"N00b skillcapes" : they're also skillcapes!

[Pythonic]

Even if some capes (cooking, fletching and such) can be obtained faster then say, strength it is still a long and tedious task. Regardless of the skill the 12 million experience needed for a 99 skill is no small feat. The people who call others inferior are brats, in themselves.

[Meta318]

Even if some capes (cooking, fletching and such) can be obtained faster then say, strength it is still a long and tedious task. Regardless of the skill the 12 million experience needed for a 99 skill is no small feat. The people who call others inferior are brats, in themselves.

 

 

 

Yeah, but it's 13 million experience I believe.

[Outsanity]

Even if some capes (cooking, fletching and such) can be obtained faster then say, strength it is still a long and tedious task. Regardless of the skill the 12 million experience needed for a 99 skill is no small feat. The people who call others inferior are brats, in themselves.

 

 

 

Yeah, but it's 13 million experience I believe.

 

 

 

13,034,431 to be exact.

 

 

 

A skillcape is a skillcape, but you've got to be kidding yourself if you think all of them are equal in greatness.

[Awkward Talking Fish]

Even if some capes (cooking, fletching and such) can be obtained faster then say, strength it is still a long and tedious task. Regardless of the skill the 12 million experience needed for a 99 skill is no small feat. The people who call others inferior are brats, in themselves.

 

 

 

Yeah, but it's 13 million experience I believe.

 

 

 

13,034,431 to be exact.

 

 

 

A skillcape is a skillcape, but you've got to be kidding yourself if you think all of them are equal in greatness.

 

 

 

=D>

 

 

 

Exactly my thoughts.

[zotto]

On my quest for 99 slayer I already acquired 4 other "noob" skill capes. (maxed melee)

 

 

 

I will probably end up with ever more before I hit 99 slayer.

[Great_one]

Even if some capes (cooking, fletching and such) can be obtained faster then say, strength it is still a long and tedious task. Regardless of the skill the 12 million experience needed for a 99 skill is no small feat. The people who call others inferior are brats, in themselves.

 

 

 

Yeah, but it's 13 million experience I believe.

 

 

 

13,034,431 to be exact.

 

 

 

A skillcape is a skillcape, but you've got to be kidding yourself if you think all of them are equal in greatness.

 

 

 

=D>

 

 

 

Exactly my thoughts.

 

 

 

+1 same here. but in my opinion str is still way overrated as a skill.

[I_am_Geed]

We can all agree defence skillcape is nice, no?

[perfetc]

Theres 16 pages so I havnt read them all (I dont want to go over my data allowance, damn mobile internet) but what capes arnt nooby? If some are better than others, what cape is the doggies danglers (the best cape)? Prayer cos its takes awhile (or costs millions) to get?

 

 

 

I personally love wc and fletching and im going to get those capes some day and being a called a noob wont stop me. Im getting them capes cos I like the skills not to get a cape AKA Im not grinding away to get that cape. So why are theres thought of as nooby? Alot of people have them? there quick to get?

 

 

 

As you can probably tell im not up to date on all the cape politics ... In fact any politcs involving rs lol

[Hobgoblinpie]

Theres 16 pages so I havnt read them all (I dont want to go over my data allowance, damn mobile internet) but what capes arnt nooby? If some are better than others, what cape is the doggies danglers (the best cape)? Prayer cos its takes awhile (or costs millions) to get?

 

 

 

I personally love wc and fletching and im going to get those capes some day and being a called a noob wont stop me. Im getting them capes cos I like the skills not to get a cape AKA Im not grinding away to get that cape. So why are theres thought of as nooby? Alot of people have them? there quick to get?

 

 

 

As you can probably tell im not up to date on all the cape politics ... In fact any politcs involving rs lol

 

 

 

All capes except Fletching, cooking, thieving and firemaking. Fletching is fast and pretty useless, cooking is very fast and cheap, thieving is the same and firemaking is absolutely useless (minus the inferno adze) and cheap.

[Meta318]

Theres 16 pages so I havnt read them all (I dont want to go over my data allowance, damn mobile internet) but what capes arnt nooby? If some are better than others, what cape is the doggies danglers (the best cape)? Prayer cos its takes awhile (or costs millions) to get?

 

 

 

I personally love wc and fletching and im going to get those capes some day and being a called a noob wont stop me. Im getting them capes cos I like the skills not to get a cape AKA Im not grinding away to get that cape. So why are theres thought of as nooby? Alot of people have them? there quick to get?

 

 

 

As you can probably tell im not up to date on all the cape politics ... In fact any politcs involving rs lol

 

 

 

All capes except Fletching, cooking, thieving and firemaking. Fletching is fast and pretty useless, cooking is very fast and cheap, thieving is the same and firemaking is absolutely useless (minus the inferno adze) and cheap.

 

 

 

Yeah but you don't see nearly as many people walking around with thieving or firemaking as fletching or cooking. Prayer is pretty fast too, and combat can be cheap.

[Hobgoblinpie]

Yeah but you don't see nearly as many people walking around with thieving or firemaking as fletching or cooking. Prayer is pretty fast too, and combat can be cheap.

 

 

 

I'm not basing it on personal opinion, I'm basing it on the opinion of the masses. Prayer is going towards being nooby (although it's still pricey), because it is essentially cooking/fletching (it can be semi-afked due to fletch-x/cook-x/pray-x). Thieving isn't really the most useful skill, and the main (I'm sure a few people enjoy firemaking, but it's a mere fraction of those with 99 in it) reason for getting firemaking is that it's cheap and fast, but also utterly useless past and before 92. Thieving is similar, with 53 being the only useful level (I think it's 53, but whatever the level required for DT is, that's the one useful level).

[perfetc]

Theres 16 pages so I havnt read them all (I dont want to go over my data allowance, damn mobile internet) but what capes arnt nooby? If some are better than others, what cape is the doggies danglers (the best cape)? Prayer cos its takes awhile (or costs millions) to get?

 

 

 

I personally love wc and fletching and im going to get those capes some day and being a called a noob wont stop me. Im getting them capes cos I like the skills not to get a cape AKA Im not grinding away to get that cape. So why are theres thought of as nooby? Alot of people have them? there quick to get?

 

 

 

As you can probably tell im not up to date on all the cape politics ... In fact any politcs involving rs lol

 

 

 

All capes except Fletching, cooking, thieving and firemaking. Fletching is fast and pretty useless, cooking is very fast and cheap, thieving is the same and firemaking is absolutely useless (minus the inferno adze) and cheap.

 

 

 

Yeah but you don't see nearly as many people walking around with thieving or firemaking as fletching or cooking. Prayer is pretty fast too, and combat can be cheap.

 

 

 

Arnt all capes as useful as 1 another? besides having an extra 1 lvl in the skill cape your wearing?

 

 

 

I assume there the nooby capes, what about the most sought after cape, if prayer is thought of as nooby? Agility? Mining? Farming?

 

 

 

Combat is the quickest and cheapest, I think (ape atoll after 15 mins you dont even need anti poison, unless you get a random event) (pots would mean it cost would increase) so I think there pretty nooby.

[Agent1777]

90% of the people calling them noob skillcapes have none themselves and are jeolous.

[Maleficus1055]

i consider my 99 cooking to be a "preperation" 99. meaning that it got me ready to achieve a harder 99, getting me familiar with the grinding while being semi-afkable. now a harder 99 isnt so afkable. its harder, but ive done it before.

[Troacctid]

i consider my 99 cooking to be a "preperation" 99. meaning that it got me ready to achieve a harder 99, getting me familiar with the grinding while being semi-afkable. now a harder 99 isnt so afkable. its harder, but ive done it before.

 

That's not a very good philosophy. If you want to "prepare" for another 99, why are you wasting your time on a skill you don't care about? The best way to prepare is to train the same skill, not a completely different one. If you're going for 99 agility, the best way to practice is by going for 85 agility. Not only does that give you an actual idea of what it's like, but it also gets you closer to 99 agility! Much more logical, right?

[Saru Inc]

Ringmaster with bandos plate and legends cape sounds disgusting. Talk about no dress sense.

 

 

 

 

 

QFT!

 

 

 

And I'd have to disagree, with most of the posters. If you want a cape, but hate the skill, get the cape! Then, you never have to train the skill again if you really didn't like it. It's no worse then saving up for a bandos plate, not because you like the looks, but cause you like the stats it gives.

[Troacctid]

A skillcape is a skillcape, but you've got to be kidding yourself if you think all of them are equal in greatness.

 

They may not all be equal, but clearly none of them are n00by.

[Lielac]

A skillcape is a skillcape, but you've got to be kidding yourself if you think all of them are equal in greatness.

 

They may not all be equal, but clearly none of them are n00by.

 

^^ This.

 

 

 

Thirteen million exp? And even with the buyable skills, you still have to do the clicking, which takes enough time on its own. Firemaking skillcape = 'I am patient, people! PATIENT! Either that or crazy. But probably patient. VERY patient.'

 

 

 

Offtopic: Troacctid your username helped me in a math exam :D (the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter = pi)

[Troacctid]

A skillcape is a skillcape, but you've got to be kidding yourself if you think all of them are equal in greatness.

 

They may not all be equal, but clearly none of them are n00by.

 

^^ This.

 

 

 

Thirteen million exp? And even with the buyable skills, you still have to do the clicking, which takes enough time on its own. Firemaking skillcape = 'I am patient, people! PATIENT! Either that or crazy. But probably patient. VERY patient.'

 

 

 

Offtopic: Troacctid your username helped me in a math exam :D (the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter = pi)

 

Haha, that made my day!

 

 

 

But really, something like full dragon or a red h'ween mask takes about the same amount of time to obtain as any of the so-called "n00b" skillcapes, and nobody thinks those things are nooby. Is a santa hat nooby? Because it's easier to get than 99 cooking.

[Outsanity]

90% of the people calling them noob skillcapes have none themselves and are jeolous.

 

 

 

It's a good thing you said 90% because I've got 10, almost 11 and I know for a fact some 99s are jokes compared to others. I guess I'm part of the 10% that knows what they're talking about?

[ixfd64]

I haven't had the time to read all of the replies, but I agree with the original poster.

 

 

 

Any level 99 skill, no matter what skill, is still impressive. Cooking 50,000 sharks is no small feet.

[Troacctid]

90% of the people calling them noob skillcapes have none themselves and are jeolous.

 

 

 

It's a good thing you said 90% because I've got 10, almost 11 and I know for a fact some 99s are jokes compared to others. I guess I'm part of the 10% that knows what they're talking about?

 

Look, I think we can all agree that a summoning cape is probably more impressive than a fletching cape. But that doesn't make a fletching cape "n00by" or "a joke." It still represents ~90 hours of training, which is a lot.

[1canadian1]

People who actually get worked up with what skill is better or harder to train really need to get a hold of themselves. Like I care you spent 1000 hours training runecrafting, how has that made your life better? Oh wow, you spent 90 hours on getting 99 fletching, you must suck. Maybe, they don't have the patience, concentration, or long enough time to get a hard 99 skill.

 

 

 

Then that brings in the whole..."get a life" thing.

[Outsanity]

People who actually get worked up with what skill is better or harder to train really need to get a hold of themselves. Like I care you spent 1000 hours training runecrafting, how has that made your life better? Oh wow, you spent 90 hours on getting 99 fletching, you must suck. Maybe, they don't have the patience, concentration, or long enough time to get a hard 99 skill.

 

 

 

Then that brings in the whole..."get a life" thing.

 

 

 

And a lot of us have very busy "real lives," but have been playing runescape long enough to find time to squeeze in an hour or two of play time here and there, which add up. I'll admit, I spent a ridiculous amount of time playing rs in high school, but come on, kids, let's face it. No matter what you do in high school, no one really has a "life." You're still in high school. Once your own your own, doing what you might have trained or gone to college for, THEN you can be considered on your own and have your own life. Until then you've ultimately got the cushion of your parents and the actual time to waste on the game. And those of you who say you've got amazing social lives and go out and party every night I could just call the stereotypical frat guy who does nothing but party the first 20-some years of his life away. It's a double-edged sword here, folks.

 

 

 

That being said, I have 8 hour long rehearsals most days and once those rehearsals are up I am called in for performances, and those calls are usually 1-2 hours before. So when I'm not in the rehearsal period of my jobs, I have more time to do whatever I want. Sue me if that happens to be Runescape. It's something I enjoy and I like to achieve goals on it. I still have a social life, but I realize it's nice to have something that's "just for you," once in a while.

 

 

 

A lot of you are so quick to say "A 99 is a 99. They're all impressive!" which is only partially true. In a perfect world we could say that each cape deserves equal respect because they're all ultimately a 99. But one 99 does not equal another 99, not only in time spent to achieve it, but also in usefulness.

 

 

 

99 Runecrafting takes almost 10 times longer to train than Fletching. At the end of 99 Runecrafting, you can maximise the amount of air runes you can make (may not seem important but might be if you ever get stuck on f2p) and you'll probably walk out of it with over 300M profit. Fletching...what do you get? If you bought it (which, let's face it, we almost all do) then you probably lost cash AND now have a skill that ultimately isn't going to help you out and/or you won't use again for a long time.

 

 

 

Out of the now almost 11 99s I have, I haven't used Fletching or Cooking in almost a year or two. Especially fletching. Thieving comes in at a close third because while I barely use it, it seems to come up in quests and is quite handy at Stealing Creation. All of my other 99s are Combat based, so you pretty much use those regularly and they can be called useful.

 

 

 

Bottom line is there are two arguments going on here:

 

 

 

The people who defend "noob" (and I'm not using the word, just quoting) capes, who's only real argument is that an achievement is an achievement and people are no-lifers who have other other capes.

 

 

 

And the people who say the "noob capes" aren't special because of the fact that most you can get in just a few simple days with little concentration and minimal drive.

 

 

 

My argument is a third. You're both right and wrong. They're all achievements, yes, but some are BETTER than others. You can't say creating the cure for cancer and creating the perfect meat sauce are the same achievement. One is clearly better and/or more important and helpful. All capes take concentration and drive, just in different amounts and that is where the respect issue comes in. Sorry, but I'm not impressed if I see a guy come walking by in his untrimmed cooking cape. He's still just a below average player in my book.

 

 

 

 

Look, I think we can all agree that a summoning cape is probably more impressive than a fletching cape. But that doesn't make a fletching cape "n00by" or "a joke." It still represents ~90 hours of training, which is a lot.

 

 

 

I got mine in about half that time. Fletching does not take 90 hours or even around that time if you don't waste time.

[Troacctid]

 

Look, I think we can all agree that a summoning cape is probably more impressive than a fletching cape. But that doesn't make a fletching cape "n00by" or "a joke." It still represents ~90 hours of training, which is a lot.

 

 

 

I got mine in about half that time. Fletching does not take 90 hours or even around that time if you don't waste time.

 

Stringing yew longbows is about 150k xp/hr, no? So about 90 hours to 99.

 

 

 

If you're using a faster method, you need to add the time it takes to earn the money to pay for the extra speed. Consider that a typical 'scaper probably has an income of about 200k gp/hr, give or take.