May 9, 200917 yr That is so ignorant. Mage is BY FAR the most powerful skill in the combat triangle. I agree completely with you! I'm sick of mages hitting 75s or four hits at once and then picking up their ammo, while melee and range can only hit 34-ish max and can't pick up their ammo. It's ridiculous, and your insight makes me think Jagex should make you PvP King. :roll: :wall: -.- http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?f=103&t=777299 Ah, this reminds me about the noob on the Runescape forums who was upset with the quest "Cold War" because apparently his grandparents died in the war. :wall:
May 9, 200917 yr I was just gazing at the picture in the update message and noticed two flaws 1) I don't get it. What's wrong with mages in PvP? 2) It could be that the ranger is attacking a far-off target (off the picture) and the meleer just left combat. In other words, those two may not be fighting each other at all. I was just mocking the fact that mage is the most underpowered combat skill :P well if the ranger is attacking someone off screen that doesn't answer why none of them 3 have a skull lol 100% true mage is the most underpowered skill :thumbdown:actually mage is by far the strongest combat skill. you just dont know how to use it properly I'm gonna be walking down an alley in varrock, and walka is going to walk up to me in a trench coat and say "psst.. hey man, wanna buy some sara brew"walka92- retired with 99 in attack, strength, defence, health, magic, ranged, prayer and herblore and 137 combat. some day i may return to claim 138 combat, but alas, that time has not yet come
May 9, 200917 yr That is so ignorant. Mage is BY FAR the most powerful skill in the combat triangle. I agree completely with you! I'm sick of mages hitting 75s or four hits at once and then picking up their ammo, while melee and range can only hit 34-ish max and can't pick up their ammo. It's ridiculous, and your insight makes me think Jagex should make you PvP King. Your sharp wit makes me think you should be Sarcasm King.
May 9, 200917 yr The pjers are coming in now :thumbdown: Oh well they are easier to kill now when they can't tele. My blog
May 9, 200917 yr The pjers are coming in now :thumbdown: Oh well they are easier to kill now when they can't tele. I love just whipping out my anchor when they try to pj and watching them get owned. :twisted: Many believe that the 1980 eruption of Mt. Saint Helens was a catostrophic geological event, in reality it was the day that Jimi Hendrix returned to Earth from the next world and actually stood up next to a mountain and chopped it down with the edge of his hand.-Random Youtuber
May 9, 200917 yr Amazing drops when you kill your target. I 1-itemed with a dds against another 1-itemer who was my target. In killing him i got 250k worth of stuff. Rune kite, warrior ring, dragon spear, rune bolts (p) A little unbalanced but hey I'm not complaining :)
May 9, 200917 yr Similar to the changes we made to the way PvP worlds work to prevent people from using fun weapons or low-level spells, we have updated the system to detect other ways of fighting without taking any risks. Now, if you see anyone in single-way combat who is fighting without taking any apparent damage over an extended period of time, you can jump in and teach them how fighting works. discus this lol Well, it looks like the 10+ hours I saved up for 26king or whatever will now be used to actually PK. Or maybe Ill still try it. Just take a look at those 2 pics above me. Magic owns. Just because you can't use it right doesn't mean it's bad. Sometimes it isn't the skill, it's the user. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~
May 9, 200917 yr I like it as it gives the feeling of old clan PKing. At least it's more civil than a large portion of the freelance PKers. :|
May 9, 200917 yr That is so ignorant. Mage is BY FAR the most powerful skill in the combat triangle. I agree completely with you! I'm sick of mages hitting 75s or four hits at once and then picking up their ammo, while melee and range can only hit 34-ish max and can't pick up their ammo. It's ridiculous, and your insight makes me think Jagex should make you PvP King. :roll: :wall: -.- http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?f=103&t=777299
May 10, 200917 yr wow dats mazin cant even beleve dat melee is so uber op. i like dat it freezes, poisons, lowers attack/strength, and heals u when u use duh armadeel gs wif dragun clause. o wait. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off.
May 10, 200917 yr [hide=] That is so ignorant. Mage is BY FAR the most powerful skill in the combat triangle. I agree completely with you! I'm sick of mages hitting 75s or four hits at once and then picking up their ammo, while melee and range can only hit 34-ish max and can't pick up their ammo. It's ridiculous, and your insight makes me think Jagex should make you PvP King. :roll: :wall: -.- http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?f=103&t=777299 [/hide] I think you missed one of the main points, look at the two pictures. The target cannot move. So tell me what good are AGS and Claws if they cant hit your target because you are frozen? Before you reply, I'd also like to cover 2 points regarding the statement above. #1) Yes, the melee'er could just put on D'hide, block all mage attacks, and use a melee weapon. That's called hybridizing (Hybriding). You cannot compare a hybrid to a 100% mage, as Hybrid is a combination of two skills, not just one. If the target hybrids, the mage better be hybriding too. Only people who don't understand the triangle bring one combat type into battle and expect it to be successful on everything. #2) Rushing is an inaccurate comparison of how powerful a combat type is. If you rush with Mage/Range/Melee, it dosen't matter. Rushing always has the element of supprise and thus has an advantage over the target. Most Rushers are hybrids anyways, so they cannot even be put in a triangle classification. That being said, sure mage could be improved with things like putting runes inside stave's and auto casting all combat spells, but magic is certainly not a "weak" skill. It is on par with both of the others, just in different ways.
May 10, 200917 yr i went on and lost 5mil within 30 minutes. sweet as. Gamertag: EFs Predator.Games I play: Halo 3, Halo wars.
May 10, 200917 yr [hide=] That is so ignorant. Mage is BY FAR the most powerful skill in the combat triangle. I agree completely with you! I'm sick of mages hitting 75s or four hits at once and then picking up their ammo, while melee and range can only hit 34-ish max and can't pick up their ammo. It's ridiculous, and your insight makes me think Jagex should make you PvP King. :roll: :wall: -.- http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?f=103&t=777299 [/hide] I think you missed one of the main points, look at the two pictures. The target cannot move. So tell me what good are AGS and Claws if they cant hit your target because you are frozen? Before you reply, I'd also like to cover 2 points regarding the statement above. #1) Yes, the melee'er could just put on D'hide, block all mage attacks, and use a melee weapon. That's called hybridizing (Hybriding). You cannot compare a hybrid to a 100% mage, as Hybrid is a combination of two skills, not just one. If the target hybrids, the mage better be hybriding too. Only people who don't understand the triangle bring one combat type into battle and expect it to be successful on everything. #2) Rushing is an inaccurate comparison of how powerful a combat type is. If you rush with Mage/Range/Melee, it dosen't matter. Rushing always has the element of supprise and thus has an advantage over the target. Most Rushers are hybrids anyways, so they cannot even be put in a triangle classification. That being said, sure mage could be improved with things like putting runes inside stave's and auto casting all combat spells, but magic is certainly not a "weak" skill. It is on par with both of the others, just in different ways. You are wrong. Mage is not on par with melee and range. Mage completely dominates melee and range, and should have been nerfed a long, long time ago. It can freeze, poison, heal you, drain stats, cut attack speed in half, and hit up to 62 with a degree of accuracy that meleers or rangers can only dream of. Ah, this reminds me about the noob on the Runescape forums who was upset with the quest "Cold War" because apparently his grandparents died in the war. :wall:
May 10, 200917 yr [hide=][hide=] That is so ignorant. Mage is BY FAR the most powerful skill in the combat triangle. I agree completely with you! I'm sick of mages hitting 75s or four hits at once and then picking up their ammo, while melee and range can only hit 34-ish max and can't pick up their ammo. It's ridiculous, and your insight makes me think Jagex should make you PvP King. :roll: :wall: -.- http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?f=103&t=777299 [/hide] I think you missed one of the main points, look at the two pictures. The target cannot move. So tell me what good are AGS and Claws if they cant hit your target because you are frozen? Before you reply, I'd also like to cover 2 points regarding the statement above. #1) Yes, the melee'er could just put on D'hide, block all mage attacks, and use a melee weapon. That's called hybridizing (Hybriding). You cannot compare a hybrid to a 100% mage, as Hybrid is a combination of two skills, not just one. If the target hybrids, the mage better be hybriding too. Only people who don't understand the triangle bring one combat type into battle and expect it to be successful on everything. #2) Rushing is an inaccurate comparison of how powerful a combat type is. If you rush with Mage/Range/Melee, it dosen't matter. Rushing always has the element of supprise and thus has an advantage over the target. Most Rushers are hybrids anyways, so they cannot even be put in a triangle classification. That being said, sure mage could be improved with things like putting runes inside stave's and auto casting all combat spells, but magic is certainly not a "weak" skill. It is on par with both of the others, just in different ways. You are wrong. Mage is not on par with melee and range. Mage completely dominates melee and range, and should have been nerfed a long, long time ago. It can freeze, poison, heal you, drain stats, cut attack speed in half, and hit up to 62 with a degree of accuracy that meleers or rangers can only dream of.[/hide] Lol? I'd like to see mage hit 80s/90s.
May 10, 200917 yr Yes, magic has a lower max hit. Doesn't mean it's less effective. Ah, this reminds me about the noob on the Runescape forums who was upset with the quest "Cold War" because apparently his grandparents died in the war. :wall:
May 10, 200917 yr lol everybody's obsessed with hitting high... nobody cares about defense or accuracy or status ailments anymore thank goodness for full Ahrims :D
May 10, 200917 yr Yes, magic has a lower max hit. Doesn't mean it's less effective. Ah, but it is. Slap on some d'hide and pray mage, and you're good against mages.
May 10, 200917 yr Yes, magic has a lower max hit. Doesn't mean it's less effective. Ah, but it is. Slap on some d'hide and pray mage, and you're good against mages. So if I slap on some good armor and pray melee, then I'm good against meleers? Ah, this reminds me about the noob on the Runescape forums who was upset with the quest "Cold War" because apparently his grandparents died in the war. :wall:
May 10, 200917 yr Yes, magic has a lower max hit. Doesn't mean it's less effective. Ah, but it is. Slap on some d'hide and pray mage, and you're good against mages. So if I slap on some good armor and pray melee, then I'm good against meleers? Thats his point, you can do that against mage, but not melee. 99 Hunter - November 1st, 200899 Cooking -July 22nd, 200999 Firemaking - July 29th, 201099 Fletching - December 30th, 2010
May 10, 200917 yr Yes, magic has a lower max hit. Doesn't mean it's less effective. Ah, but it is. Slap on some d'hide and pray mage, and you're good against mages. Hmm I wonder what would happen if I slapped on a torags set and prayed melee. :-k :roll:
May 10, 200917 yr [hide=]Yes, magic has a lower max hit. Doesn't mean it's less effective. Ah, but it is. Slap on some d'hide and pray mage, and you're good against mages. Hmm I wonder what would happen if I slapped on a torags set and prayed melee. :-k :roll:[/hide] Try reading above first before you post. As far as I can see, Musky was talking about magic. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he never said a word about melee. -.- Nate's Big Blog4,000th to 99 crafting, 33,340th to 99 defence, 3,867th to 99 farming, 55,293rd to 99 hitpoints
May 10, 200917 yr [hide=]Yes, magic has a lower max hit. Doesn't mean it's less effective. Ah, but it is. Slap on some d'hide and pray mage, and you're good against mages. Hmm I wonder what would happen if I slapped on a torags set and prayed melee. :-k :roll:[/hide] Try reading above first before you post. As far as I can see, Musky was talking about magic. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he never said a word about melee. -.- All im saying is,doing so would have the same effect for melee or ranged.Its not like thats only a problem for mages.
May 10, 200917 yr Yes, magic has a lower max hit. Doesn't mean it's less effective. Ah, but it is. Slap on some d'hide and pray mage, and you're good against mages. So if I slap on some good armor and pray melee, then I'm good against meleers? Thats his point, you can do that against mage, but not melee. Erm... what? [hide=]Yes, magic has a lower max hit. Doesn't mean it's less effective. Ah, but it is. Slap on some d'hide and pray mage, and you're good against mages. Hmm I wonder what would happen if I slapped on a torags set and prayed melee. :-k :roll:[/hide] Try reading above first before you post. As far as I can see, Musky was talking about magic. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he never said a word about melee. -.- All im saying is,doing so would have the same effect for melee or ranged.Its not like thats only a problem for mages. No. Magic rips through dragonhide. Melee is horribly inaccurate against good armor. Ah, this reminds me about the noob on the Runescape forums who was upset with the quest "Cold War" because apparently his grandparents died in the war. :wall:
May 10, 200917 yr No. Magic rips through dragonhide I'm 99 magic and I can tell you, magic does not "rip through dragonhide". Magic accuracy is based on your magic bonus, and your magic level. Since magic bonuses are relatively low in most cases, this means the majority of the magic accuracy comes from the magic level. Since your magic level is also partly magic defense, if your opponent has an equal or higher magic level than you, you are very likely to splash if they have magic resistant armor on. Opposite, if your magic attack is much higher your going to have a much greater accuracy hitting, but even with a higher magic level, dragonhide stats still filter out maybe 1/3 to 1/2 the attacks on average. Add prayer to this, and you filter out around 2/3 of the attacks on average. If you have a lower magic level, well your at about 3/4 splashes or splashing all the time. Melee is horribly inaccurate against good armor. You are comparing melee attacks to melee armor? You could say the same about any combat type. Melee attacks are generally inaccurate against melee armor. Magic attacks are generally inaccurate against magic armor. Range attacks are generally inaccurate against range armor. The triangle is designed to make people using the same combat types to be relatively inaccurate. This is why you are supposed to use an opposite type different than that your opponent is using.
May 10, 200917 yr Mage hits better against high mage defense then melee against high melee defense. 1 in 3 is very accurate compared to melee; besides most people don't use protect in PvP. Anyway I doubt dragonhide causes mage hits to splash 50% of the time or anywhere near that amount. How much mage pvp have you done? Range armor drops the hit rate to around 60%, far better then melee does on mage armor. Ah, this reminds me about the noob on the Runescape forums who was upset with the quest "Cold War" because apparently his grandparents died in the war. :wall:
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