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03-Dec-2009 - The Temple at Senntisten


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So these deflect prayers are some sort of protect prayers with a vengence/recoil system built into it?

I guess I will ask first XD, does anybody know how much percentage do they reflect?
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Appears most of these prayers are 'useless' for PvM. The only one that might be worth using for things is Turmoil, for other's just use the normal 15% prayers or piety.

The deflect prayers are good however not worth losing 10-5% attack boost for (for the normal boosting prayers).

Oh, Turmoil is useless against bosses as it can't be used alongside the reflect prayers. :unsure:

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Spoiler / Plot Information. ;)





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Spoiler / Plot Information. ;)





I wonder what that snake says about all this (the one that is garding the tears of guithix.

Jesus Christ, can't you just admit that you're wrong? :rolleyes:

Cause I'm not wrong.


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Appears most of these prayers are 'useless' for PvM. The only one that might be worth using for things is Turmoil, for other's just use the normal 15% prayers or piety.

The deflect prayers are good however not worth losing 10-5% attack boost for (for the normal boosting prayers).

Oh, Turmoil is useless against bosses as it can't be used alongside the reflect prayers. :unsure:

Aha, finally someone fully reads the thing. Saw other people drooling on combined saps+ leeches + deflects + turmoil or whatever, not gonna happen...

Anyway, is this altar easily reachable? Seems annoying that you have to drink ppots all the time when you are on that spell (going on a normal altar like at your house would reset you to normal prayers).

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Altar isn't too hard to reach with a digsite pendant; also, when recharging prayer at house altar, you get asked if you want to switch back to normal prayers or not.

Btw, if I read correctly during the quest, shouldnt removing the item from barrows stop the prayer drain there? Has anyone tested that yet? Or did I just read wrong <_<
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I'm home now time to get cracking!

New prayers sounds awesome good job jagex!
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All of those prayers are geared towards meleers. Sigh...

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Appears most of these prayers are 'useless' for PvM. The only one that might be worth using for things is Turmoil, for other's just use the normal 15% prayers or piety.

The deflect prayers are good however not worth losing 10-5% attack boost for (for the normal boosting prayers).

Oh, Turmoil is useless against bosses as it can't be used alongside the reflect prayers. :unsure:

Aha, finally someone fully reads the thing. Saw other people drooling on combined saps+ leeches + deflects + turmoil or whatever, not gonna happen...

Anyway, is this altar easily reachable? Seems annoying that you have to drink ppots all the time when you are on that spell (going on a normal altar like at your house would reset you to normal prayers).


I've fully read the whole thing, and nowhere does it state whether the sap or leech prayers work in PvM, the only comment is that the deflect prayers work in the same way as normal protect and are therefore 100% effective in PvM but only 60% effective in PvP.

I assume that DarkDude has actually gone and tested whether the new prayers have any effect in PvM...

No surprise that they don't though.
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Well the point of piety is to give a hefty defense bonus and deal some extra damage with your boosted stats. If you can leech the boss and the damage from the deflect prayers are decent, it may rival the normal prayer book.
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Appears most of these prayers are 'useless' for PvM. The only one that might be worth using for things is Turmoil, for other's just use the normal 15% prayers or piety.

The deflect prayers are good however not worth losing 10-5% attack boost for (for the normal boosting prayers).

Oh, Turmoil is useless against bosses as it can't be used alongside the reflect prayers. :unsure:

Aha, finally someone fully reads the thing. Saw other people drooling on combined saps+ leeches + deflects + turmoil or whatever, not gonna happen...

Anyway, is this altar easily reachable? Seems annoying that you have to drink ppots all the time when you are on that spell (going on a normal altar like at your house would reset you to normal prayers).


I've fully read the whole thing, and nowhere does it state whether the sap or leech prayers work in PvM, the only comment is that the deflect prayers work in the same way as normal protect and are therefore 100% effective in PvM but only 60% effective in PvP.

I assume that DarkDude has actually gone and tested whether the new prayers have any effect in PvM...

No surprise that they don't though.

I was talking about the fact that you can't use turmoil together with deflect prayers. Kind of like smiting can't be used with protect prayers.

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Just tried out the deflect prayers at sc. They seem pretty good.

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Just read you CAN use turmoil and deflect at the same time. Deflect seems a bit useless in pvm though, since they fully protect you against that style, so no damage will be deflected, right?

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Nice storyline development, well written, and fairly difficult.

0/10. I hate waterfiends with a bloodthirsty passion and any quest that forces me to work through them gets a 0. Die waterfiends die; I hate you more than anything on God's green earth.
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Just read you CAN use turmoil and deflect at the same time. Deflect seems a bit useless in pvm though, since they fully protect you against that style, so no damage will be deflected, right?


That is what I am wondering about too, somebody want to test it out? Can you deflect even if you are not been hurt?
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Just read you CAN use turmoil and deflect at the same time. Deflect seems a bit useless in pvm though, since they fully protect you against that style, so no damage will be deflected, right?


According to the KB you can't.

As I said, it APPEARS they are fairly useless, it depends entirely on the drain rate along with how much damage reflects back. If reflect + leech prayers don't use too much prayer AND a decent amount of damage is reflected back then it'll probably be worth doing, however I see turmoil as useless in PvM unless you're using it on normal monsters, but I imagine it has a huge drain rate.

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and apperantly someone tested deflect and it drains a bit slower than the normal protection prayers.

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Turmoil may be useful in Corping and Zam Gwd I think. With a huge mass protect prayer is not really that needed, and Kril does not have an AOE attack, then again somebody need to test this out. :P
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Just read you CAN use turmoil and deflect at the same time. Deflect seems a bit useless in pvm though, since they fully protect you against that style, so no damage will be deflected, right?


According to the KB you can't.

As I said, it APPEARS they are fairly useless, it depends entirely on the drain rate along with how much damage reflects back. If reflect + leech prayers don't use too much prayer AND a decent amount of damage is reflected back then it'll probably be worth doing, however I see turmoil as useless in PvM unless you're using it on normal monsters, but I imagine it has a huge drain rate.

I've heard from different sources now that you can.

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i've been doing a few barrows runs using deflect, and it does deflect, but highest i've seen is 4 so far and its not very common.


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