I keep seeing a guy on forums that keeps asking questions about ways of getting around not having any defence. Like asking what quests he can do without getting defence up. What is the point of this? Please make this clear for me!! Thanks!! :D

it's called a pure o_o low def means lower combat with the same att/str lvl as someone who has like 70 def

There is no point. Having no defense is not good for anything anymore, the era of the pure is essentially over. Pures used to be decent for pking, but not so much now.

Good point Moad, thats exactly what i was thinking. Glad someone agrees with me. :thumbsup:

Because they are rather stupid, and "abuse" the combat system.

Because they are rather stupid, and "abuse" the combat system.

 

 

 

I don't think they abuse it as such, maybe min-maxing but not much else.

they feel that if they have lower defence, and thusly higher attack and strength, they will be able to kill other players of their same combat level easier.

i wouldnt rant, if people dont want any defense, let them have it their way. It only makes it eaisier for us to kill them.

they feel that if they have lower defence, and thusly higher attack and strength, they will be able to kill other players of their same combat level easier.

 

Usually they are. Unless the other player uses their advantages as well.

 

An armored balanced player vs. A pure of the same level might be interesting to watch, depending on the level

 

 

 

Hell, I almost have a similar reason for keeping strength lower than other stats; I can play the game just as well without it being high.

Just like someone with high strength exploits their advantage; someone with higher defence should also exploit their advantage. Wear better armor and refuse to skull, youre practiacally risking as much as them, you lose one item out of your set. decent rune pures can generally own 1 def pures with 60 attack or so. Someone in full torags that doesnt skull can take out a rune pure. Average str allows you to dagger spec 25-25 which is enough to ko.

Several years ago, a player with low defence\high attack and strength (otherwise known as a "pure") had an advantage in KOing ability due to a lack of high level armor\weapons. Ever since barrows armor etc. came out, a balanced player is much better, but word hasn't reached the pure community yet. Hence why some players still have low defence.

I think it has to do with only loosing a weapon and cheaper armor. A balanced player has to risk way more stuff to be effective.

There is no point. Having no defense is not good for anything anymore, the era of the pure is essentially over. Pures used to be decent for pking, but not so much now.

 

Your right a pure wouldnt last long on PVP servers while they used to be able to hit hard they also get hit hard and on old wildy you only met pkers every so often but now you see them everywhere.

Pures annoyed me till around 60 combat, now there played by idiots who worship salmons so thier pretty easy to kill :lol: .

It's more "ownage" to see a level 80 KO a level 100. I've never been a fan of pures though. The only pure I had was a F2P magic pure and I didn't keep him long.

1 def pures are still rather good in F2P, in the lower levels (in the low level BH crater and until people can have a berserker shield w/ decent strength, respectively). Otherwise, pointless.

because they think they are cool being a level 41 with a d2h #-o

 

 

 

defense is pretty much pointless nowadays anyway. Only reason to train it is to get better armor.

for the ownage...no1 in armor at my level can own me...no1

 

 

 

besides ppl think low def gets u k03d...uh...u can just eat...yea...too bad u can eat...LOL

 

 

 

range > def...and for those of u def noobs who think mage is unfair...thats ur problem...

for the ownage...no1 in armor at my level can own me...no1

 

 

 

besides ppl think low def gets u k03d...uh...u can just eat...yea...too bad u can eat...LOL

 

 

 

range > def...and for those of u def noobs who think mage is unfair...thats ur problem...

 

 

 

Learn to spell, jackass. This is a forum, you've got all the time in the world to post something.

 

 

 

Sorry about being a grammar nazi, it's really just one of those little things that get on my nerves.

 

 

 

Anyways, it's called a pure. They were created out of cow feces by Zamorak to "wtf#@#$@0wn" everyone.

In F2P BH, the first thing a pure is going to do is to ask you for a "No Arm" - that way defense doesn't matter any more, and they're able to hit much higher and faster than you.

In F2P BH, the first thing a pure is going to do is to ask you for a "No Arm" - that way defense doesn't matter any more, and they're able to hit much higher and faster than you.

 

 

 

In high level F2P BH, noone fights unless is it a no armour fight - so whats the dif?

 

Most BH'ers in lower crater are pures, so it must be fairly effective. To those who say pures risk nothing, a pure usually has 1 prayer, and takes in a R2H. If they score a decent kill, they often won't outlast a pjer unless good hugging skills are implimented. There aren't many ppl who pk in full rune in lower level BH (I challenge you to find any) - so a pure risks more than most there.

 

 

 

The true 1 def, 1 prayer pures have distinct advantages and disadvantages over the 'average stat' player. Here are just a few of em:

 

 

 

Advantages

 

 

 

1) You can hit a lot higher than your opponant. Crucial to gain a KO.

 

2) You have more hitpoints than your opponant - crucial to avoid a KO

 

3) You have the upperhand in a variety of combat styles up to around level 80. (Mage til 40ish, range/r2h til 65ish, melee til 80ish)

 

 

 

Disadvantages

 

 

 

1) It costs more to train melee due to eating more often.

 

2) At around combat 80 you become overshadowed by rune pures who will dominate the pants off 1 def pkers.

 

3) Very limited to areas you can go, quests you can do, training locations etc by remaining 1 def, and 1 prayer.

 

 

 

1 def pures live to pk - they dont want to go soloing Bandos, DK'ing etc. They want to experience the thrill of smacking a 30 with a R2H while at combat 65 hence scaring the pants of a main!

i WAS a pure and now have a range pure account so ill try to make it clear. low defence = low combat 1 defence is even better must pures are lvl 65+ with 1 defence there stats are normaly somthing like 90mage 88range 85 strength 60 att 43/1pray 1 defence, proberly level 60 combat somone with defence and these stats would be about 100cb+, kinda hard to explain

Pures. It was very useful for pking but now its hardly useful at all. :/

In F2P BH, the first thing a pure is going to do is to ask you for a "No Arm" - that way defense doesn't matter any more, and they're able to hit much higher and faster than you.

 

 

 

In high level F2P BH, noone fights unless is it a no armour fight - so whats the dif?

 

Most BH'ers in lower crater are pures, so it must be fairly effective. To those who say pures risk nothing, a pure usually has 1 prayer, and takes in a R2H. If they score a decent kill, they often won't outlast a pjer unless good hugging skills are implimented. There aren't many ppl who pk in full rune in lower level BH (I challenge you to find any) - so a pure risks more than most there.

 

 

 

The true 1 def, 1 prayer pures have distinct advantages and disadvantages over the 'average stat' player. Here are just a few of em:

 

 

 

Advantages

 

 

 

1) You can hit a lot higher than your opponant. Crucial to gain a KO.

 

2) You have more hitpoints than your opponant - crucial to avoid a KO

 

3) You have the upperhand in a variety of combat styles up to around level 80. (Mage til 40ish, range/r2h til 65ish, melee til 80ish)

 

 

 

Disadvantages

 

 

 

1) It costs more to train melee due to eating more often.

 

2) At around combat 80 you become overshadowed by rune pures who will dominate the pants off 1 def pkers.

 

3) Very limited to areas you can go, quests you can do, training locations etc by remaining 1 def, and 1 prayer.

 

 

 

1 def pures live to pk - they dont want to go soloing Bandos, DK'ing etc. They want to experience the thrill of smacking a 30 with a R2H while at combat 65 hence scaring the pants of a main!

 

 

 

Good post,but i kind of disagree with the advantages,when fighting someone with decent armor(let's not say average stats),it very lowers the chances of hitting or making a good hit,I'm a 78 Combat with 86 Ranged and 50 armor,yesterday i friendly dueled someone who was level 80 and apparently a def pure,he used his Rune 2H and Scimitar,he only hit me one time 23,then most of the times 0 or low hits,my max hit with iron arrow was 12,but yet i still managed to win,why?because armor makes for it,don't be fooled by the high stats,it really doesn't stand a chance for good armor and high levels.

In F2P BH, the first thing a pure is going to do is to ask you for a "No Arm" - that way defense doesn't matter any more, and they're able to hit much higher and faster than you.

 

 

 

In high level F2P BH, noone fights unless is it a no armour fight - so whats the dif?

 

Most BH'ers in lower crater are pures, so it must be fairly effective. To those who say pures risk nothing, a pure usually has 1 prayer, and takes in a R2H. If they score a decent kill, they often won't outlast a pjer unless good hugging skills are implimented. There aren't many ppl who pk in full rune in lower level BH (I challenge you to find any) - so a pure risks more than most there.

 

 

 

The true 1 def, 1 prayer pures have distinct advantages and disadvantages over the 'average stat' player. Here are just a few of em:

 

 

 

Advantages

 

 

 

1) You can hit a lot higher than your opponant. Crucial to gain a KO.

 

2) You have more hitpoints than your opponant - crucial to avoid a KO

 

3) You have the upperhand in a variety of combat styles up to around level 80. (Mage til 40ish, range/r2h til 65ish, melee til 80ish)

 

 

 

Disadvantages

 

 

 

1) It costs more to train melee due to eating more often.

 

2) At around combat 80 you become overshadowed by rune pures who will dominate the pants off 1 def pkers.

 

3) Very limited to areas you can go, quests you can do, training locations etc by remaining 1 def, and 1 prayer.

 

 

 

1 def pures live to pk - they dont want to go soloing Bandos, DK'ing etc. They want to experience the thrill of smacking a 30 with a R2H while at combat 65 hence scaring the pants of a main!

 

 

 

Good post,but i kind of disagree with the advantages,when fighting someone with decent armor(let's not say average stats),it very lowers the chances of hitting or making a good hit,I'm a 78 Combat with 86 Ranged and 50 armor,yesterday i friendly dueled someone who was level 80 and apparently a def pure,he used his Rune 2H and Scimitar,he only hit me one time 23,then most of the times 0 or low hits,my max hit with iron arrow was 12,but yet i still managed to win,why?because armor makes for it,don't be fooled by the high stats,it really doesn't stand a chance for good armor and high levels.

Wrong. the best type of pure is a rune/fighter pure. With 90 attack, 99 strength, 90 hp and 40 defense, and 33 prayer, you would be only around level 95. With those stats, you could hit around a 43 with a whip potted/prayer, and 38*2 damage with a dds spec. Two specs ate even 20-20 damage will basically insure you win any fight, and with dds you have 4 specs.

 

A normal player, 75 attack, 80 strength, 75 defense, 60 prayer, at the same could hit only a 38 with some of the best possible gear with a whip, and only a 32*2 spec with a dds. They rune pures armor, probably rune legs, boots, gloves, maybe plate, and a fighter helm, is not much worse than the armor the other player would be wearing, unless they were wearing 20m+ of stuff. The normal player's lower 75 attack would not hit as often, but it might even out with the other's lower defense.

 

 

 

However, the pure's strength and attack would deal a lot more damage, even through good armor. The pure will also hit more consistently.

 

 

 

A pure with 1 defense, 99 strength, attack, hp, and prayer could also probably beat a normal player, but only if they weren't unlucky and hit low.