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Once a great game. A story/Rant for veteran players.


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The year is 2004, and Runescape is about to enter it's prime age when the release of the version we play to date is to come out.



The community is strong, filled with fun, smart mature players.

Varrock is alive and bustling with traders attempting to sell their santa hats for 200k. Rune Armor is the top standard of armor to wear. A few higher leveled players are showing off their fabled dragon long swords and battle axes, along with their almost bronze looking dragon medium helmets.



Along with the bustle of merchants, Varrock is alive with pkers of all sorts. Many people are not even pures, and are just out there for the fun of it. The wild is packed. This is the age where the term "3 hit you" came from. You literally held your breath as you watched your hits display and if you didn't hit enough, you clicked as many food as you could before you were engaged into a fight again. Many people perfected the art of catching your opponent before he ran, so he would be forced to stop dead in his tracks, literally.



Magic is rare, and only really available to the wealthy. Many people stand for hours looting the castle in the wilderness's rune spawn. Few teleport out of the wild due to the cost of runes, and the risk of failing your teleport spell. A breed of pures which Runescape has not seen in ages is alive. Tank mages are alive and well. Imagine an incredibly low level wearing full rune casting god spells on you. Some were incredibly deadly!



There are no warnings in the game, other then a few signs marked with X's warning you of the wilderness. Warnings were not needed. Players at this time were able to use COMMON SENSE. We managed fine. If you were dumb enough to fall for a trap, you deserved it.



The economy of Runescape was a free economy, we traded what we wanted for how much. It evolved around pking. Smithing and mining were in their prime age. Huge profits were made off mining and smithing. Those who worked hard enough to Smith Rune items were Kings and Queens. Draynor village was the center of the economy for selling resources such as lobster certs, coal certs.



Runescape 2 was released and was met with mixed feelings by the community. Some loved the new found freedom of easy fast movement of the game, some hated it. The players were given a choice to stay playing Runescape 1 or to move over to Runescape 2. Those who stayed behind were destined to be left in the dust. Runescape 1 today is a graveyard of few players.



With the release of runescape 2, Runescape would boom. The new graphics were prime for their time. The community began to swell, however with the wrong type of people. Jagex began advertising on a popular gaming website for younger children called miniclip. This brought in hundreds of younger kids that were not supposed to be on the game of Runescape. However, due to the easy-ness of going around the age 13 rule, tons of little kids were let in.



These kids that were too young for the game were taken advantage of by many of the players. Many young kids who lack the simple ability of COMMON SENSE were often leaded into lures that were obvious to most mature players. As the younger player base swelled so did the pockets of Jagex. Younger Children became Jagex's cash cows, therefore, Jagex made the mistake of listening to the immature cries of their younger players. Jagex would dumb down the game.



Luring became against the rules. I myself honestly never lured, but I never felt sorry for anyone not smart enough to realize that magic piles of thousands of coins just didn't appear out of no where... ( although I wish they did!) .



Home teleport was born which significantly ruined the thrill of adventure in Runescape. Players previously had the thrill of charting the unknown with no source of back up, which now is just a convient click away.



The difficutly of quests were dumbed down also. Jagex began releasing many short easy low level requirement quests just to please the younger crowd. Some of the story lines were so cheesy that I just had to stop playing the quest because of my disgust towards it.



A ditch was then dug across the whole span of the entrance to the wild for the players who were too oblivious! to realize that they were in a dangerous place! Well gee, really, anyone with half a mind can sense danger when they see A. The Wooden signs with skulls on them. B. The BIG WARNING message that pops up over your screen. And C. players attacking each other and killing each other in the area.



Updates were released that greatly decreased the difficutly to raise skills. ( Pest Control is a big example of this) That place , in its prime days was a boiling pot of cocky young children sapping up experience like animals. Many of us veteran players felt betrayed as we had spent hours upon hours training our combat skills other ways. People zoomed to levels that had previously taken us months to get.



The younger child base would also cause ( in my opinion I know many on here differ) the biggest loss to Runescape.



The younger base of often dumber players that was swelling in Runescape fueled RWT websites. Gold was bought left and right by younger players who were not mature enough to figure out how to legitimately make money in Runescape.



Runescape became an uncontrollable zoo of immature kids and scammers and bots. Something had to be done. The zoo was so big that only a nuke would kill them all off, and that nuke would be the destruction of what had fueled runescape for so many years.



Free trade, the Wilderness, and staking were taken off and were replaced by bounty hunter. However, this also has been now closed.



No longer do the banks flourish with merchants and buyers. The wild no longer flourishes with people, even in pvp worlds. Player interaction, which used to be the heart of Runescape has really died off. Any advantage anyone may be able to take, has now been crushed. Runescape is essentially run like a communist dictatorship government right now. We no longer have a say.





I was level 42 when I first got my full set of Rune armor. I worked my hind end off for it by mining coal. By level 50 it was common for many players to have full rune along with a luxury item such as a santa hat. Nowdays in Runescape I see most level 40s and 50s wearing mith...



I miss the days of Runescape where mature friendly players roamed the worlds. I miss the hustle and bustle of people buying and selling goods, along with the players interaction that used to go on. This is a story/ rant about what I believe this game has turned into and I miss the old days very much. I hope they will come back someday.
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Ever game with small amounts of people have a reasonably smart community, as games get larger, the game deteriorates.
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I'm on your side for this rant.

I remember having to get 1K to find the 'secret place' where the law runes can be found (hillies) :lol:

and trying to collect 100 chaos runes in willdy and legging it like hell south the second I saw a pker :lol:
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Yeah I agree. Nowadays, like 90% of people are just rude and immature people who can't even bother to type properly or even thank people for help.



But obviously, you can't reverse change. So just cope with it, turn off public chat and rant about it in the RSOF where it might get noticed. However, I bet you your thread will be flooded with people saying: " .... you ........ noob, get lost back to RS classic!!!!111111!!!" (with even worse spelling and grammar)



Jagex wants to make money, its a company. Obviously it has to change.

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Runescape through rose tinted glasses, change is bad, omg dem kiddies r runing da gaem. Iz dum an ezy to play. commies nazis jagex lolz




that sums up your rants.



And if you think players are being ignored, you need to stop going on 5 month leaves from tip.it, you haven't met Mod MMG
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Runescape became an uncontrollable zoo of immature kids and scammers and bots. Something had to be done. The zoo was so big that only a nuke would kill them all off, and that nuke would be the destruction of what had fueled runescape for so many years.

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I miss the days of Runescape where mature friendly players roamed the worlds. I miss the hustle and bustle of people buying and selling goods, along with the players interaction that used to go on. This is a story/ rant about what I believe this game has turned into and I miss the old days very much. I hope they will come back someday.


Just wondering, how old are you? (rhetorical question)

If you're older than 24, then I'm not going to give you much grief.

But if you're younger than that, perhaps the only thing that changed was that you grew up.

Talking post-miniclip, the player base hasn't changed much. Most people will enter the game around 12-14, and leave around 17-18.



The game itself has evolved, and as players, we have to evolve too. You can B**** and moan all you want about faster xp methods, but unless you have 90+ in a stat, you're going to benefit from it as much or more than anyone else.

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Sure this game has evolved into user-friendly territory and safety-first concept, but it doesn't mean it's all that bad, the home teleport is something I use almost every slayer task to recharge prayer. I agree that common sense should be learned by experience and some features like the wilderness ditch were un-needed as you had warnings before going into the wild prior to it. I still think it's a great game, RWT ruined it and it caused the trade limits. The grand exchange is pretty good for players like me who hate standing in a crowded world spamming "selling whips 1,4mil" repeatedly.

Sorry you feel this way about the game, people change, games change, adapt or quit. To me, this game is light-years away from the crappy classic I started playing.


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Runescape was not better before..

when i created my account i got scammed by some lvl 9-10s who brought me to the wildy and made me skull and killed me then..

i didnt know anything about the wildy or nothing.. gf bronze sword



players were not smart or mature before.. they were some mature and kind people, but the majority of players were just kiddies who begged for stuff and do all those things.. just like today..



i cant stand those people who still think that runescape was better before.. thats not true, ffs.
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The community wasn't better in the early days. Perhaps in 2001, when the community was still very small. But a mature community in 2004? Lol, no. Absolutely not.



It's absolutely outrageous that you blame everything on younger players, without a single valid argument. I'm a 21 years old myself, but I'm getting sick of people trying to blame everything on younger players. Sure, they can be a nuisance, but no, they're not responsible for a bad community, nor was it any better during the early days of 2004.



I remember there were a lot more scammers back in the early days.

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Ive found (and i have numerous friends who played this game) that the younger ones are nicer, than say the ones that are 15 years old.



Just me. Its the fact that there is internet anonymity, and people feel power when they can just be a [developmentally delayed] without any repercussions.
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Ive found (and i have numerous friends who played this game) that the younger ones are nicer, than say the ones that are 15 years old.



Just me. Its the fact that there is internet anonymity, and people feel power when they can just be a [developmentally delayed] without any repercussions.


Given the (until recent) 13 year old age limitation, 15 years is very, VERY young. Anyone under 25 has an underdeveloped brain, and they generally aren't mature (and never fully mature). It's simple science.



In response to the rant: Talk about rose-tinted glasses. Ever since '04 the community has gone UPHILL, growing by leaps and bounds especially after the RWT update that got rid of a lot of people like you. The game has FAR more content, both advanced and simple. There's simply no comparison.
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ARE YOU SAYING IM IMMATURE WAHHHH I HATE YOU NOWSSSSS.



Anyway, its not really a limitation, you have no idea how many people lie about there age.



I'm sure 15 is about average age in runescape.



In response to the rant: Talk about rose-tinted glasses. Ever since '04 the community has gone UPHILL, growing by leaps and bounds especially after the RWT update that got rid of a lot of people like you. The game has FAR more content, both advanced and simple. There's simply no comparison.




The community has nothing to do with additional updates. No, they community is not stronger than ever, the community has an endless amount of people who are complete tools, and half of them would be banned if idiocy was ever made into a RS rule.
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Could be, no idea. I am saying that 15 year olds are generally immature, some more then others.
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RuneScape's community hasn't changed much since I began playing. The most notable change was finally shedding some pures and PKers with the Wilderness update, which was quite pleasant. Of course, this made all the ex-PKers quite whiny. Overall though, we've made some real progress. I certainly enjoy the updates, can make a mature friend in as little as ten minutes, disable the warnings that you find so offensive, give/take 240k per hour (That should be more than enough!), and run around in my mithril/adamant armor combination which I pride myself on. That covers most of the rant, right?
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I started playing since Runescape 2 came out and honestly, i think its too harsh too blame bots and scammers on miniclip. It was bound to happen anyway, Runescape became bigger and better and more people were attracted to it. And there were plenty of scammers back then. Someone told me there was a rune sword in the wilderness. I got killed and lost a set of full steel my friend made for me. Darn.

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You can't generalise and say all people below (insert age) are immature. Mature has several meanings, one meaning you have met full development of your mind (which is what you're talking about) and another is that you think something out fully and carefully before you talk about it (which even 10 year olds can do if they put their mind to it).

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Here is the "Frontal Lobe Test". Normally you reach maturity (for boys) when your frontal lobes develop.



Now if you thought that had anything to do with sexuality you are immature.

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You can't generalise and say all people below (insert age) are immature. Mature has several meanings, one meaning you have met full development of your mind (which is what you're talking about) and another is that you think something out fully and carefully before you talk about it (which even 10 year olds can do if they put their mind to it).


No, they can't. Read up on it. They don't have the physical brain to balance long term rewards\punishments. Check it out at http://en.wikipedia....ki/Frontal_lobe



Yes, some mature faster then others. But none of them are fully capable of being mature, which evidences itself through many people.
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Yes, some mature faster then others. But none of them are fully capable of being mature, which evidences itself through many people.

I disagree. You are pitting biology against psychology; that issue has yet to be resolved.
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I disagree. You are pitting biology against psychology; that issue has yet to be resolved.


Are you kidding me? That issue was resolved decades ago, and work by people like Toga, Miller, and Cohen have continued to demonstrate it. It's easily observed with the Wilson card test. I don't have the credentials nor degrees to argue the issue itself, but I feel confident due to the fact that it has generally been accepted by science as a whole. Unless you can offer me significant evidence in the form of studies or public statements, I'm going to have to side with the field of science on this one.
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