High slash/stab/crush armour ratings migitate damage

 

High defence level has "parry" or "dodge" affects, where they hit 0 on you more often.

 

 

 

For a pure, having level 1 defence means they can achieve higher attack and strength level compared to someone else their own level.

 

They wouldn't care if they got owned, because they haven't got much armour to lose.

 

- In F2P all they'll lose is maybe a rune scimitar (compared to full rune)

 

- In P2P, a DDS, and maybe a Dragon scimitar (compared to barrows/rune armour)

 

Also, because they have a higher strength and attack level compared other people of the same level

 

- They hit more constantly, and with more damage

 

- The opponent will need to eat more, because they will know they're fighting a pure, and pures tend to do uncommonly and exceedingly high K0 damage.

 

- And since the opponent will need to eat more, they will not be attacking the pure as much. So lower defence is needed, and less food is consumed.

 

 

 

There's 2 distinct advantages of a pure with level 1 defence ^^

 

 

 

--Edit--

 

Oh it's been mentioned already above :P ignore my post

I think it's best to start by looking at the history of pures (or what i think it is :D ). There was once a group of pkers who wanted more out of the wilderness, a way to have more fun and excitement. So they invented 1def pures. With the fact that they couldn't wear any good armor or defend themselves, they could have faster more rushing battles. When 2 pures fought each other they would both hit high, not have the ability to safe because they are constantly being damaged, and be able to k.o. easily. Thus the result would be a face paced battle that, to some people, is a lot of fun.

 

 

 

But then one day somebody thought that a pure could be used to easily defeat a normal character with the thought that defense levels weren't really that effective. They also thought that since they could lower their combat level, thinking that def levels meant little, they could kill easier. The modern mislead pure is born and everything goes downhill from there. They seem to have forgotten that pures (from what i know) were once meant to fight other pures.

 

 

 

In truth def pures with high range or magic could probably beat a 1 def pure any day.

for the ownage...no1 in armor at my level can own me...no1

 

 

 

besides ppl think low def gets u k03d...uh...u can just eat...yea...too bad u can eat...LOL

 

 

 

range > def...and for those of u def noobs who think mage is unfair...thats ur problem...

 

i....honestly cannot read that. :|

 

 

 

im keepng my attack and strength at 80 whilst raising my defence to 99 because i enjoy it more and you get such good kicks out of people who have raw strength and go "Omg! Wtf is your Def Lv?!" :lol:

I think it's best to start by looking at the history of pures (or what i think it is :D ). There was once a group of pkers who wanted more out of the wilderness, a way to have more fun and excitement. So they invented 1def pures. With the fact that they couldn't wear any good armor or defend themselves, they could have faster more rushing battles. When 2 pures fought each other they would both hit high, not have the ability to safe because they are constantly being damaged, and be able to k.o. easily. Thus the result would be a face paced battle that, to some people, is a lot of fun.

 

 

 

But then one day somebody thought that a pure could be used to easily defeat a normal character with the thought that defense levels weren't really that effective. They also thought that since they could lower their combat level, thinking that def levels meant little, they could kill easier. The modern mislead pure is born and everything goes downhill from there. They seem to have forgotten that pures (from what i know) were once meant to fight other pures.

 

 

 

In truth def pures with high range or magic could probably beat a 1 def pure any day.

 

Your wrong, pures were made to kill mains, and they still do, a good pure still beats a main the same combat level most of the time.

I think it's best to start by looking at the history of pures (or what i think it is :D ). There was once a group of pkers who wanted more out of the wilderness, a way to have more fun and excitement. So they invented 1def pures. With the fact that they couldn't wear any good armor or defend themselves, they could have faster more rushing battles. When 2 pures fought each other they would both hit high, not have the ability to safe because they are constantly being damaged, and be able to k.o. easily. Thus the result would be a face paced battle that, to some people, is a lot of fun.

 

 

 

But then one day somebody thought that a pure could be used to easily defeat a normal character with the thought that defense levels weren't really that effective. They also thought that since they could lower their combat level, thinking that def levels meant little, they could kill easier. The modern mislead pure is born and everything goes downhill from there. They seem to have forgotten that pures (from what i know) were once meant to fight other pures.

 

 

 

In truth def pures with high range or magic could probably beat a 1 def pure any day.

 

Your wrong, pures were made to kill mains, and they still do, a good pure still beats a main the same combat level most of the time.

 

 

 

true that, since one's skills are balanced, a pures are in high minority at the saem combat, and since defence doesnt make a major kick in till' 60-70 (from what i've personally delt with) they have an advantage. though pit say a strength pure to a tanker, (insert rest of sentence here because i forgot :wall: )

In the best possible gear, a level 50 balanced player will easily demolish a level 50 pure. It's the fact that the pure only brings a dds or maul and one-items, whilst armour comes in many pieces (helm, legs, body, shield, neck, feet etc.) that makes the risk much more greater, therefore balanced players are reluctant to take advantage of their defence level. This is why pures 'dominate'.

In the best possible gear, a level 50 balanced player will easily demolish a level 50 pure. It's the fact that the pure only brings a dds or maul and one-items, whilst armour comes in many pieces (helm, legs, body, shield, neck, feet etc.) that makes the risk much more greater, therefore balanced players are reluctant to take advantage of their defence level. This is why pures 'dominate'.

 

Your wrong, the pure will be able to use spec weapons and ko, the main wont, at worst the pure will get away.

In the best possible gear, a level 50 balanced player will easily demolish a level 50 pure. It's the fact that the pure only brings a dds or maul and one-items, whilst armour comes in many pieces (helm, legs, body, shield, neck, feet etc.) that makes the risk much more greater, therefore balanced players are reluctant to take advantage of their defence level. This is why pures 'dominate'.

 

Your wrong, the pure will be able to use spec weapons and ko, the main wont, at worst the pure will get away.

 

 

 

I see your point, but at 1 defence almost every hit the balanced player does will make a dent in the pure. With say 40 defence on the balanced player the pure is going to hit at least a few 0's.

In F2P BH, the first thing a pure is going to do is to ask you for a "No Arm" - that way defense doesn't matter any more, and they're able to hit much higher and faster than you.

 

 

 

In high level F2P BH, noone fights unless is it a no armour fight - so whats the dif?

 

Most BH'ers in lower crater are pures, so it must be fairly effective. To those who say pures risk nothing, a pure usually has 1 prayer, and takes in a R2H. If they score a decent kill, they often won't outlast a pjer unless good hugging skills are implimented. There aren't many ppl who pk in full rune in lower level BH (I challenge you to find any) - so a pure risks more than most there.

 

 

 

The true 1 def, 1 prayer pures have distinct advantages and disadvantages over the 'average stat' player. Here are just a few of em:

 

 

 

Advantages

 

 

 

1) You can hit a lot higher than your opponant. Crucial to gain a KO.

 

2) You have more hitpoints than your opponant - crucial to avoid a KO

 

3) You have the upperhand in a variety of combat styles up to around level 80. (Mage til 40ish, range/r2h til 65ish, melee til 80ish)

 

 

 

Disadvantages

 

 

 

1) It costs more to train melee due to eating more often.

 

2) At around combat 80 you become overshadowed by rune pures who will dominate the pants off 1 def pkers.

 

3) Very limited to areas you can go, quests you can do, training locations etc by remaining 1 def, and 1 prayer.

 

 

 

1 def pures live to pk - they dont want to go soloing Bandos, DK'ing etc. They want to experience the thrill of smacking a 30 with a R2H while at combat 65 hence scaring the pants of a main!

 

 

 

Good post,but i kind of disagree with the advantages,when fighting someone with decent armor(let's not say average stats),it very lowers the chances of hitting or making a good hit,I'm a 78 Combat with 86 Ranged and 50 armor,yesterday i friendly dueled someone who was level 80 and apparently a def pure,he used his Rune 2H and Scimitar,he only hit me one time 23,then most of the times 0 or low hits,my max hit with iron arrow was 12,but yet i still managed to win,why?because armor makes for it,don't be fooled by the high stats,it really doesn't stand a chance for good armor and high levels.

Wrong. the best type of pure is a rune/fighter pure. With 90 attack, 99 strength, 90 hp and 40 defense, and 33 prayer, you would be only around level 95. With those stats, you could hit around a 43 with a whip potted/prayer, and 38*2 damage with a dds spec. Two specs ate even 20-20 damage will basically insure you win any fight, and with dds you have 4 specs.

 

A normal player, 75 attack, 80 strength, 75 defense, 60 prayer, at the same could hit only a 38 with some of the best possible gear with a whip, and only a 32*2 spec with a dds. They rune pures armor, probably rune legs, boots, gloves, maybe plate, and a fighter helm, is not much worse than the armor the other player would be wearing, unless they were wearing 20m+ of stuff. The normal player's lower 75 attack would not hit as often, but it might even out with the other's lower defense.

 

 

 

However, the pure's strength and attack would deal a lot more damage, even through good armor. The pure will also hit more consistently.

 

 

 

A pure with 1 defense, 99 strength, attack, hp, and prayer could also probably beat a normal player, but only if they weren't unlucky and hit low.

 

I was only talking about the 1 defense pures or so,not mentioning rune pures,they are extremely good actually.

 

And i don't think a pure with 1 defense,99 strength,99 attack,99 hp,and 99 prayer can still beat a normal player,because at his level,he would be on a high level,more than 110,in which a normal player would have enough defense and combat levels and good armor to absorb the damage.

I think it has to do with only loosing a weapon and cheaper armor. A balanced player has to risk way more stuff to be effective.

 

 

 

thats a great point :)

for the ownage...no1 in armor at my level can own me...no1

 

 

 

besides ppl think low def gets u k03d...uh...u can just eat...yea...too bad u can eat...LOL

 

 

 

range > def...and for those of u def noobs who think mage is unfair...thats ur problem...

 

im sorry, but defense is just as important as range, and as for your grammer, all you did was further the stereotype that all pures are ego-obsessed idiots.

 

as for your grammer, all you did was further the stereotype that all pures are ego-obsessed idiots.

 

:wall:

pures are overall more fun for pking in my opinion id much rather be a decent pker only risking 75k than risking full ahrims etc also fights seem much more interesting in high lv fights you tend to see alot of 0s but as a pure you hit almsot every time making it much more fun and fast paced

In the best possible gear, a level 50 balanced player will easily demolish a level 50 pure. It's the fact that the pure only brings a dds or maul and one-items, whilst armour comes in many pieces (helm, legs, body, shield, neck, feet etc.) that makes the risk much more greater, therefore balanced players are reluctant to take advantage of their defence level. This is why pures 'dominate'.

 

Your wrong, the pure will be able to use spec weapons and ko, the main wont, at worst the pure will get away.

 

 

 

I see your point, but at 1 defence almost every hit the balanced player does will make a dent in the pure. With say 40 defence on the balanced player the pure is going to hit at least a few 0's.

 

 

 

No, the balanced player wont make a dent at all. My pure is exactly lvl 50 with 63hp, and the usual main only hits around 11s with a rune scimitar and has around 45 hp. My 70 range dominates against their usual addy armour. I also beat people in full rune who are in the 55s. It is because of the high hp and range that most pures are able to dominate a fight. This is for f2p though, i have no idea for p2p because i have never tried.

for the ownage...no1 in armor at my level can own me...no1

 

 

 

besides ppl think low def gets u k03d...uh...u can just eat...yea...too bad u can eat...LOL

 

 

 

range > def...and for those of u def noobs who think mage is unfair...thats ur problem...

 

 

 

And to your left, students, you'll see the aptly named "Purus Ignoramus"

 

 

 

Note the frothed mouth, cheese-doodle encrusted fingers, young age (Aged close to a decade), constant sense of self satisfaction, and complete disregard for the English language. It was believed that the earliest translators of our Germanic language turn in their graves every time the Purus Ignoramus speaks. Granted, whether or not there is any truth to this likely theory, is yet to be seen.

 

 

 

Does anyone know the best method of defense against the Purus Ignoramus? Anyone? Nobody? Yes, Beatrice. The best defense is to simply use a three syllable word, wait for the confusion and fear to settle in, and continue on your way. Another method is to spell "you" correctly.

for the ownage...no1 in armor at my level can own me...no1

 

 

 

besides ppl think low def gets u k03d...uh...u can just eat...yea...too bad u can eat...LOL

 

 

 

range > def...and for those of u def noobs who think mage is unfair...thats ur problem...

 

 

 

And to your left, students, you'll see the aptly named "Purus Ignoramus"

 

 

 

Note the frothed mouth, cheese-doodle encrusted fingers, young age (Aged close to a decade), constant sense of self satisfaction, and complete disregard for the English language. It was believed that the earliest translators of our Germanic language turn in their graves every time the Purus Ignoramus speaks. Granted, whether or not there is any truth to this likely theory, is yet to be seen.

 

 

 

Does anyone know the best method of defense against the Purus Ignoramus? Anyone? Nobody? Yes, Beatrice. The best defense is to simply use a three syllable word, wait for the confusion and fear to settle in, and continue on your way. Another method is to spell "you" correctly.

 

Horrors of all horrors. Someone didn't spell everything perfectly and used abbreviations. Your post makes more of an impression on me than the pure's post, it makes me think you're a smug jerk, who thinks he's better than other people based on grammar and spelling.

Pures are there to provide easy fodder for whenever I feel like using my Dark Bow. I almost invariably hit 60+ on them with the spec at 82 range.

forgive me if im wrong...but noone has yet said anything bout tanking pvp.... i used to have 70 atk str and about 75 hp with 80 def and 60 pray, it is not a great difference but i would pk by hitting accasionaly on medium hits, but hardl ever being hit because i would wear high level armour and pray chivalry and protect from mele/range/mage

for the ownage...no1 in armor at my level can own me...no1

 

 

 

besides ppl think low def gets u k03d...uh...u can just eat...yea...too bad u can eat...LOL

 

 

 

range > def...and for those of u def noobs who think mage is unfair...thats ur problem...

 

 

 

And to your left, students, you'll see the aptly named "Purus Ignoramus"

 

 

 

Note the frothed mouth, cheese-doodle encrusted fingers, young age (Aged close to a decade), constant sense of self satisfaction, and complete disregard for the English language. It was believed that the earliest translators of our Germanic language turn in their graves every time the Purus Ignoramus speaks. Granted, whether or not there is any truth to this likely theory, is yet to be seen.

 

 

 

Does anyone know the best method of defense against the Purus Ignoramus? Anyone? Nobody? Yes, Beatrice. The best defense is to simply use a three syllable word, wait for the confusion and fear to settle in, and continue on your way. Another method is to spell "you" correctly.

 

Horrors of all horrors. Someone didn't spell everything perfectly and used abbreviations. Your post makes more of an impression on me than the pure's post, it makes me think you're a smug jerk, who thinks he's better than other people based on grammar and spelling.

 

 

 

Now now student, raise your hand when asking a question.

 

 

 

You do bring up a good inquiry to the matter. Pures are known for being stupid, all things considered they have a brazen lack of logic (Call people who train [insert skill here] noobs, and then turn around and cry when an update comes out that they can't use because they didn't train said skill), arrogance with no base (Says "I own u noob" when pures are about as easy to slaughter as goblins in Lumbridge), and hilarious hypocrisy (See: Safing, running, teleporting, one iteming), explosive personality ("OMG I GOT 2 DEFENSE? RUINED ACCOUNT, [bLEEP] YOU [bleep]EX YOU COMMUNIST NAZI [bleep]!"), are easily destroyed (It only takes two minutes to ruin a pure's account. Give him a bone spear, only trains defense), quit twenty times an update (What? JAGEX FIXED A PIXEL ON THE DDS THAT WAS LIME GREEN INSTEAD OF FOREST GREEN? [bLEEP]ING COMMUNISTS, THEY HATE US! RIOT IN FALADOR, RIOT IN [bLEEP]ING FALADOR!!!!"). Poor spelling is just the tip of an illiteracy iceberg that blocks all incoming information (Such as facts, differing opinions, logic, etc)

 

 

 

Oh and...smug jerk? You could've at least borrowed from my signature (updated)

for the ownage...no1 in armor at my level can own me...no1

 

 

 

besides ppl think low def gets u k03d...uh...u can just eat...yea...too bad u can eat...LOL

 

 

 

range > def...and for those of u def noobs who think mage is unfair...thats ur problem...

 

 

 

This guy actually does have a good point. In many cases, ranged is greater than defence. Why? Because ranged accuracy and power are grouped into one skill. Therefore, a ranger with 90 ranged has the stats equal to 90 attack and strength. This high accuracy and power is what leads him to say range owns.

Maybe someone got bored and decided to mess around their combat levels a bit.

I have a pure with 1 defence and with a three-letter name (:P) 40 attack, 47 strength, 42 HP, 28 prayer, 34 magic and 27 ranged. And 42 combat. The only problem is that 90% of drops are something like three salmons and mage ammy... My best so far: Addy berserker shield -.- omg 13K!

 

as for your grammer, all you did was further the stereotype that all pures are ego-obsessed idiots.

 

:wall:

 

Its a typo....it happens to everyone.

Although this is off topic. I know it probably took me about twice as long to read this thread to this point just to have to sift through all the bull [cabbage].

 

 

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

Edit: I forgot this was in rants. Suppose it could have been in General Discussion? Still, half the thread putting down someone else is still not on subject.

All pures are different.

 

 

 

However 1 def pure's popularity has crashed. Most 1 def pures staked. They could kill their enemies without getting hit themselves. At low levels, def really has no use. Pures can easily kill a "balance" player.