The Great Ring Of Wealth Experiment(Method updated[Step3&4])

[K112]

Ok, so this threas died, then came back to life. (Yay?)

 

I've left my methodology below if anyone is willing to find the amount of recruits needed for this, but currently, I am not going to oversee the challenge.

 

 

 

However:

 

http://www.rsdrop.com/index.php This site, once its out for a while should provide a good idea of what items and higher percentages are given when the row is used. Maybe edit your first post and include the website.

 

^^

 

What he said.

 

Use it, check it.

 

 

 

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Ever wanted to be part of something big?

 

Ever wanted to crack one of the great mysteries of Runescape?

 

Ever wanted to contribute to the Runescape Community?

 

 

 

Well then, ask yourself this one "simple" question:

 

 

 

Does the Ring Of Wealth Work? :ohnoes:

 

 

 

 

 

For many years, players have debated it's authenticity, some saying its a load of rubbish, and others swearing by it.

 

My plan is to expose the truth once and for all, putting the fabled object in it's rightful place.

 

My investigation will be thoroughly scientific :ugeek:

 

This will make it useful to the everyday player and will also give me a reliable conclusion, to a certain degree of accuracy.

 

 

 

If you would like to know the details of my investigation click below;

 

[hide=Scientific explanation]Because this will take a large amount of processing, It is nessecary for large groups of people to take part.

 

This gives me a large salmple to deal with.

 

It also gives me a wide variety of monesters and drops to deal with.

 

Lots of people = Large Salmple

 

Large salmple = Better results[/hide]

 

[hide=Easy explanation]I have leet haxor skillz[/hide]

 

Essentially, the more people I have to take part, the better it is.

 

 

 

So, what do you have to do?

 

It's rather simple really, and it takes minimal effort on your behalf.

 

 

 

Step 1 Get a ring of wealth. OR; don't get a ring of wealth, depending on what you plan to do.

 

 

 

Step 2 Go hunting a monster and keep a tally of your first 100 kills, you can do this on a piece of paper with a pencil, or if your feeling really adventurous, write it in blood.

 

 

 

Step 3 Method:

 

DO NOT INCLUE ANY DROPS DEEMED TO BE "100% DROPS"

 

I advise to kill on a lop population world - this allows you to enter your data in between kills, reducing the chance of an error.

 

 

 

Step 4 Fill out this form:

 

(All monsters to be killed in sets of 100)

 

Monster Killed:

 

Ring of wealth used or not:

 

 

 

Then, make a hide tab:

 

[hide=][/hide]

 

And record your 100 drops.

 

 

 

Then, please tally those drops up into an ordered system by stating "TOTAL"

 

 

 

eg.

 

20 Oak planks+blue charm

 

...

 

...

 

...

 

Total drops: 810 oak planks, 45 blue charms ect......

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Step 5

 

Relax, leave the rest to me.

 

 

 

 

 

I highly suggest doing something like Spiritual Mages, as in the God Wars Dungeon, there is a handy kill count to keep track of your kills.

 

A special note on Aviansies (and other monsters of this manner) - Please kill all of the same level Avianseies while testing, this is annoying as some people may take your spot, but it keeps the investigation fair.

 

 

 

 

 

RULES

 

:arrow: You can kill ANY monster you like, just make sure it's 100 of them.

 

:arrow: Don't interrupt your killing streak by killing something else. Eg, Killing a Saradomin Knight whilst killing Saradomin Spiritual mages. (This will also include soloing boss monsters, unless you can stay there for 100 kills)

 

:arrow: Don't fake results

 

:arrow: Don't include team killings

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

GOOD LUCK!

 

P.S. If i have missed a trick anywhere, or there is a similar investigation happening, please let me know!

 

 

 

 

 

On a side note:

 

 

 

The only official insight into the ring:

 

[hide=The Official Statement]If thou consider the possessions of an enemy to be like a roulette wheel, then the 'rare' items so coveted by players are located on a second roulette wheel, that will only be spun shouldst thou roll a specific number on the first wheel.

 

The ring of wealth affects not the number which thou may achieve upon the first wheel, but should thou gain the precise number to allow thee access to the second, the ring will make thy chances of gaining an object on that second roulette wheel all the greater.

 

My analogy is flawed, for death is not like roulette, but I hope that thou see the truth within this.[/hide]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For good faith:

 

(All monsters to be killed in sets of 100)

 

Monster Killed: Avinasies-Level 83

 

Ring of wealth used or not: RoW USED

 

 

 

[hide=Drops (with)]1. 4 addy bars

 

2. 30 Water runes

 

3. Grimy Harrelander

 

4. 15 Airs

 

5. Silver Ore

 

6. 4 addy bars

 

7. Rune Dagger p+

 

8. 11 Blood Runes

 

9. 9 Nature Runes

 

10. Nothing

 

11. 2 Laws

 

12. 12 Body Runes

 

13. 4 addy bars

 

14. 30 Water runes

 

15. 4 addy bars

 

16. 4 addy bars

 

17. grimy tarromin

 

18. grimy tarromin

 

19. Silver ore

 

20. 5x antipoison

 

21. Silver ore

 

22. Silver ore

 

23. Rune dagger p+

 

24. Grimy Marrentil

 

25. 30 water runes

 

26. 4 addy bars

 

27. 4 addy bars

 

28. 5x antipoison

 

29. 4 addy bars

 

30. 4 addy bars

 

31. 11 blood runes

 

32. Grimy Kwuarm

 

33. 2 Law Runes

 

34. 30 water runes

 

35. 9 nature runes

 

36. 4 addy bars

 

37. 15 air runes

 

38. 15 air runes

 

39. 3 chaos runes

 

40. 15 air runes

 

41. Uncut sapphire

 

42. 5x swordfish

 

43. 4 addy bars

 

44. rune dagger p+

 

45. silver ore

 

46. Grimy Tarromin

 

47. Silver ore

 

48. 4 addy bars

 

49. 15 air runes

 

50. 4 addy bars

 

51. 2 law runes

 

52. silver ore

 

53. 5x antipoison

 

54. Grimy harrelander

 

55. Nothing

 

56. grimy marrentil

 

57. 2 law runes

 

58. 15 air runes

 

59. 4 addy bars

 

60. 4 addy bars

 

61. 5 mind runes

 

62. 30 water runes

 

63. 4 addy bars

 

64. 4 addy bars

 

65. 30 water runes

 

66. rune dagger p+

 

67. rune dagger p+

 

68. grimy tarromin

 

69. 15 air runes

 

70. 5x antipoison

 

71. nothing

 

72. 4 addy bars

 

73. silver ore

 

74. 30 water runes

 

75. 5x antipoison

 

76. 30 water runes

 

77. rune dagger p+

 

78. nothing

 

79. 3 chaos runes

 

80. 30 water runes

 

81. rune dagger p+

 

82. 15 air runes

 

83. 15 air runes

 

84. 4 addy bars

 

85. 15 air runes

 

86. grimy guam

 

87. 15 air rune

 

88. grimy harrelander

 

89. 30 water runes

 

90. 4 addy bars

 

91. 5x antipoison

 

92. 15 air runes

 

93. silver ore

 

94. 15 air runes

 

95. uncut sapphire

 

96. grimy guam

 

97. rune dagger p+

 

98. silver ore

 

99. grimy marrentil

 

100. 5 mind runes

 

 

 

TOTAL:

 

20 drops of addy bars

 

2 drops of mind runes

 

8 rune daggers p+

 

13 air rune drops

 

10 water rune drops

 

4 law rune drops

 

10 silver ore drops

 

6 antipoison drops

 

2 naure rune drops

 

3 chaos rune drops

 

1 body rune drop

 

2 blood rune drops.

 

1 high herb drop (kwuarm)

 

18 low herb drops (below kwuarm)[/hide]

[Draconic]

I'll totally help!

 

 

 

I'll start with Tormented Wraiths, as that's what I'm killing right now and they aren't exactly Runescape's most commonly killed monster. They also don't have any "don't pick up" drops (unless you count the lesser herbs). I'll do 100 with and 100 without.

 

 

 

[hide=Without]1. 3 addy bars+Blue Charm

 

2. Black PLatebody+Blue Charm

 

3. 80 Oak PLanks

 

4. Black Chainbody+Gold Charm

 

5. 50 Iron Ore+Gold Charm

 

6. Black Med Helm

 

7. Black Longsword+Blue Charm

 

8. Harrlander, Avantoe+Green Charm

 

9. Black Longsword

 

10. Black Chainbody

 

11-15 Disconnected, lost list.

 

11a. Black Patebody+Blue Charm

 

12a. Black Platebody

 

13a. Black Med Hem+Blue Charm

 

14a. Black Platelegs

 

15a. 2 Prayer Potions(3)

 

16. Black Longsword

 

17. Black Longsword+Gold Charm

 

18. 825 Coins

 

19. 15 Chaos Runes

 

20. Black Full Helm+Crimson Charm

 

21. Black Longsword

 

22. 342 Coins

 

23. 2 Prayer Potions(3)

 

24. Avantoe, Marrentill

 

25. Black Med Helm

 

26. Black Platebody+Crimson Charm

 

27. 10 Death Runes+Blue Charm

 

28. 10 Death Runes

 

29. 7 Blood Runes+Crimson Charm

 

30. Black Platelegs

 

31. Black Med Helm+Gold Charm

 

32. Ranarr, Guam+Blue Charm

 

33. 542 Coins

 

34. 50 Iron Ore

 

35. Black Longsword

 

36. 314 Coins+Crimson Charm

 

37. Black Platebody+Gold Charm

 

38. 50 Iron Ore

 

39. 10 Death Runes+Green Charm

 

40. 3 addy bars

 

41. 5 Big Bones (plus genie lamp : )

 

42. 158 Coins

 

43. Black Med Helm+Crimson Charm

 

44. Black PLatebody+Crimson Charm

 

45. 5 Big Bones

 

46. 80 Oak Planks+Green Charm

 

47. 5 Big Bones+Crimson Charm

 

48. Black Chainbody

 

49. 342 Coins+Blue Charm

 

50. Black Longsword+Bue Charm[/hide]

[Racheya]

:o Nice idea.

 

 

 

I'll give it a shot later. :thumbsup: I have a slayer task of over 100 pyrefiends to do so I'll start with that.

[K112]

I'll totally help!

 

 

 

I'll start with Tormented Wraiths, as that's what I'm killing right now and they aren't exactly Runescape's most commonly killed monster. They also don't have any "don't pick up" drops (unless you count the lesser herbs). I'll do 100 with and 100 without.

 

 

 

 

Please keep a tally of your drops somewhere else, as it'll make this all very messy.

[masterben92]

Right, why have an experiment if there has already been an official statement that it does increase ones chance of getting more expensive items?

[Draconic]

Please keep a tally of your drops somewhere else, as it'll make this all very messy.

 

 

 

Even if it's under a hide tab?

[K112]

Right, why have an experiment if there has already been an official statement that it does increase ones chance of getting more expensive items?

 

 

 

Because thats not what the statement says :?:

 

It basicly states that using the ring of wealth increases the chance of getting a rarer drop, my investigation is to work out by what degree this is.

 

 

 

If you want a simplistic term of the roulette wheel ananolgy;

 

 

 

Imagine every monster has two roulette wheels of all their drops, with the rarer drops being on that second wheel.

 

Now, when you kill the monster, the first wheel spins, and if your lucky, on that wheel there is a slot to spin the secoond wheel and get a "Rare" drop.

 

Wearign the ring of wealth increases the chance of getting the chance to spin the second wheel.

 

-Apparently

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT:

 

Please keep a tally of your drops somewhere else, as it'll make this all very messy.

 

 

 

Even if it's under a hide tab?

 

 

 

Fine, go for it then. But Lablel It!!

 

And your adding it up / getting a PC for it :

[Salad]

Totally going to help :thumbsup:

[psvstef]

can't wait to see the results :

[33smokey]

tbh i dont think a 100 kills is enough

 

but none the less i'll be happy to help, i'll do spiritual mages with wealth and edit this post after

 

 

 

edit: my internet just cut out whilst doing it so i missed out 3 of the drops :wall:

[Davix12]

I'll help :

[warrior5024]

This is the third or fourth thread I've seen in my four years of playing, with the exact same concept and plan.

[Gravy]

This is the third or fourth thread I've seen in my four years of playing, with the exact same concept and plan.

 

 

 

Correct.

[gonpost]

I may be wrong...but...

 

 

 

You said shout "PC" and get the trade value? I'm pretty sure that the trade value changes. I believe you should prefer the items over the trade value.

[BloodAngel]

To be honest I think you need to make more than 100 kills to draw a decent conclusion, it is too small a number to see a significant difference. For example while wearing the RoW you could fairly consistently get items worth say 500gp however when not wearing the RoW by chance you could get one or two drops of an item worth 15k which would mess with the results. Even calculating averages wouldn't show you too much of a difference so you might want to up the number of kills.

 

Your choice though.

 

 

 

Good luck :

[Italian5kamikaze]

This is the third or fourth thread I've seen in my four years of playing, with the exact same concept and plan.

 

 

 

Yep, yet every few months after a thread on this has died somebody will make a new one on it.

 

 

 

100 monsters is way too little by the way.

[No_99_Melee]

Old thread don't work... Waste of time it's all random

[Dire_Wolf]

Right, why have an experiment if there has already been an official statement that it does increase ones chance of getting more expensive items?

 

 

 

The topic poster has taken a job that takes alot hard work and that many are interested in the results, and you reply by commenting like that?

 

 

 

Behave please.

 

Old thread don't work... Waste of time it's all random

 

If it's a waste, don't comment it/read it...i suggest avoiding it.

 

 

 

OT: I will try to help if i can, but i am very excited over the result.

[Myweponsg00d]

Your system doesn't really make sense. The "total wealth gained" might not be the best way to approach this. Maybe you could look at that data in addition, but I think the best thing to do would be to have an actual tally of drop percentages with the RoW and without the RoW. For example:

 

Monster A without RoW:

 

28 herbs

 

17 mith scimitars

 

8 fire rune drops

 

7 rune chains

 

2 rune scimitars

 

 

 

Monster A with RoW:

 

19 herbs

 

12 mith scimitars

 

11 fire rune drops

 

9 rune chains

 

3 rune scims

 

 

 

Get my drift? Then we can make an actual estimate at the percentages and how they change from RoW to no RoW. I also think that 100 monsters sounds like a good enough number to me. The point is to get 100s of submissions each with 100 drops and I think that if we could get a few people working at this, we would start to see a fairly accurate pattern. Plus, 100 monsters is not that many and will encourage average people to actually help gather info. Definitely wait awhile before coming to any conclusions though.

 

 

 

This topic comes up every now and then, and we all dismiss it as something that we will simply never know. But...honestly, this time it doesn't seem like such a bad idea. As long as you are able to keep the thread up to date. : ;) I'll probably work on submitting some data soon.

[champion]

Interesting idea. I'm F2P so this doesn't really affect me, but I'll be sure to see the results.

[oliboli1992]

i'll try and help out, but i;m not on much, interested in the results

[SirTommy2005]

You guys want to see dramatic change in drops with the RoL?

 

 

 

Get 200 Aviansie kills with and w/o RoL, you'll see it does work.

[Troacctid]

The ring of wealth increases the chance of getting a rare drop when you kill a monster.

 

I rest my case.

[Slayer_Jesse]

ill be sure to do this when i do my spirit mages task. :thumbup:

[dragon246665]

I didn't keep an actual tally of my drops while killing zamorak warriors but while wearing the ring of wealth I noticed I was getting lots of rune daggers and rune scimitars but when I came later I got very few.