Tip.It Times: 26 July 2009

[waheera1]

An excellent conclusion to a well-written fictional series. Bravo Zonorhc!

 

 

 

TS_Stormrage, I'm afraid that your article failed to interest me even remotely as being from a different country, my payment options are different.

 

 

 

jp7725, well written and all, though again I'm sorry to say that whilst I experienced similar things as yourself when beginning as a 'scaper, I still don't find it all that interesting! Nothing personal, or even a fault of yours, just me!

[Ts_Stormrage]

TS_Stormrage, I'm afraid that your article failed to interest me even remotely as being from a different country, my payment options are different.

 

 

 

 

 

Thats ok, I knew from the get-go that this article would relate to MAYBE half the readers, I still thought that it should be written and published :)...

 

 

 

Credit/debit card is the best way by far, you stay a member continously until you decide to cancel and the only 'hidden charges' you'd encounter would be interest, which anyone with a credit card would have their own plan already of dealing with, personally i pay mine off every month and pay nothing extra. Banks are also not blind, stupid, or completely unwillingly to protect their customers money from suspicious activity (contrary to popular opinion) it's no more risky giving your details to Jagex than it is losing your prepaid card on the way home or getting mugged.

 

 

 

On the new rates you only save 2 pounds a month using Wallie on a yearly rate over a credit card, so i really don't see how that's the best option, if i get bored for a while i want to be able to not play knowing i'm not wasting money on membership i'm not using, and the author said it himself sometimes you'd have something left over, would it work out the same or more expensive then?

 

 

 

 

Eww.. I just wrote a lengthy reply and then closed it after previewing..

 

:wall:

 

 

 

 

 

Summary:

 

Hidden charges = credit card fees. Here, it's included in the price of subscription.

 

Security issue is not with jagex having your details, it's the transmission. Malicious software can steal your details, and more machines are infected than most people realise. (google botnet statistics, for example)

 

There's no guarantee you'll get your money back. Banks might not their reputation tarnished, but they're equally reluctant to just let go of money.

 

It's actually 2 pounds a year - Credit card = 3.5 per month -> 42 per year. Wallie = 4.5 per month -> 54 per year OR 39.99 per year outright.

 

 

 

Absolutely correct (although in my calculations I used Euro's, and just wait, one day the brits will switch)... Buying with a whole year with Wallie instead of 12 seperate months costs you 12 pounds less then credit card (which can only be bought monthly)

[Sorator]

From what I've heard, the "pre-paid membership cards" in the US are very, very crappy compared to this Wallie thing you have in the EU. Friends have told me that the cards cost much more than the cost to pay via other methods, and that it simply isn't worth it. I don't know for myself, and I've yet to see such a thing in any stores near me.

 

 

 

Interesting deviation from the usual trend of things, but as others have said, it would have been nice if you included something for those of us outside the EU.

[vttuih2]

1st article was boring and uneeded. Nuff' said.

 

 

 

2nd article was a bit uninformative. He didn't provide any examples. All he did was describe what a trailblaizer was. What's the point...?

 

 

 

Very cool DYK though, wtg! :

[Kirderf123]

1st article was boring and uneeded. Nuff' said.

 

 

 

2nd article was a bit uninformative. He didn't provide any examples. All he did was describe what a trailblaizer was. What's the point...?

 

 

 

Very cool DYK though, wtg! :

 

He did actualy provide some examples. And whats the point? bring backs old memories and its fun to read, i think everyone will remember themselves doing somewhat the same as he described.

[Gandorf61]

First article was good, although I disagree and prefer the paybycash method as it is the easiest way for me to get my membership.

 

 

 

I really enjoyed the second article and also remember doing many of those same things until I became more efficient. I can't even remember how I found Tip.it, all I know is that it was the first fansite I used and fell in love with their calculators and databases.

 

 

 

Great Did You Know, if I every need a quick supply of free pineapples I'll know where to get them. :)

[strilmus]

Heh, I already knew about the pineapple plants, but it didn't occur to me with the somewhat recent update in farming that I could exploit leprechaun goodwill by noting them. Great idea.

 

 

 

Ah, someday Internet payment will be a bit easier than they do it now. All this overhead is annoying.

 

 

 

I actually went to these kinds of sites pretty fast after hitting a certain maze in Draynor Manor.....it was fun to escort others afterwards for gold. Those days may be over, but still, good times. :D

[firebird308]

...I believe I shall be making use of the DYK in the future. I can't believe I didn't think of doing that on my own. -.-

[P_E_N_N_Y]

TS_Stormrage, I'm afraid that your article failed to interest me even remotely as being from a different country, my payment options are different.

 

 

 

 

 

Thats ok, I knew from the get-go that this article would relate to MAYBE half the readers, I still thought that it should be written and published :)...

 

 

 

Credit/debit card is the best way by far, you stay a member continously until you decide to cancel and the only 'hidden charges' you'd encounter would be interest, which anyone with a credit card would have their own plan already of dealing with, personally i pay mine off every month and pay nothing extra. Banks are also not blind, stupid, or completely unwillingly to protect their customers money from suspicious activity (contrary to popular opinion) it's no more risky giving your details to Jagex than it is losing your prepaid card on the way home or getting mugged.

 

 

 

On the new rates you only save 2 pounds a month using Wallie on a yearly rate over a credit card, so i really don't see how that's the best option, if i get bored for a while i want to be able to not play knowing i'm not wasting money on membership i'm not using, and the author said it himself sometimes you'd have something left over, would it work out the same or more expensive then?

 

 

 

 

Eww.. I just wrote a lengthy reply and then closed it after previewing..

 

:wall:

 

 

 

 

 

Summary:

 

Hidden charges = credit card fees. Here, it's included in the price of subscription.

 

Security issue is not with jagex having your details, it's the transmission. Malicious software can steal your details, and more machines are infected than most people realise. (google botnet statistics, for example)

 

There's no guarantee you'll get your money back. Banks might not their reputation tarnished, but they're equally reluctant to just let go of money.

 

It's actually 2 pounds a year - Credit card = 3.5 per month -> 42 per year. Wallie = 4.5 per month -> 54 per year OR 39.99 per year outright.

 

 

 

Absolutely correct (although in my calculations I used Euro's, and just wait, one day the brits will switch)... Buying with a whole year with Wallie instead of 12 seperate months costs you 12 pounds less then credit card (which can only be bought monthly)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm in a Euro country too, although i still pay in pounds because it's cheaper, i didn't check the wallie prices in euros but in pounds you only save 2 pounds a year instead of using a credit card subscription that you can cancel or re-instate at your leisure. Living in the middle of nowhere i NEED my credit card to get stuff online, so if my details are gonna get stolen, it' not just gonna be because of rs.

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT - oops, i just read that back, i meant to say 2 pounds a year in the first post lol sorry, i was thinking 17 pence a month

[quelmotz]

Both good articles IMO, but I didn't really like the first one. A bit boring. I mean, aren't the articles supposed to be about the game and the community, not membership and other miscellaneous stuff?

[nerdboyxxx]

I didn't talk to the Lumbridge guide when I started, I thought he would attack me like that farmer (I died and lost all my stuff when I started because of that stupid farmer :( :XD:). The second article was great, but the first I can't really comment on, I don't have access to Wallie cards where I live :?

[Lore]

Both good articles IMO, but I didn't really like the first one. A bit boring. I mean, aren't the articles supposed to be about the game and the community, not membership and other miscellaneous stuff?

 

The problem is that the Times has been running long enough, that most articles have been done before, and then people complain that it's a repeat.

 

If you have any original ideas, I'm sure the editorial team would love to hear them :

[Ts_Stormrage]

Yes, please do...

 

 

 

Not only new topics to write about, but new angles on old topics are welcome too :)

[peterbluer]

I suppose this would be a good time to ask this. I ran out of membership about half a year ago, and I'm still looking to get it back. I have a few problems in that I'm from Canada, and I also don't have a credit card or a cell phone, American Express credit card, and I cannot use a house phone.

 

 

 

My remaining options are subscribing by PayPal, subscribing without a credit card(by cash), or by a Jagex Card.

 

I don't have a PayPal account, but I think I could get people I know to subscribe for me. I am not sure how the without a credit card option works, so I don't want to use that until I do. And I don't think any store near me sells Jagex Cards, but I'd have to check on that. So my question is which option should I use? Also, how does the without a credit card option work? Thanks.

 

Oh, and are there any hidden fees on any of these methods?

[ARoseThorn]

I wish there were more options available in Australia. As soon as any of those buy-for-cash-at-the-store thingies is available here i will switch to it.

 

 

 

Meanwhile i use a DEBIT card not a credit card.

 

 

 

Looks and works exactly like a credit card at the point of sale.

 

But it is linked to an account which you keep a LITTLE bit of money in.. and it will only use money that is in that account.

 

 

 

so... i am not racking up interest and fees on a bank loan - which is really what a "credit" card does.

 

 

 

 

 

cheers

[Racheya]

I wish there were more options available in Australia. As soon as any of those buy-for-cash-at-the-store thingies is available here i will switch to it.

 

 

 

Meanwhile i use a DEBIT card not a credit card.

 

 

 

Looks and works exactly like a credit card at the point of sale.

 

But it is linked to an account which you keep a LITTLE bit of money in.. and it will only use money that is in that account.

 

 

 

so... i am not racking up interest and fees on a bank loan - which is really what a "credit" card does.

 

 

 

 

 

cheers

 

That's exactly what I do, I use my debit card I got as soon as I could get a proper bank account, credit cards you do rack up fees but debit cards are great because you can only use what's in there. I have about £4 atm :P

[Niko612]

I found the first article interesting to read but not terribly informative. The second article was like a flashback for me, cus I remember doing the very same things, except for asking the lumby guide cus he didn't exist back then. =D> :thumbsup: for any and all trailblazers.

[Cabbage_Boii]

I've never really noticed how much I spend on memberships. You see i stopped going through the trouble asking my mum for her credit card every time I bought a month subscription. I just walked up to my landline and called from Canada for 11$ a month. I guess all considering I've played for a year and don't plan to stop anytime soon I should really consider buying year subscriptions like you did as I'm not sure we have the prepaid cards in Canada yet.

 

 

 

:thumbup:

[Ts_Stormrage]

I suppose this would be a good time to ask this. I ran out of membership about half a year ago, and I'm still looking to get it back. I have a few problems in that I'm from Canada, and I also don't have a credit card or a cell phone, American Express credit card, and I cannot use a house phone.

 

 

 

My remaining options are subscribing by PayPal, subscribing without a credit card(by cash), or by a Jagex Card.

 

I don't have a PayPal account, but I think I could get people I know to subscribe for me. I am not sure how the without a credit card option works, so I don't want to use that until I do. And I don't think any store near me sells Jagex Cards, but I'd have to check on that. So my question is which option should I use? Also, how does the without a credit card option work? Thanks.

 

Oh, and are there any hidden fees on any of these methods?

 

 

 

I would recommend using Pay By Cash using a debit card... There might be hidden bank fees, but the advantage is that it is only per transaction... meaning if you buy a whoel yars worth, its only added once (instead of 12 times if you buy monthly)...

 

 

 

I wish there were more options available in Australia. As soon as any of those buy-for-cash-at-the-store thingies is available here i will switch to it.

 

 

 

Meanwhile i use a DEBIT card not a credit card.

 

 

 

Looks and works exactly like a credit card at the point of sale.

 

But it is linked to an account which you keep a LITTLE bit of money in.. and it will only use money that is in that account.

 

 

 

so... i am not racking up interest and fees on a bank loan - which is really what a "credit" card does.

 

 

 

cheers

 

That's exactly what I do, I use my debit card I got as soon as I could get a proper bank account, credit cards you do rack up fees but debit cards are great because you can only use what's in there. I have about £4 atm :P

 

 

 

Debit cards are ALWAYS a better option then Credit cards... The difference is; debit cards are cards that you spend your money with, and with credit cards you basicly borrow money to spend and pay it back later...

 

 

 

As for Australian and Canadian RuneScape, Wallie or other voucher cards, I know for Wallie that it is a long term ambition to be available there too... The U.S. however is a different story as they have laws that a foreign financial institution (like a bank) doing business in the U.S. most re-invest at least half its profits in the U.S. (usually the housing market and mortgages)... But there you have RuneScape cards sold (indirectly) by Jagex itself...

 

 

 

Considering there are now RS servers in Brazil (in portugese), India and Singapore, the population in RS is obviously growing and if not that, it is at least diversifying... I hope the payment methods can keep up ;)