperate for that cape?

[ShadowTwisted]

I now realize that slayer is NOT about variety. The fact that different methods/equipment work on different creatures still revolves around Slayer's main concept: KILLING STUFF! Regardless of what your assigned target is, the goal is to kill a specific number of a specific creature then report back to get a new assignment to kill a specific number of a specific creature. The cycle, as with most skills in RuneScape, has a certain level of monotony to it. However, the only way to get better at something is to keep doing it, right? So in the end, there's nothing to really be done about it. Also, if you don't like the assignment you got, there's a chance Turael will change it for you \

[BloodArgon]

Also, if you don't like the assignment you got, there's a chance Turael will change it for you \

 

 

 

That went down the drain with slayer points.

[Zaaps1]

You're ranting about people who try to help you by giving you tips on slayer.... (and if you still wear rune and are (is?) not a pure then you ARE a noob. Granite and dragon are fine though, although granite pushes it)

 

 

 

Sorry for the following off-topic:

 

 

 

The correct form is are because of the verb conjugation of "to be". The conjugation goes:

 

 

 

I-am

 

You-are

 

He-is

 

We-are

 

You all-are

 

They-are.

 

 

 

So, when you said: "and if you still wear rune and are (is?) not a pure then you ARE a noob", YOU is the subject of the sentence, therefore the correct verb to use would be "are", not "is". Is would only be used if you are referring to Ray in the third person, like suppose you are talking to me and say, "If he is still wears rune and is not a pure than he IS a noob." Get it? Good, funny part is you used the verb correctly in the next part of the sentence.

 

 

 

Anyway, grammar lesson over I think you are totally right Ray. People have every right to do things their own way. I myself differ from the best ways sometimes for simple enjoyment.

 

 

 

Just understand that there is the fun way to do things, then the most efficient way. Since I'm sure we all value our time highly, we must decide if we want more fun or more punch (or sense of fulfillment) from our time spent. I personally prefer the second. Therefore I usually go for the most efficient way to slay, and when anyone asks for my help, what can I suggest other than what I personally do?

[HOSTiLE_KAi]

I would agree on point 1- sometimes the task given out is a bit lame, but it also can be good (today i got 2 190s abbys tasks one after another). It would be nice if it has like a slot/ draw system and let your 'input' determine your task, but w/e its just a thought.

 

 

 

#2 I always get called a 'noob' for using a cannon, funny thing is I'm seriously slaying. For daggnothss i can finish 180s in <26 mins, honestly would I stay there for an hour or more? heck no. There's no such way as a slayer way tbh, there's only rich or average way.

[RayOxide]

Well I gotta sorta agree with your point Hk, but using the cannon where other people are can lower your slayer xp, whether it be alot in a short time in comparison to melee anyway.

 

 

 

But I still think the cannon is ok, I just dont support the use of it; I kinda dislike the idea of it. I also find it cheap (not in cost).

[Inuashakent]

All a person can do is give advice. How you apply that is up to you, effecient or not.

[RayOxide]

Bout time Kent.

 

 

 

What I meant by my 2nd point was when they tell you that you HAVE to do it or it's the RIGHT way.

[Inuashakent]

Bout time Kent.

 

 

 

What I meant by my 2nd point was when they tell you that you HAVE to do it or it's the RIGHT way.

 

The words 'right' and 'have' diluted with time in RS forums. They usually mean the most efficient way, which in theory could be translated to 'right.' In your case, the effecient method was obvious, yet you went to use the other method. This is fine, but it definetely wasn't effecient.

[Obtaurian]

Continued from your original thread.

 

 

 

 

 

 

@Morning; mostly all the people on Tif who slay like extremists are 10-20 above my combat level.

 

 

 

I know, but it's never too early to start! :thumbup:

 

 

 

No but really, just do what's comfortable for you while trying to maintain a decent speed. I like to use 10% strength and SOMETIMES piety while slaying as fast as I possibly can, but I'm crazy and I enjoy doing this. If you can get a DECENT exp rate while maintaining your sanity, than you're doing well, in my opinion.