Rageman192 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 WARNING!!! May contain spoilers!!! During the battle with the Balance Elemental,it says some interesting things.It talks like it knows the playe from the past,as can been seen here: The Elemental appears Balance Elemental (BE): By order of the Governance of Guthix, what rights do you have here? Player: What? BE: Perhaps some violence will make you understand? Battle starts BE: Do you know what, (Player's name)? I've really missed you. It's been such a long time, and your funeral was just such a lovely event. BE: And what was it you used to say to me? Oh, I remember it well, since it was like yesterday. Ah, well, I guess you know better than anyone that the good die young! Player: What do you...? BE: Oh well, back to the battle...I'm enjoying it, are you? Battle continues BE: The bloom of youth only lasts so long. What can any of us aspire to but a glorious death, and yours was glorious. BE: Oh, and the other days someone else was talking about how much they missed you. How you used to light the place up with your laughter, but it's all gone now. But you know that better than any of us! Player: You don't make any sense at all! BE: But of course, it's always nice to talk, though, and 'manners maketh the man', is what you always told me. When the Elemental is defeated: BE: "And to protect the Stone until such a time as, near to death, whereby you are relieved of all duties and shall henceforth be returned to your home plane with the gratitude and blessings of Guthix." (credit to The Runescape Wiki fo the dialogue) The BE also talks like the player has died in some point, and as it is some kind of guardian of Guthix, I dont think it talks just random nonsense to distract the player. I think theres more behind its phrases. So I would like to hear your thoughts about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddeX Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Mmm..perhaps next part of Making/Meeting History ?? became a guardian of guthix in the past, die and return to the present? :o many possiblities =O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Parallel planes? Seems possible. Perhaps you died on a different plan when the events in WGS turned out differently? If the Balance Elemental is from this plane, as hinted in its dying dialogue, this would make sense. Also playing off this, if the Balance Elemental is Guthix's servant from a parallel plane, what does that make the Chaos Elemental? ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mervinator_9 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 That is bizarre, I cant remember anything from that fight when I did it, I was too busy concentrating on switching my prayers. Tbh I thought it was just random nonsense like Melzar. Maybe more will revealed in WGS 2 or what ever quest follows it, but I wouldn't be surprised if it just gets forgotten and left. Theres a fine line between not listening and not caring,I like to think I walk this line every day. Pinning blame on Jagex is like trying to put pants on an old man. You both know he needs them, but he'll just keep dancing around, avoiding them at all costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Adam Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Parallel planes? Seems possible. Perhaps you died on a different plan when the events in WGS turned out differently? If the Balance Elemental is from this plane, as hinted in its dying dialogue, this would make sense. Also playing off this, if the Balance Elemental is Guthix's servant from a parallel plane, what does that make the Chaos Elemental? The Dragonkin mention that to every balance there's a counterbalance, what if the Chaos elemental is guarding the entrance to the Dragonkin? Isn't he near the castle that has the D'kin emblem? (Put aside that chaos = Zamorak) What if Zaros is this counterbalance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Parallel planes? Seems possible. Perhaps you died on a different plan when the events in WGS turned out differently? If the Balance Elemental is from this plane, as hinted in its dying dialogue, this would make sense. Also playing off this, if the Balance Elemental is Guthix's servant from a parallel plane, what does that make the Chaos Elemental? The Dragonkin mention that to every balance there's a counterbalance, what if the Chaos elemental is guarding the entrance to the Dragonkin? Isn't he near the castle that has the D'kin emblem? (Put aside that chaos = Zamorak) What if Zaros is this counterbalance? I don't think Zaros really plays an important role in RS aside from the initiation of the God Wars. Of course, I could be wrong, but Zaros would be a "balance" of sorts compared to Guthix, wouldn't it? ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterknowitall Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 This is how it will go: 1. Lucien becomes a God. 2. New God Wars break out. 3. Guthix awakens and threatens to destroy Gielinor. 4. Zaros suddenly breaks out of the body of Bob (Alien-style). 5. Zaros and Guthix start an epic fight and eventually they both die. 6. The God Wars continue. 7. Gielinor gets destroyed. 8. Mechscape is released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppet Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Perhaps you are guthix but his memory is sleeping. :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkduellord Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 stupid i didnt see this sooner o.0 post it in dragonkon topic i'd say Tip.it's 2nd unoffical Go player sm3x; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00hydro Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 'manners maketh the man', is what you always told me. Well I guess we'll know when we say that in some quest ... anyone remember our avatar ever saying that? This is how it will go: 1. Lucien becomes a God. 2. New God Wars break out. 3. Guthix awakens and threatens to destroy Gielinor. 4. Zaros suddenly breaks out of the body of Bob (Alien-style). 5. Zaros and Guthix start an epic fight and eventually they both die. 6. The God Wars continue. 7. Gielinor gets destroyed. 8. Mechscape is released. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkjab Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 'manners maketh the man', is what you always told me. Well I guess we'll know when we say that in some quest ... anyone remember our avatar ever saying that? Lol I'm pretty sure that has been said before in a quest. I always thought the banter from the Balance Elemental was quotes and memories from the people that Lucien killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nameles Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Maybe that was prediction, maybe player will die in wgs 2 or something.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppet Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Perhaps the BE-ING is saying Lucien is going to KILL US. Aww you stole it :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Perhaps the BE-ING is saying Lu***n is going to KILL US. Aww you stole it :( So what happens when He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named kills us? Do we respawn, or is it game over? SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterknowitall Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Perhaps the BE-ING is saying Lu***n is going to KILL US. Aww you stole it :( So what happens when He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named kills us? Do we respawn, or is it game over? Guthix will kill us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppet Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 No we will come back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I would go with the "guardian of guthix in a previous life" theory....that seems to make the most sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilo Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Parallel planes? Seems possible. Perhaps you died on a different plan when the events in WGS turned out differently? If the Balance Elemental is from this plane, as hinted in its dying dialogue, this would make sense. Also playing off this, if the Balance Elemental is Guthix's servant from a parallel plane, what does that make the Chaos Elemental? The Dragonkin mention that to every balance there's a counterbalance, what if the Chaos elemental is guarding the entrance to the Dragonkin? Isn't he near the castle that has the D'kin emblem? (Put aside that chaos = Zamorak) What if Zaros is this counterbalance? I don't think Zaros really plays an important role in RS aside from the initiation of the God Wars. Of course, I could be wrong, but Zaros would be a "balance" of sorts compared to Guthix, wouldn't it? If the other balance was removed that means that Chaos has no opposite at the moment. Unless we became the guardian of Jas by killing the Balance elemental. Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Oscar Wilde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erichermit Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I too am greatly interested in that dialogue. I think it's either a past life as someone mentioned. Someone mentioned that you could be guthix, but your god part could be sleeping. I think that would be fascinating, haha. Or perhaps the guthix elemental knew your character in the future, but got sent back to kill you? Or maybe you knew the guthix elemental in the past, before we started "playing" him. It's important to consider that our character just appears. If we take the new (but currently disabled) tutorial thing as canon, it's worth noting that your character appears in a cellar with no idea how he got there and no memories but his name. This could postulate all kinds of theories of your character's past. If we take the tutorial island as canon, it's worth noting your character just appears as if from some other dimension. Do you hate Wyverns or Warped Terrorbirds? Think again! Misunderstood Monsters!Want to become a Champion of Champions like I once was? Champion Scroll Guide!Feeling Bored? List of Sidequests Rare Drops: Dragon Sq Half : 1, Dragon Med : 2, Dragon Claws : 2, Dragon Legs : 1, Dragon Boots : 60+, Granite Legs: 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Parallel planes? Seems possible. Perhaps you died on a different plan when the events in WGS turned out differently? If the Balance Elemental is from this plane, as hinted in its dying dialogue, this would make sense. Also playing off this, if the Balance Elemental is Guthix's servant from a parallel plane, what does that make the Chaos Elemental? The Dragonkin mention that to every balance there's a counterbalance, what if the Chaos elemental is guarding the entrance to the Dragonkin? Isn't he near the castle that has the D'kin emblem? (Put aside that chaos = Zamorak) What if Zaros is this counterbalance? I don't think Zaros really plays an important role in RS aside from the initiation of the God Wars. Of course, I could be wrong, but Zaros would be a "balance" of sorts compared to Guthix, wouldn't it? If the other balance was removed that means that Chaos has no opposite at the moment. Unless we became the guardian of Jas by killing the Balance elemental. But the Elemental didn't die, he was simply weakened enough to be relieved of its duties: "And to protect the Stone until such a time as, near to death, whereby you are relieved of all duties and shall henceforth be returned to your home plane with the gratitude and blessings of Guthix." So the Elemental was brought my Guthix from the Alternate Gielinor to protect the stone of Jas. However, it was so weakened by combat and so "near to death" that the Elemental was relieved of its duty as protector and was able to return to its home plane, this Alternate Gielinor. This would leave the Chaos Elemental in this plane, and the Balance Elemental in its plane, perhaps regaining its strength (after all in the other plane you are dead, so who was there to weaken it?). ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danqazmlp Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Ever thought it may not be from a parralel plane, but the future instead? It says it knew you, and you had died, maybe even you created it (or will do in WGS2?) maybe you will fake your own death but the elemental will not know it, and then be sent to the past by guthix to meet you in the first one. Want to be my friend? Look under my name to the left<<< and click the 'Add as friend' button!Big thanks to Stevepole for the signature!^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I too am greatly interested in that dialogue. I think it's either a past life as someone mentioned. Someone mentioned that you could be guthix, but your god part could be sleeping. I think that would be fascinating, haha. Or perhaps the guthix elemental knew your character in the future, but got sent back to kill you? Or maybe you knew the guthix elemental in the past, before we started "playing" him. It's important to consider that our character just appears. If we take the new (but currently disabled) tutorial thing as canon, it's worth noting that your character appears in a cellar with no idea how he got there and no memories but his name. This could postulate all kinds of theories of your character's past. If we take the tutorial island as canon, it's worth noting your character just appears as if from some other dimension. In a quest (I don't remember which >.<) your character says something along the lines of "Like my mum always said..." Link to Forum Games signature.[hide=TIFer Quotes]This lack of discussion value..disturbs me.English is the only language on this forum.If you use another language, you need to include a traductionbgok5jn dsgtalgOh wow, I hate everything -.-Death kinda scares me.your obsession with phallic objects shows quite clearly in your artworks.Ffs, someone put this in their sig.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 The way I see it is that the Balance Elemental is like the Chaos elemental. The chaos elemental tells us about the future, so the balance elemental might be telling us about what already happened. Ok... Im not that good. But I have an anchor!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J35u5_M4 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 This is how it will go: 1. Lucien becomes a God. 2. New God Wars break out. 3. Guthix awakens and threatens to destroy Gielinor. 4. Zaros suddenly breaks out of the body of Bob (Alien-style). 5. Zaros and Guthix start an epic fight and eventually they both die. 6. The God Wars continue. 7. Gielinor gets destroyed. 8. Mechscape is released. I lol'd at 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitman76 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I didn't read everyones replies to this post, but i did read the post itself. First thing i remembered when reading this, was a suggestion i found in the Bugs/Suggestions forum a couple weeks/months ago. It was a suggestion to a sequel for WGS, and it suggested that YOU ARE guthix. I forget the authors name, but it was a very clever twist to the story, and this seems to kind of lean in that direction. Imagine that, you/me being guthix...the god of balance...think about it...it sounds plausible... myth busters ftw :mrgreen: [Thank you very much Skull_Emblem For the Beutiful Sig And Jopie for doing the Text] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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