First off, this is not about video games them self but about the parent's whining about the kid's playing them and what they should do about it (In my opinion) so please mod's do not move this thread. ;)

 

I am a Teen (Really I am) and I have a friend who is an immigrant from Mexico. (His parents are illegal but he was born hear.) He is not a nice person, and he plays a lot of GTA on his PS2.

 

He is not very mature and just sits there for hours killing cops and banging [garden tools]. I however have no consoles and play other games (Mostly FPS and RTS and TBS games) on my computer. My friend who I speak of got Halo wars for the Xbox 360 and Oh no, He NEVER plays it. He is so ignorant that he doesn't know how to manage anything and gets beat by the AI on EASY. Why you ask? He has never played any games that make him think. He probably would not like Half-life 2 or Civilization 4 or most other games I Bought. (And some torrented ;)) Parents should understand that if you raise a kid right they will know the difference between Right and Wrong.

 

You should also raise the kid around games that make him think and are not just "Die dumb cop/alien/zombie/Nazi" in Half-life there are puzzles and it makes you think. "If I do A then B happens, That B is bad, lets do C, and D will happen. D is good" Say you take my same friend and expose him to half-life, Lara crofts Tomberator (Hot as hell I shall admit) and other puzzle intensive games he would have turned out a lot better. Parents shall also decide if a kid is ready for stuff is little Joey ready to play GTA when he is only six? I think not!

 

 

 

What do you Tip iters think? Please post only CONSTRUCTIVE COMMENTS/OPINIONS

he bangs gardening tools? wouldnt that be a bit uncomfortable?

 

 

 

also, anyone who thinks that video games really have ANY influence over teens to the point where they cant tell right from wrong is an idiot, and its his choice if he wants to play a game that doesnt have puzzles or in some way makes him think- most of those things are pretty much straightford, even their "puzzles" long story short, your friend is an idiot

I know, but it matters. He is not mature enough to distinguish right from wrong. I hope he doesn't end up in prison.

I know, but it matters. He is not mature enough to distinguish right from wrong. I hope he doesn't end up in prison.

 

 

 

Frankly I hope he does. Not being able to distinguish right from wrong is an issue with him, not the game, and it has nothing to do with his age.

This is a really terrible thread.

 

 

 

Also if you have to imply that you're mature (and I know that is what you are doing) you probably are not.

Sorry, but how much GTA have you played?

 

 

 

Okay, I didn't care much for Half Life, and I've probably overplayed GTA.

 

 

 

You're judging the game based on 1 person, not all of us. I've played (and pretty much beat) AoE III (and to an extent AoE II, but I cheated a lot, if I could find my disc, I'd play it without cheating).

 

 

 

I know right from wrong, when I play GTA, I play it to progress through the story, and not kill mindlessly (okay true, I did that on GTA:SA, but I had completed the main storyline anyway).

 

 

 

Personally, I found Half Life overrated, and the puzzles (to where I progressed) were simple.

 

 

 

And really, any parent who complains about their kid playing x game should take it off them, or not have got them it in the first place.

 

 

 

The type of game you play does not make you who you turn into. I've played mostly violent games (CoD4, KZ2, X-Men Origins, GTA IV), yet I've also played those which require a lot of thought (Valkyria Chronicles for example).

 

 

 

These games have no made me into who I am, rather, the people around me have made me who I am.

Dont tell me what to post. :cry:

he bangs gardening tools? wouldnt that be a bit uncomfortable?

 

It depends on what you're banging it on. Concrete will send a reverberation up the handle and that can feel weird, but something like wood probably wouldn't.

I think there's more to it than that. Oh and you're a really pathetic friend.

His parents are illegal and you expect them to teach him right from wrong... As they're breaking the law?

Honestly, he would have turned out the same, even if he had played the magical video game known as Half-Life 2 that grants you a strong moral compass. There is so many things that will affect what you think is right and wrong, and there's no way one video game can completely influence that.

His parents are illegal and you expect them to teach him right from wrong... As they're breaking the law?

 

Don't start with this...right and wrong are defined by moral standards, not by law standards that may or may not been influenced by moral guidelines.

 

 

 

These types of kids piss me off. They ignore the parents hard work and think they were born into royalty; act like "gangsta"s because being ghetto is now a cool thing. :roll:

Personally, I found Half Life overrated, and the puzzles (to where I progressed) were simple.

 

 

 

The puzzles are largely prevalent in the second of the series, which hosts some pretty solid physics based puzzles. Certainly not a puzzle game though.

 

 

 

Oh and you're missing a lot if you didn't even play through all of the game. Of course the first one is much older at this time so you might not be able to get into it. (and I don't think you're too terrible old yourself, right? I don't think you would have played the game on launch like I did). The second one might be more interesting to you because it is more "modern" but make no mistake, Half Life still tells a story better than any of these modern FPS's and has much better pacing than most of them out today.

 

 

 

But aren't you the guy who thought Haze was a good game? I mean how can someone trust your opinion then? :P

His parents are illegal and you expect them to teach him right from wrong... As they're breaking the law?

 

These types of kids piss me off. They ignore the parents hard work and think they were born into royalty; act like "gangsta"s because being ghetto is now a cool thing. :roll:

Yes, I agree.

Hahahahaha you think he'll end up in prison because he plays a videogame. That's so cute. Are you twelve or something? Because guess what: being twelve sucks. And if you keep thinking, "Hey, these kids are so immature!" you're going to have no friends. Nobody likes that kid.

 

 

 

Wait, what just happened? I started a rant, that's what. Anyways, who gives a [cabbage], he's playing a videogame. If you really live in Salem, and he's really got illegal immigrant parents, odds are they teach him between right and wrong a helluva lot more actively than your parents. I guess I know too many illegals, and that makes my view a little bit skewed, but their parents really teach them as good as they can. And a lot of the time, the kids don't listen. Most of the second-generation kids I know act like total thugs everywhere else, get home, and they're little angels. Kinda wierd.

 

 

 

Just chill out bro. There's no such thing as mature, anyways. You know the old guys in Secondhand Lions (one of the best movies EVER)? Would you call them mature? Probably not. Awesome? CHYES.

 

 

 

I'm disappointed in riku, since he should know better about illegals (don't you live in San Antonio?). Nick's pretty much right. Half of their parents are lawn workers, but they provide for their families, which is more than I can say for some of the 14-year olds having kids. Although there is a bonus to that: spontaneous stroller races.

Personally, I found Half Life overrated, and the puzzles (to where I progressed) were simple.

 

 

 

The puzzles are largely prevalent in the second of the series, which hosts some pretty solid physics based puzzles. Certainly not a puzzle game though.

 

 

 

Oh and you're missing a lot if you didn't even play through all of the game. Of course the first one is much older at this time so you might not be able to get into it. (and I don't think you're too terrible old yourself, right? I don't think you would have played the game on launch like I did). The second one might be more interesting to you because it is more "modern" but make no mistake, Half Life still tells a story better than any of these modern FPS's and has much better pacing than most of them out today.

 

 

 

But aren't you the guy who thought Haze was a good game? I mean how can someone trust your opinion then? :P

 

 

 

Yeah, I did think Haze was pretty good.

 

 

 

While the game did have its faults, it was still enjoyable, if it did get too simple. (Anyone on Mantel had the upper hand because of nectar, what could the rebels do? Roll and play dead) The main problem was it lose my friggin' online data, and when I saw it was reset, I went to try get 100% (or close to it at least) accuracy, only for it to not record it.

 

 

 

I've tried to get into the Half Life series a few times (Orange Box on PS3), and while it was a somewhat decent game, I just couldn't get into it. However, I would say it was a pretty interesting game, was probably just too complex for the PS3.

 

 

 

Oh, and it was Half Life 2 I played, didn't really enjoy it. Should probably try to play the original at some point.

You could learn that kind of thing from shooters too. After getting your [wagon] handed to you in CoD/Halo/etc, you'll start to wonder what you should do differently. You try that, it works, you keep it in mind for the next time something like that happens.

 

 

 

Plus the opposite could happen in puzzle games. You get stuck, try everything, then rush to the internet to find the answer.

If you're naive enough to think the problem lies with GTA, rather then the childs up-bringing, then I feel sorry for you.

 

 

 

Whether he plays HL2 or GTA, it makes no difference what-so-ever, trust me.

 

 

 

This thread is a bit [cabbage] really, the point doesn't make any sense and it isn't easily backed up. Roll on the flame/rage/spam/rant/ego war :)

 

 

 

EDIT: also, I thought about what you said about playing HL2 because of the puzzles, helping his mind etc?

 

 

 

I bought HL2 in 2004, I would have been 11. I completed the game in around 4 - 5 hours, first time on moderate. There is no mental challenge here, at all. If you think a child needs a mental challenge and stimulation, you send him to school or pay for a private tutor. Or at home, you give him a cross word puzzle, a book, [bleep] - the tv will do more than HL2 will.

 

 

 

You say he's ignorant? I think YOU'RE ignorant, VERY.

Hate to be a buzzkill but I think this thread is just going to turn into everyone reiterating the same points ad-nauseum. Everything that needs to be said has been said and it's pretty much gonna descend into a flamefest from what I've read of the above posts.

 

 

 

If you have any problems, PM me. Consider this locked.