Knotch_Blade Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Alright everyone, here is your space to lol. [lol space] [/lol space] Okay, this is a true news story. Injaz (Arabic: ??????, meaning "achievement"; born April 8, 2009[1]) is a female dromedary camel, credited with being the world's first cloned camel. Dr. Nisar Ahmad Wani, a veterinarian embryologist at the Camel Reproduction Center in Dubai, United Arab Emirates, announced on April 14, 2009, that the cloned camel was born after an "uncomplicated" gestation of 378 days.[2] The cloning project had the personal endorsement and financial support of Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, the Prime Minister and Vice President of the United Arab Emirates and the emir of Dubai.[2][3] Prior to this, there have been several unsuccessful attempts in the Emirate to clone a camel.[3] Injaz was created from ovarian cells of an adult camel slaughtered for its meat in 2005.[3] The cells were grown in microbiological culture and then frozen in liquid nitrogen.[2] Afterwards, one of the cells was injected into a nucleus-removed oocyte of the surrogate camel, which were fused with an electric current and chemically induced to initiate cell division. The resulting embryo was cultured for a week and implanted back into the surrogate camel's uterus. Twenty days later, its pregnancy was confirmed using ultrasound and monitored throughout the gestation period.[2] After Injaz's birth, its DNA was tested at the Molecular Biology and Genetics Laboratory in Dubai and confirmed to be identical copies of the DNA of the original ovarian cells, proving that Injaz is a clone of the original camel.[2][3] Camel racing is a lucrative industry in the UAE[4] and Dr. Lulu Skidmore, the Center's scientific director, commented that the camel cloning "gives a means of preserving the valuable genetics of our elite racing and milk-producing camels in the future."[3] More reliable news sources: BBC Try googling it, I can't find any American news sources. :P Opinions/Comments? My Gamercard | Click for Blog | Mining Guide | Illumination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riku3220 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 We've already cloned a sheep. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolly_the_sheep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runescapeloser22 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Camel > Sheep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 We've also cloned multiple other animals including a horse . . . Cloning as we know it is sort of pointless because of the high failure rate (Dolly took like 200 attempts before the nucleus transplant was successful.) Plus it doesn't have any real practical use. It's a scientific curiosity. Thank you genetic conference. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I want them to clone a human next. "The cry of the poor is not always just, but if you never hear it you'll never know what justice is." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riku3220 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I want them to clone a human next. They can't, it's "unethical". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmcannibalism Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I want them to clone a human next. why would you want there to be more humans :shock: Interesting to see we are cloning such a managerie, I would love to see a human cloning soon all sarcasm aside. Orthodoxy is unconciousnessthe only ones who should kill are those who are prepared to be killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldJoe Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I liked Dolly better. I wonder if i'll see a human clone during my life time? I mean, it is possible to do it. But due to various lobbyists and religous people i don't think it will happen in the next 50 years. Perhaps, but who knows. I think of storm troopers when i hear human cloning lol. J'adore aussi le sexe et les snuff moviesJe trouve que ce sont des purs moments de vieJe ne me reconnais plus dans les gensJe suis juste un cas désespérantEt comme personne ne viendra me réclamerJe terminerai comme un objet retrouvé Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zygimantas Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I want them to clone a human next. They can't, it's "unethical". I'll volunteer! For free! 99 Hunter - November 1st, 200899 Cooking -July 22nd, 200999 Firemaking - July 29th, 201099 Fletching - December 30th, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riku3220 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I want them to clone a human next. They can't, it's "unethical". I'll volunteer! For free! They'll need a woman willing to put your DNA into their womb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I want them to clone a human next. They can't, it's "unethical". I'll volunteer! For free! They'll need a woman willing to put your DNA into their womb.Probably more than one. Actually, a lot of women. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zygimantas Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I want them to clone a human next. They can't, it's "unethical". I'll volunteer! For free! They'll need a woman willing to put your DNA into their womb. then they will want someone good looking eh? But in Nazi terms all they need is blonde hair and blue eyes, and I got that \ 99 Hunter - November 1st, 200899 Cooking -July 22nd, 200999 Firemaking - July 29th, 201099 Fletching - December 30th, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotch_Blade Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 Yea, I know we've cloned a sheep. But isn't each new clone a further "woot" for the human race and it's scientific endeavors? My Gamercard | Click for Blog | Mining Guide | Illumination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenshinjapan Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Yea, I know we've cloned a sheep. But isn't each new clone a further "woot" for the human race and it's scientific endeavors? Not really, until we clone a human that is. We've already cloned a sheep. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolly_the_sheep Sheep don't have humps :thumbdown: . YOU! ATTEND TET EVENTS! CLICK HERE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racheya Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I want them to clone a human next. They can't, it's "unethical". I'll volunteer! For free! They'll need a woman willing to put your DNA into their womb. *jumps up and down* Oooh! Pick me! Pick me! I think we should have our own Tip.It cloning experiment : I edit for the [Tip.It Times]. I rarely write in [My Blog]. I am an [Ex-Moderator]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1_man_army Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 We've already cloned a sheep. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolly_the_sheep Yet again the Scots help mankind reach greater heights ;) . It's okay we know the world is thankful. He who learns must suffer, and, even in our sleep, pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart,and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus (525 BC - 456 BC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riku3220 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 We've already cloned a sheep. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolly_the_sheep Yet again the Scots help mankind reach greater heights ;) . It's okay we know the world is thankful. The Scots have done more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1_man_army Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Just to stay on topic: I want them to clone a human next. They can't, it's "unethical". Cloning humans would be unethical in my opinion. For a start we have more than enough people on our little planet. On top of that there is the possibility of genetic abnormalities stemming from mistakes in the process. Also it could be tremendously misused by people. It just doesn't sit well with me to be honest. --------------------- We've already cloned a sheep. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolly_the_sheep Yet again the Scots help mankind reach greater heights ;) . It's okay we know the world is thankful. The Scots have done more? Aren't you familiar with the television or the telephone? (Meucci can cry me a river he was too slow, Bell got there first) Edit - I found a link with a decent list of things on it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Inventions To summarise: :thumbup: He who learns must suffer, and, even in our sleep, pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart,and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus (525 BC - 456 BC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 We've also cloned multiple other animals including a horse . . . Cloning as we know it is sort of pointless because of the high failure rate (Dolly took like 200 attempts before the nucleus transplant was successful.) Plus it doesn't have any real practical use. It's a scientific curiosity. Thank you genetic conference. Lol. I remember that list he gave us. Sheep, Mice, Horse, Water Buffalo, Cat, and some endangered species were among them. I'm sure there were more. Last.Fm My Bloggy Proud to have served on Tip.it Crew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgedThesis Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I want them to clone a human next. They can't, it's "unethical". I'll volunteer! For free! Its the clone that we're worried about. Not the person being cloned. He will have a life spent in a scientific prison, being prodded and injected, probed and examined. It'd be a hell of white walls and stainless steel. And if human rights are conferred upon clones, companies doing the cloning will have nothing to gain. They will have to set their projects free. But I don't want to go among mad people!Oh, you can't help that. We're all mad here..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will H Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 We've also cloned multiple other animals including a horse . . . Cloning as we know it is sort of pointless because of the high failure rate (Dolly took like 200 attempts before the nucleus transplant was successful.) Plus it doesn't have any real practical use. It's a scientific curiosity. Thank you genetic conference. Lol. Not so. If we perfect cloning we could un-extinct any non-human organism, as we could take a sample of the DNA from the organism before it dies out, implant it into an egg then use a similar species as the surrogate mother. Easy. ~ W ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 We've also cloned multiple other animals including a horse . . . Cloning as we know it is sort of pointless because of the high failure rate (Dolly took like 200 attempts before the nucleus transplant was successful.) Plus it doesn't have any real practical use. It's a scientific curiosity. Thank you genetic conference. Lol. Not so. If we perfect cloning we could un-extinct any non-human organism, as we could take a sample of the DNA from the organism before it dies out, implant it into an egg then use a similar species as the surrogate mother. Easy. Doing it before it dies out isn't "un-extinction." It's cloning an endangered species. And we've already done that. But as I said, there is an extremely high failure rate for the transplantation and any species that can afford to wait on that can probably recover naturally. Look at the buffalo. You can't do it with a similar species either. Human and apes as I'm sure you've heard share 99% of their DNA. But can't reproduce with each other. While you skip the incompatibility somewhat by preparing the fertilized egg beforehand, there are all kinds of problems you could run into during gestation. That just adds another factor for failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will H Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 We've also cloned multiple other animals including a horse . . . Cloning as we know it is sort of pointless because of the high failure rate (Dolly took like 200 attempts before the nucleus transplant was successful.) Plus it doesn't have any real practical use. It's a scientific curiosity. Thank you genetic conference. Lol. Not so. If we perfect cloning we could un-extinct any non-human organism, as we could take a sample of the DNA from the organism before it dies out, implant it into an egg then use a similar species as the surrogate mother. Easy. Doing it before it dies out isn't "un-extinction." It's cloning an endangered species. And we've already done that. But as I said, there is an extremely high failure rate for the transplantation and any species that can afford to wait on that can probably recover naturally. Look at the buffalo. You can't do it with a similar species either. Human and apes as I'm sure you've heard share 99% of their DNA. But can't reproduce with each other. While you skip the incompatibility somewhat by preparing the fertilized egg beforehand, there are all kinds of problems you could run into during gestation. That just adds another factor for failure. It's difficult, I know. I was kinda joking about the 'easy' part, it clearly isn't. But, all I'm saying is that it would make animal conservation easier if we manage to lower the failure rate, it's not a fundamentally useless scientific curiosity. ~ W ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauke Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 We've also cloned multiple other animals including a horse . . . Cloning as we know it is sort of pointless because of the high failure rate (Dolly took like 200 attempts before the nucleus transplant was successful.) Plus it doesn't have any real practical use. It's a scientific curiosity. Thank you genetic conference. Lol. Not so. If we perfect cloning we could un-extinct any non-human organism, as we could take a sample of the DNA from the organism before it dies out, implant it into an egg then use a similar species as the surrogate mother. Easy. Doing it before it dies out isn't "un-extinction." It's cloning an endangered species. And we've already done that. But as I said, there is an extremely high failure rate for the transplantation and any species that can afford to wait on that can probably recover naturally. Look at the buffalo. You can't do it with a similar species either. Human and apes as I'm sure you've heard share 99% of their DNA. But can't reproduce with each other. While you skip the incompatibility somewhat by preparing the fertilized egg beforehand, there are all kinds of problems you could run into during gestation. That just adds another factor for failure. Once we get to know the exact biochemistry of omnipotent stem cells we'll be a big step further towards efficient cloning. We will be getting there. No doubt about it. And then we don't have to clone a whole organism, but rather single organs, or organ systems. I did research on preserving and stimulating hematopoietic stem cells, and I must say, it all looks very promising. Twitter ||| Google+ ||| Facebook ||| LinkedIn ||| My very interesting weblog about science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distracted Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Actually, they were able to clone an endangered wild cat using a house cat. So if the animals are that close alike, I bet they can clone it, but wild cats and house cats are almost the same thing. So yeah, for now I think of cloning as a useless thing in this world, and I doubt that we'll ever be able to clone that well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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