Why Runescape needs instanced bosses.

[xSxqPowerx]

Also need to remember that instancing bosses would MASSIVELY increase the amount of rare drops coming into the game, and degrade prices of high-end items.

That said, something needs to be done.

[howbadisbad]

Also need to remember that instancing bosses would MASSIVELY increase the amount of rare drops coming into the game, and degrade prices of high-end items.

That said, something needs to be done.

 

That would make said items available to players with the minimum stats needed to wield them = Better

 

How many people with 65 def can afford bandos? Not many.

 

This sets the stage for high level UNTRADEABLE armor and weapons which would make the game more awesome because people would have to be around the level required to kill the boss to get the gear, instead of camping chins or whatever people do for cash these days.

[xSxqPowerx]

That would be fine if higher level items did exist, but since bandos is the current high end armour degrading it would simply cause everyone to have the same (best) gear - frustrating for those with higher levels and stats. It would also ruin a popular money making method (killing bosses).

[Fellfrosch6]

Hmmm guess it doesn't like the link due to the commas well if you don't mind finding it yourself it is in the Suggestions - Area and Achievement Diary part of the forums and called MMH Suggests - Deepstone Keep. It is on page 22.

 

Reading MMH's suggestion only makes me think of one single thing: The Fremmy guarded island with a RUINED KEEP on it in East Wilderness and North of Slayer Tower. Does that sound like the Deepstone Keep described by MMH??

 

I think there's a lot of evidence pointing to that Jagex actually decided to work MMH's suggestion into the game. (I mean...he is a Jagex employee afterall!) I can't find the Wilderness Castle thread but I'm sure upon further comparison between those screenshots and MMH's descriptions, we'll find many parallels.

 

Perhaps Jagex is working instanced boss fights into the game and MMH's suggestion is how they're doing it?

[Albel]

Could not agree more. I am not even close to maxed combat, and I barley have the stats needed for godwars; but I know a lot of people who run into crashers and it can be very annoying. I have a sneaky feeling that this will be a update for this year, and of not then mabey next year for sure.

[Zachneap]

Hmmm guess it doesn't like the link due to the commas well if you don't mind finding it yourself it is in the Suggestions - Area and Achievement Diary part of the forums and called MMH Suggests - Deepstone Keep. It is on page 22.

 

Reading MMH's suggestion only makes me think of one single thing: The Fremmy guarded island with a RUINED KEEP on it in East Wilderness and North of Slayer Tower. Does that sound like the Deepstone Keep described by MMH??

 

I think there's a lot of evidence pointing to that Jagex actually decided to work MMH's suggestion into the game. (I mean...he is a Jagex employee afterall!) I can't find the Wilderness Castle thread but I'm sure upon further comparison between those screenshots and MMH's descriptions, we'll find many parallels.

 

Perhaps Jagex is working instanced boss fights into the game and MMH's suggestion is how they're doing it?

but his suggestion was never finished.

[Ed_Warrior]

Hmmm guess it doesn't like the link due to the commas well if you don't mind finding it yourself it is in the Suggestions - Area and Achievement Diary part of the forums and called MMH Suggests - Deepstone Keep. It is on page 22.

 

Reading MMH's suggestion only makes me think of one single thing: The Fremmy guarded island with a RUINED KEEP on it in East Wilderness and North of Slayer Tower. Does that sound like the Deepstone Keep described by MMH??

 

I think there's a lot of evidence pointing to that Jagex actually decided to work MMH's suggestion into the game. (I mean...he is a Jagex employee afterall!) I can't find the Wilderness Castle thread but I'm sure upon further comparison between those screenshots and MMH's descriptions, we'll find many parallels.

 

Perhaps Jagex is working instanced boss fights into the game and MMH's suggestion is how they're doing it?

but his suggestion was never finished.

Yeah unfortunately after the release of the mysterious castle he confirmed that the castle was not Deepstone Keep and that was about it.

[Fellfrosch6]

Hmmm guess it doesn't like the link due to the commas well if you don't mind finding it yourself it is in the Suggestions - Area and Achievement Diary part of the forums and called MMH Suggests - Deepstone Keep. It is on page 22.

 

Reading MMH's suggestion only makes me think of one single thing: The Fremmy guarded island with a RUINED KEEP on it in East Wilderness and North of Slayer Tower. Does that sound like the Deepstone Keep described by MMH??

 

I think there's a lot of evidence pointing to that Jagex actually decided to work MMH's suggestion into the game. (I mean...he is a Jagex employee afterall!) I can't find the Wilderness Castle thread but I'm sure upon further comparison between those screenshots and MMH's descriptions, we'll find many parallels.

 

Perhaps Jagex is working instanced boss fights into the game and MMH's suggestion is how they're doing it?

but his suggestion was never finished.

Yeah unfortunately after the release of the mysterious castle he confirmed that the castle was not Deepstone Keep and that was about it.

 

That's unfortunate. I do hope he's lying because his idea was fantastically fleshed out! Something I'd love to play!

[Mischlings]

I think that the best way to fix this mess would be the rework some of the older bosses so that their drops are worthwhile again (something like giving the KQ claws -- much more difficult to solo than TDs and probably wouldn't cause more of a price drop than an initial panic). Really, GWD, corp, TDs, and DKs are the only "bosses" that people seem to fight for real profit on a regular basis -- give the KQ, CE, and KBD more reason to be fought and it'll thin out a bit.

 

I'm not saying that my exact idea should be used because I haven't really thought out exactly how much of an impact it would have on the market for those items, but something like that should be done. These bosses aren't being fought for the simple fact that they're not worth the time -- just worth doing for the fun factor.

[Lugia_Lvl138]

I for one would probably solo KQ a bit if it dropped Claws. But even if the drop rate isn't that great, it would probably cause tons of panic sellers simply because KQ doesn't require WGS.

[Robert_R]

I for one would probably solo KQ a bit if it dropped Claws. But even if the drop rate isn't that great, it would probably cause tons of panic sellers simply because KQ doesn't require WGS.

Probably but panic crashes hardly last a long time. It would be nice if they made the older bosses worth killing again though. I really wish they would make the chaos elemental drop something to make it worth killing, it's actually not that easy of a boss to camp.

[Narcadius]

I think that the best way to fix this mess would be the rework some of the older bosses so that their drops are worthwhile again (something like giving the KQ claws -- much more difficult to solo than TDs and probably wouldn't cause more of a price drop than an initial panic). Really, GWD, corp, TDs, and DKs are the only "bosses" that people seem to fight for real profit on a regular basis -- give the KQ, CE, and KBD more reason to be fought and it'll thin out a bit.

 

I'm not saying that my exact idea should be used because I haven't really thought out exactly how much of an impact it would have on the market for those items, but something like that should be done. These bosses aren't being fought for the simple fact that they're not worth the time -- just worth doing for the fun factor.

This.

My friends and I went to KQ a few days ago after going to TDs simply because it was something different and fun, but it got bored extremely fast. It wasn't hard at all with three or even two people, so if something like this was implemented I think they would also have to make the bosses of yesterday harder due to the power creep and supplies that we have at our disposal today.

[stonewall337]

I for one would probably solo KQ a bit if it dropped Claws. But even if the drop rate isn't that great, it would probably cause tons of panic sellers simply because KQ doesn't require WGS.

Probably but panic crashes hardly last a long time. It would be nice if they made the older bosses worth killing again though. I really wish they would make the chaos elemental drop something to make it worth killing, it's actually not that easy of a boss to camp.

 

Only because of the revs. Last time I killed, I took 3 damage.

[Patr1ck]

I like the idea of expanding the droptables of older bosses. I think it'd be pretty cool if they dropped special untradeable items and gear to make them different than newer bosses.

[Robert_R]

I for one would probably solo KQ a bit if it dropped Claws. But even if the drop rate isn't that great, it would probably cause tons of panic sellers simply because KQ doesn't require WGS.

Probably but panic crashes hardly last a long time. It would be nice if they made the older bosses worth killing again though. I really wish they would make the chaos elemental drop something to make it worth killing, it's actually not that easy of a boss to camp.

 

Only because of the revs. Last time I killed, I took 3 damage.

Ya that's what I meant by not easy to camp. You have to hope for no revs to camp the chaos elemental otherwise you'll end up eating a lot of your food trying to kill the rev.

[Mischlings]

I think that the best way to fix this mess would be the rework some of the older bosses so that their drops are worthwhile again (something like giving the KQ claws -- much more difficult to solo than TDs and probably wouldn't cause more of a price drop than an initial panic). Really, GWD, corp, TDs, and DKs are the only "bosses" that people seem to fight for real profit on a regular basis -- give the KQ, CE, and KBD more reason to be fought and it'll thin out a bit.

 

I'm not saying that my exact idea should be used because I haven't really thought out exactly how much of an impact it would have on the market for those items, but something like that should be done. These bosses aren't being fought for the simple fact that they're not worth the time -- just worth doing for the fun factor.

This.

My friends and I went to KQ a few days ago after going to TDs simply because it was something different and fun, but it got bored extremely fast. It wasn't hard at all with three or even two people, so if something like this was implemented I think they would also have to make the bosses of yesterday harder due to the power creep and supplies that we have at our disposal today.

 

They might have to give the KQ a boost in power or just make an additional drop really rare in order to make it not an overpowered source of money that won't destroy the economy of an item. See, if the D2H was ever worth something or the D chain was still worth something, then the KQ would be a good boss to fight.

 

Like I said in my post, I don't necessarily recommend giving the KQ claws as a possible drop -- it was just a suggestion. Giving the KBD the visage in its drop table was a step in the right direction, but we need a little more than just a step.

 

I also think that the CE was a wasted boss monster, so to speak. It's a prototype of a difficult boss that you need tactics to fight, stuck in the middle of the wilderness where it can be quite dangerous, but the drops are just so worthless that it's not worth the effort.

 

As for untradeable weapons or armour -- possibly, though I would make it some of the secondary equipment -- not plates, legs, or helmets, but instead make it like amulets, rings, gloves, etc. The difficulty would be doing this in a way that wouldn't make the current bosses obsolete. It'd take a lot of balancing, but I think reworking the old bosses is the best method. How exactly to do that is a job best done by someone else.

[Obtaurian]

In its defense, the Chaos Elemental is probably the most fun boss monster to solo in Runescape, but only if a team of rev knights show up. :wink:

[Robert_R]

In its defense, the Chaos Elemental is probably the most fun boss monster to solo in Runescape, but only if a team of rev knights show up. :wink:

Ya if they were only gonna rework one monster to make it worth killing and had a poll for it I'd definitely pick the chaos elemental.

[toast647]

I agree. Every time I've been to GWD I've spent the majority of my time looking for worlds, then the rest of the time worrying about that team right outside the door.

thats why I honestly prefer DKs now, not to mention tribrid dks is funner then any GWD boss but solo sara and arma IMO

 

Take me DKing with you. :pray:

 

I'm down for some DKing sometime this week :thumbup:

[Zachneap]

In its defense, the Chaos Elemental is probably the most fun boss monster to solo in Runescape, but only if a team of rev knights show up. :wink:

Ya if they were only gonna rework one monster to make it worth killing and had a poll for it I'd definitely pick the chaos elemental.

firstly they'd need to remove the ability to cannon it...

 

5 cannons = dead chaos elemental and dead revs.

 

and adding instanced bosses is just a step... imo the entire concept needs reworking. we need bosses who require different tactics to fight.

 

like a boss who you can't eat or use a potion on... or a boss where your skills are capped at 60 and lose levels for every kill you get.

or a boss who can only be harmed if two elemental spells hit him at once removing some sort of shield.

[Mischlings]

In its defense, the Chaos Elemental is probably the most fun boss monster to solo in Runescape, but only if a team of rev knights show up. :wink:

Ya if they were only gonna rework one monster to make it worth killing and had a poll for it I'd definitely pick the chaos elemental.

firstly they'd need to remove the ability to cannon it...

 

5 cannons = dead chaos elemental and dead revs.

 

and adding instanced bosses is just a step... imo the entire concept needs reworking. we need bosses who require different tactics to fight.

 

like a boss who you can't eat or use a potion on... or a boss where your skills are capped at 60 and lose levels for every kill you get.

or a boss who can only be harmed if two elemental spells hit him at once removing some sort of shield.

 

Let's make some sort of boss fight similar to the way you killed the Spirit Beast in Summer's End. You need to do something like that in order to weaken it enough to do damage -- similar to taking down the shield against Tormented Demons. Let's make a boss like Nomad, just who doesn't call his attacks as obviously. Really, if they can make a large number of bosses that all have similar earning rates, it'll spread the people out. If it will come down to personal choice more so than this is the best for money (I love killing Tormented Demons regardless of the money, but I know a lot of people will go there just because it's 2-3 million an hour without needing insane stats) then people should be spread out pretty well.

 

I hope that made sense.

[blakdragon39]

Completely agree. Runescape needs a lot of things this is near the top of the list. Along with untradable weapons and armour for max players

 

I couldnt agree more with this one, something that can't be bought but has to be earned through pure determination.

 

I also agree. I'm not much of a boss hunter, nor are any of my skills all that high at all (compared to what seems to the norm these days..) but I would LOVE the opportunity to earn my own armour, better than anything I could buy off the GE. Slayer would be a perfect way to implement that, I think. As well as maybe an addition to mining and smithing, or crafting. There are many possibilities. :D Just so long as the whiners don't whine about how it's "tooo haarrrddd", and they have every right to the armour like everyone else does, why can't they buy it!! I only see a slim chance of Jagex giving in to that though, at least in this case. :P

[Tim]

Completely agree. Runescape needs a lot of things this is near the top of the list. Along with untradable weapons and armour for max players

So long as I can get it for free with my 99 Defence (or within reasonable price), I would bow to you for a week. (minus Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner)

[Nifflin]

I think that the best way to fix this mess would be the rework some of the older bosses so that their drops are worthwhile again (something like giving the KQ claws -- much more difficult to solo than TDs and probably wouldn't cause more of a price drop than an initial panic). Really, GWD, corp, TDs, and DKs are the only "bosses" that people seem to fight for real profit on a regular basis -- give the KQ, CE, and KBD more reason to be fought and it'll thin out a bit.

 

 

This. It will kill two birds with one stone. Something needs to be done with these bosses, currently they are decent features but are outstripped by everything else. KQ, CE, KBD and the Mole need modern drop tables which correspond with the difficulty in killing them.

[Mazhar]

Probably but panic crashes hardly last a long time. It would be nice if they made the older bosses worth killing again though. I really wish they would make the chaos elemental drop something to make it worth killing, it's actually not that easy of a boss to camp.

I killed it w/o using any food while attacking it with a meat tenderizer, it's pretty easy lol