JAFFA CAKES

[20Rice04]

Before you start to read this, please keep in mind that this is NOT in anyway related to RS it's just a bit of fun. I know it kind of breaks the debate club rules but I have no idea where else to post this, as I said, just for fun! :P :D

 

 

 

Okay, so me and my GF had a really big argument. And it's not of the usual kind, like a couples fall out, it's over this:

 

 

 

are Jaffa cakes a cake or biscuit?

 

 

 

there are papers written over this argument and McVities (company who make the CAKES) were taken to court in 1991 as they classed their product as a cake to avoid the 15% tax on production of biscuits. In the end they convinced the court that their product was a a Cake.

 

 

 

HOWEVER the argument rages to this day, the lines are drawn, which side shall you take?

 

 

 

(I'm cake and my gf's biscuit, when arguing please bare this in mind, she's a woman, so she knows nothing.........I KID)

[Clay_More12]

imo its biscuit.

[funnisam]

the base is a sponge CAKE. therefore i'd say it was a cake.

[Teeg]

OK

 

 

 

Having worked in the "industry" some time ago, I think I can furnish you with the answer.

 

 

 

The difference is based on what happens when the items go stale.

 

 

 

Cakes get hard when they go stale.

 

Biscuits get soft when they go stale.

 

 

 

Jaffa Cakes are in fact cakes, as the sponge gets hard when stale.

 

 

 

Now the science bit! This is based on the ERH (Equilibrium Relative Humidity) of the various products. Cakes generally have an ERH of 70 - 85%, some as high as 90%. After a time the cakes lose moisture to the air, making them harder.

 

 

 

Biscuits, on the other hand, have a much lower ERH, normaly in the 60%'s. These gain water from the air over time, making them softer.

 

 

 

Hope this helps.

[Will H]

OK

 

 

 

Having worked in the "industry" some time ago, I think I can furnish you with the answer.

 

 

 

The difference is based on what happens when the items go stale.

 

 

 

Cakes get hard when they go stale.

 

Biscuits get soft when they go stale.

 

 

 

Jaffa Cakes are in fact cakes, as the sponge gets hard when stale.

 

 

 

Now the science bit! This is based on the ERH (Equilibrium Relative Humidity) of the various products. Cakes generally have an ERH of 70 - 85%, some as high as 90%. After a time the cakes lose moisture to the air, making them harder.

 

 

 

Biscuits, on the other hand, have a much lower ERH, normaly in the 60%'s. These gain water from the air over time, making them softer.

 

 

 

Hope this helps.

 

I never realised that people actually gave scientific definitions to biscuits and cakes. Good job, though, it makes sense.

 

 

 

A Jaffa Cake is a cake that is used as a biscuit, like a tomato is a fruit that is used as a vegetable.

[Millard]

 

 

 

/thread.

[Racheya]

I knew the question as soon as I saw the title and it's a very important one.

 

 

 

I think it probably is a cake, but it's in the BISCUIT isle at ASDA?!

[BlackDawn]

Cake, for the reason they go hard when left for a while. I hate jaffa cakes though so they can all burn for all I care.

[Zierro]

They look like cookies to me.

[angryjoe]

Brilliant thread, jaffa cakes are brillll.

 

 

 

i would say they are cakes. Biscuits are harder than jaffa cakes.

[Kenshinjapan]

OK

 

 

 

Having worked in the "industry" some time ago, I think I can furnish you with the answer.

 

 

 

The difference is based on what happens when the items go stale.

 

 

 

Cakes get hard when they go stale.

 

Biscuits get soft when they go stale.

 

 

 

Jaffa Cakes are in fact cakes, as the sponge gets hard when stale.

 

 

 

Now the science bit! This is based on the ERH (Equilibrium Relative Humidity) of the various products. Cakes generally have an ERH of 70 - 85%, some as high as 90%. After a time the cakes lose moisture to the air, making them harder.

 

 

 

Biscuits, on the other hand, have a much lower ERH, normaly in the 60%'s. These gain water from the air over time, making them softer.

 

 

 

Hope this helps.

 

I never realised that people actually gave scientific definitions to biscuits and cakes. Good job, though, it makes sense.

 

 

 

A Jaffa Cake is a cake that is used as a biscuit, like a tomato is a fruit that is used as a vegetable.

 

 

 

But it's still a fruit.

 

 

 

In my opinion, it is indeed a cake.

[Etta]

Cake, and Jaffa Cakes are awesome :mrgreen:

[i_love_burritos]

Whats a jaffa cake ?

 

 

 

I had to googl'd it. Looks tasty.

[Kiriyama]

Whats a jaffa cake ?

 

 

 

I had to googl'd it. It is tasty.

 

 

 

Fix'd.

 

 

 

I don't know why, but they jsut are good. Unlike somethings which contain the taste of oranges, this isn't an overpowering taste.

[skate_ilkley]

Of all the things in existance, Jaffa cakes are some of my favourite things ever. The answer to your question lies in the name. THEY ARE DELICIOUS CAKE.

[sohkmj1]

Let's look at the name closely.

 

JAFFA CAKE

 

So, if it has the word cake in it, then surprise! it's a cake!

 

How obvious.

[Will H]

OK

 

 

 

Having worked in the "industry" some time ago, I think I can furnish you with the answer.

 

 

 

The difference is based on what happens when the items go stale.

 

 

 

Cakes get hard when they go stale.

 

Biscuits get soft when they go stale.

 

 

 

Jaffa Cakes are in fact cakes, as the sponge gets hard when stale.

 

 

 

Now the science bit! This is based on the ERH (Equilibrium Relative Humidity) of the various products. Cakes generally have an ERH of 70 - 85%, some as high as 90%. After a time the cakes lose moisture to the air, making them harder.

 

 

 

Biscuits, on the other hand, have a much lower ERH, normaly in the 60%'s. These gain water from the air over time, making them softer.

 

 

 

Hope this helps.

 

I never realised that people actually gave scientific definitions to biscuits and cakes. Good job, though, it makes sense.

 

 

 

A Jaffa Cake is a cake that is used as a biscuit, like a tomato is a fruit that is used as a vegetable.

 

 

 

But it's still a fruit.

 

 

 

In my opinion, it is indeed a cake.

 

Exactly. I would have thought that the name would have been a dead giveaway, in any case.

[Roseiah]

(I'm cake and my gf's biscuit, when arguing please bare this in mind, she's a woman, so she knows nothing.........I KID)

 

 

 

I would hope your kidding :

 

 

 

Jaffa Cakes are a cake, sized like a biscuit just to confuse us all.

[dusqi]

OK

 

 

 

Having worked in the "industry" some time ago, I think I can furnish you with the answer.

 

 

 

The difference is based on what happens when the items go stale.

 

 

 

Cakes get hard when they go stale.

 

Biscuits get soft when they go stale.

 

 

 

Jaffa Cakes are in fact cakes, as the sponge gets hard when stale.

 

 

 

Now the science bit! This is based on the ERH (Equilibrium Relative Humidity) of the various products. Cakes generally have an ERH of 70 - 85%, some as high as 90%. After a time the cakes lose moisture to the air, making them harder.

 

 

 

Biscuits, on the other hand, have a much lower ERH, normaly in the 60%'s. These gain water from the air over time, making them softer.

 

 

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

 

=D> +5 Informative

[Hobgoblinpie]

First off, they are cakes. Second, the 'Orangey bit' is made from apricots.

[WoodenFruit]

I'm not even going to debate this anymore...

[angryjoe]

Second, the 'Orangey bit' is made from apricots.

 

you are wrong. They are half price at mi supermarket so i have a couple of boxes next to me and they don't mention apricot. it says on the box ...,Concentrated orange juice (8% orange juice equivalent),...

[Hobgoblinpie]

Second, the 'Orangey bit' is made from apricots.

 

you are wrong. They are half price at mi supermarket so i have a couple of boxes next to me and they don't mention apricot. it says on the box ...,Concentrated orange juice (8% orange juice equivalent),...

 

 

 

the orangey bit is made from Apricot pulp, sugar and a squirt of tangerine oil.

[Zimbu]

Second, the 'Orangey bit' is made from apricots.

 

you are wrong. They are half price at mi supermarket so i have a couple of boxes next to me and they don't mention apricot. it says on the box ...,Concentrated orange juice (8% orange juice equivalent),...

 

 

 

the orangey bit is made from Apricot pulp, sugar and a squirt of tangerine oil.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffa_Cakes#Specifications :

 

"According to the list of ingredients on a 2008 label, Jaffa Cakes in fact contain no apricot or tangerine, and are made with orange juice, an assertion protected by UK food labelling laws."

 

 

 

It could be different in different countries. Here in Finland it (it's officially a cookie here) contains orange flavoured marmalade. It's manufactured by an LU brand and not McVitie's though.

[Laura]

15%? On biscuits? Wow.