How Could the Holocaust Happen? - A Social Experiment

[Dizzle229]

At least she wasn't like your last history teacher and said that the Holocaust didn't happen and the Cold War killed 600 billion people.

 

 

 

She's not totally accurate, but that is pretty much how any dictatorship maintains their power: fear.

 

 

 

I think I posted wrong in the OP. What I meant to say is that the new history teacher is a guy, (though yeah, hes way better than the idiot who claimed the Cold War killed more people than the world can sustain). Someone asked how the nazis got away with it at first, he couldn't answer. His friend, the English teacher, heard about it, and did this in her class.

 

 

 

It doesnt really matter, just thought I'd say it.

[xSxqPowerx]

Meh. I don't think that would work at my school.

 

People would either assume it's a joke or freak out on the teacher, and no one would agree that they should be suspended.

[Riku3220]

Not exactly about the Nazis or anything else but here's another cool little classroom social test. It's about racism.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Will H]

Meh. I don't think that would work at my school.

 

People would either assume it's a joke or freak out on the teacher, and no one would agree that they should be suspended.

 

Then she clearly knows her class well, and I think that shows that she is excellent at doing her job. I must admit, I bet my old history class would have submitted to the teachers.

[Hedgehog]

Don't flame me for only skimming the thread, but Europe didn't try to stop him, fearing another world war. You have to remember 10 million were brutally killed in WWI. Countries like Britain and France were ready to appease Germany in its conquering, so as to ,again, avoid war. Inside the country, everyone loved Hitler at first. He was the man to restore them to their former glory as before the first world war. Hitler had his countries support on almost anything, if the didn't they would be killed. I hope that helped.

[aspokaspofkjsopfkapo]

***cough***support by the catholic church***cough***cough***

 

 

 

jeez, i've been having horrible alergies lately. :D

[Dizzle229]

***cough***support by the catholic church***cough***cough***

 

 

 

jeez, i've been having horrible alergies lately. :D

 

 

 

Ummm....

 

 

 

That was either...

 

 

 

1. A shot at all the idiots on this forum that blame religion for everything.

 

2. You being an idiot and blaming religion for everything.

 

 

 

If 1, then lol.

 

If 2, gtfo mah internetz.

[Powman3]

There's a book on this topic. I think it's called The Wave.

 

 

 

edit: I'm a little late.

[i_love_burritos]

Your "teachers" are tools.

 

 

 

[hide=Some of you MAY find this offensive]The holocaust aside [yes I know how ridiculous that sounds] Hitler wasn't a bad leader.His party was a law abiding party that in the big picture did many good things for Germany.[/hide]

 

 

 

Short and very vague response but if you want to take it up with me please PM me.

[depresins]

Your "teachers" are tools.

 

 

 

[hide=Some of you MAY find this offensive]The holocaust aside [yes I know how ridiculous that sounds] Hitler wasn't a bad leader.His party was a law abiding party that in the big picture did many good things for Germany.[/hide]

 

 

 

Short and very vague response but if you want to take it up with me please PM me.

 

 

 

QFT. Hitler was an amazing orator and an effective politician who did great things and vastly improved the life of the average German. Most people are too obsessed with the Holocaust to pay attention to the "good" things he did for Germany.

[Kiriyama]

Your "teachers" are tools.

 

 

 

[hide=Some of you MAY find this offensive]The holocaust aside [yes I know how ridiculous that sounds] Hitler wasn't a bad leader.His party was a law abiding party that in the big picture did many good things for Germany.[/hide]

 

 

 

Short and very vague response but if you want to take it up with me please PM me.

 

 

 

QFT. Hitler was an amazing orator and an effective politician who did great things and vastly improved the life of the average German. Most people are too obsessed with the Holocaust to pay attention to the "good" things he did for Germany.

 

 

 

Meh, they don't teach it in schools. I don't see why the [bleep] not.

 

 

 

They decided to do this thing on the Nazi party and such, what was the only focus? The Holocaust. They never even mention anything about anything else really, I doubt the majority of people even know.

[mmmcannibalism]

Your "teachers" are tools.

 

 

 

[hide=Some of you MAY find this offensive]The holocaust aside [yes I know how ridiculous that sounds] Hitler wasn't a bad leader.His party was a law abiding party that in the big picture did many good things for Germany.[/hide]

 

 

 

Short and very vague response but if you want to take it up with me please PM me.

 

 

 

QFT. Hitler was an amazing orator and an effective politician who did great things and vastly improved the life of the average German. Most people are too obsessed with the Holocaust to pay attention to the "good" things he did for Germany.

 

 

 

Meh, they don't teach it in schools. I don't see why the [bleep] not.

 

 

 

They decided to do this thing on the Nazi party and such, what was the only focus? The Holocaust. They never even mention anything about anything else really, I doubt the majority of people even know.

 

 

 

I sense that a lot of that comes from the fact there main purpose so quickly became the world domination. Something like the know nothing party in america lasted a while as a very nationalistic but relevant party while not commiting genocide so it gets a little better rep.

[Kiriyama]

Still, its best not to have a biased education.

 

 

 

Sure, the Nazis weren't the best political group, but they knew how to please the masses, thats gotta be worth something.

[Robert_de_Sable]

Your "teachers" are tools.

 

 

 

[hide=Some of you MAY find this offensive]The holocaust aside [yes I know how ridiculous that sounds] Hitler wasn't a bad leader.His party was a law abiding party that in the big picture did many good things for Germany.[/hide]

 

 

 

Short and very vague response but if you want to take it up with me please PM me.

 

I always have a HUGE problem with people who say things like this. I admit that it is entirely true, but he was a delusional megalomaniac and a disgusting psychopath. The horrors he allowed to happen... they're incomprehensible. Maybe it's because I'm Jewish, but I just can't imagine this making sense to anyone. It's like me going up to someone's house, lighting it on fire, and then shooting them as they run out, and then saying "But other than that I've been pretty nice to them..." That aside, he WAS a brilliant leader and should be recognized for that. No matter how megalomaniacal his speeches were, the less Anti-Jew ones are compelling and really suck you in.

 

 

 

The Holocaust was also able to take place partly through Joseph Goebbel's genius propaganda technique of "The Big Lie," where the propagandist simply repeats a massive, audacious lie over and over and eventually the public will AT LEAST start to believe it. Hitler was also extremely non-specific about his "ethnic cleansing" until it was too large to conceal. By then, however, all of Germany despised the Jews, largely because of Goebbel. Let's face facts, it was a brilliant system that was extremely successful, but it was used wrongly beyond belief. It's a pity Hitler was so blinded by his delusions, otherwise he would've been a perfect leader.

[Kiriyama]

Look, we [bleep]ing get the point.

 

 

 

He did scapegoat the Jews, among others for the cause of loss in WW1, but damn, he knew what to do, and how to get support in the first place.

 

 

 

For all purposes, he was a great leader, and, bad luck aside, WW2 would have probably gone his way if it were not for some decisive battles.

[Robert_de_Sable]

Look, we [bleep] get the point.

 

 

 

He did scapegoat the Jews, among others for the cause of loss in WW1, but damn, he knew what to do, and how to get support in the first place.

 

 

 

For all purposes, he was a great leader, and, bad luck aside, WW2 would have probably gone his way if it were not for some decisive battles.

 

He was a terrible military tactician, though...

 

He had no ability to organize the Luftwaffe and the navy, and was repeatedly criticized for it by generals Halder and Brauchistch.

[Kiriyama]

A leader need not be able to lead their military in this time.

 

 

 

I mean [cabbage], if we put Obama or Bush in complete control of their army's movements and tactics, I'd doubt they'd do much better.

 

 

 

Leaders like Hitler are more of a face for the masses to gather around, in the grand scheme, they are capable of little other than winning over the people. However, I won't say that it is the same for all.

[runescapeloser22]

My teacher did something similar to this a while ago to explain how people were sent to the Gulag camps in Russia. Randomly in the middle of class, he got really angry because apparently someone stole a donut off his desk. He was being really serious, and told everybody to take out a piece of paper and to write down anything they knew about who stole his donut. Before class, he took one kid aside and told him what was going to happen, and to write down anything he wanted. The kid wrote down that his friend stole it, and so my teacher brought that kid out into the hall and "sent him to detention". Just because one person said he did it, with no proof, and he had no chance to defend himself.

 

 

 

It was a lot cooler then it sounds :D

[Skull]

My teacher did something similar to this a while ago to explain how people were sent to the Gulag camps in Russia. Randomly in the middle of class, he got really angry because apparently someone stole a donut off his desk. He was being really serious, and told everybody to take out a piece of paper and to write down anything they knew about who stole his donut. Before class, he took one kid aside and told him what was going to happen, and to write down anything he wanted. The kid wrote down that his friend stole it, and so my teacher brought that kid out into the hall and "sent him to detention". Just because one person said he did it, with no proof, and he had no chance to defend himself.

 

 

 

It was a lot cooler then it sounds :D

 

Ah, Gulags... makes me miss my Russian history class. That and purges. Wasn't Stalin just great?

[Dizzle229]

That would be the greatest sitcom ever. Hitler and Stalin would be college roomates learning to live with eachother. I'd watch it :thumbsup:

[mustangs407]

you should see the movie "The Diary of Anne Frank" it was a great movie about a family in the WWII days. But I'm not so sure if it talked about your question. But, it showed what would happen to the Jew during the days like how they lived and hide and the process of going to concentration camps.

[Alg]

you should see the movie "The Diary of Anne Frank" it was a great movie about a family in the WWII days. But I'm not so sure if it talked about your question. But, it showed what would happen to the Jew during the days like how they lived and hide and the process of going to concentration camps.

 

Isn't the book form the most widely sold book behind The Bible?

[i_love_burritos]

Your "teachers" are tools.

 

 

 

[hide=Some of you MAY find this offensive]The holocaust aside [yes I know how ridiculous that sounds] Hitler wasn't a bad leader.His party was a law abiding party that in the big picture did many good things for Germany.[/hide]

 

 

 

Short and very vague response but if you want to take it up with me please PM me.

 

I always have a HUGE problem with people who say things like this. I admit that it is entirely true, but he was a delusional megalomaniac and a disgusting psychopath. The horrors he allowed to happen... they're incomprehensible. Maybe it's because I'm Jewish, but I just can't imagine this making sense to anyone. It's like me going up to someone's house, lighting it on fire, and then shooting them as they run out, and then saying "But other than that I've been pretty nice to them..." That aside, he WAS a brilliant leader and should be recognized for that. No matter how megalomaniacal his speeches were, the less Anti-Jew ones are compelling and really suck you in.

 

 

 

The Holocaust was also able to take place partly through Joseph Goebbel's genius propaganda technique of "The Big Lie," where the propagandist simply repeats a massive, audacious lie over and over and eventually the public will AT LEAST start to believe it. Hitler was also extremely non-specific about his "ethnic cleansing" until it was too large to conceal. By then, however, all of Germany despised the Jews, largely because of Goebbel. Let's face facts, it was a brilliant system that was extremely successful, but it was used wrongly beyond belief. It's a pity Hitler was so blinded by his delusions, otherwise he would've been a perfect leader.

 

 

 

Look nobody enjoed the pogroms or the stars or the etc.

 

 

 

But the thing is you are acting if it was perpetuated by Hitler. Anti semitism has been happening for over 5000 years. And Goebbel was a [bleep]wit with a few bad ideas, namely Kristallnacht. He was "impure" aswell. He pulled Germany out of a recession, galvanised its people and mitigated any internal threats. Goebbels as I mentioned before was a [bleep]wit.

 

 

 

Also, I totally understand what you mean. I've got a few Jewish friends and also my neighbors are Jewish.

 

 

 

He was a terrible military tactician, though...

 

He had no ability to organize the Luftwaffe and the navy, and was repeatedly criticized for it by generals Halder and Brauchistch.

 

 

 

QFT

[depresins]

Still, its best not to have a biased education.

 

 

 

Sure, the Nazis weren't the best political group, but they knew how to please the masses, thats gotta be worth something.

 

 

 

But as the cliche goes, history is written by the victors, hence the biased education.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I always have a HUGE problem with people who say things like this. I admit that it is entirely true, but he was a delusional megalomaniac and a disgusting psychopath. The horrors he allowed to happen... they're incomprehensible. Maybe it's because I'm Jewish, but I just can't imagine this making sense to anyone. It's like me going up to someone's house, lighting it on fire, and then shooting them as they run out, and then saying "But other than that I've been pretty nice to them..." That aside, he WAS a brilliant leader and should be recognized for that. No matter how megalomaniacal his speeches were, the less Anti-Jew ones are compelling and really suck you in.

 

 

 

The Holocaust was also able to take place partly through Joseph Goebbel's genius propaganda technique of "The Big Lie," where the propagandist simply repeats a massive, audacious lie over and over and eventually the public will AT LEAST start to believe it. Hitler was also extremely non-specific about his "ethnic cleansing" until it was too large to conceal. By then, however, all of Germany despised the Jews, largely because of Goebbel. Let's face facts, it was a brilliant system that was extremely successful, but it was used wrongly beyond belief. It's a pity Hitler was so blinded by his delusions, otherwise he would've been a perfect leader.

 

 

 

I like you. You are mature enough to admit things that most people are far too closed minded to realize. I also like how you lay out your statements to make it obvious what is fact and what is opinion. People like you are fantastic to have meaningful discussions with :)

 

 

 

As you say Robert, being more affected by a perceived negative act, quite obvious which one in this case, you will undoubtedly feel different about it than somebody who wasn't affected by it. I really respect you concede that other people may have differing opinions that you are unable/find it difficult to understand.

[dsavi]

My teacher told us about someone else demonstrating this, how easily people are influenced. I can't remember it right now though... :wall: