When you see it.....

Must be for front impact safety :P

http://winnipeg.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-trucks-1993-Honda-Civic-Coupe-SAFTIED-W0QQAdIdZ318935932

 

Would this make a good cheap car? The only alternatives at this price are a sunfire or cavalier, and I've heard bad things about them once they're past 200k.

 

If you don't want to follow the link, it's an automatic '93 Civic coupe with 200k on it. It's saftied and comes with 17" wheels and winter tires. They have it listed at $2,500, which I could afford now (Although I can't even drive till December)

 

Also, any tips on buying used cars from people? What kind of paperwork do you need to fill out?

Personally i would never buy a car that's over 75k KM. I don't think a car with 200k on it would be a great buy.

 

Question: I've got some money saved up and thought i might use it to buy a car when i get to the US. I'll probably get a previously-owned car. If i were to look at something like a Mustang or a Dodge Charger, what would be a good year and good mileage? Is it even worth buying them previously-owned? I know it might sound like a silly question, but here in Qatar most people only buy muscle for one purpose and after about 15k km the engine is [bleep]ed because they'll only shift gears once it's in the red. So the car pretty much takes a beating.

http://winnipeg.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-trucks-1993-Honda-Civic-Coupe-SAFTIED-W0QQAdIdZ318935932

 

Would this make a good cheap car? The only alternatives at this price are a sunfire or cavalier, and I've heard bad things about them once they're past 200k.

 

If you don't want to follow the link, it's an automatic '93 Civic coupe with 200k on it. It's saftied and comes with 17" wheels and winter tires. They have it listed at $2,500, which I could afford now (Although I can't even drive till December)

 

Also, any tips on buying used cars from people? What kind of paperwork do you need to fill out?

Personally i would never buy a car that's over 75k KM. I don't think a car with 200k on it would be a great buy.

 

 

Depends if the car had good care. I would not go under the year 2000 for cas, but my 2002 Echo toyota has almost 300k KM and I only have put $300 CAD in repairs on it this year. I bought it from my parents, and they want it back when I buy a brand new car in a couple years. They didn't think the car would last that long, and I've had it for 3 years now. They're probably going to give me the full amount I paid for it too!

Just got my first car:

 

 

2000 Subaru Legacy L Wagon, 5 speed manual. Certainly not my first choice, but considering how difficult it is to find a half decent low mileage used Subaru here... it's wonderful.

Just got my first car:

 

 

2000 Subaru Legacy L Wagon, 5 speed manual. Certainly not my first choice, but considering how difficult it is to find a half decent low mileage used Subaru here... it's wonderful.

Can't be too picky with your first car eh :P

 

Looks like I'm finally getting insurance so I can get my full license.

Nice buru. Same year as mine too. Mine is way more shiny and has mags tho lol

Just got my first car:

 

 

2000 Subaru Legacy L Wagon, 5 speed manual. Certainly not my first choice, but considering how difficult it is to find a half decent low mileage used Subaru here... it's wonderful.

 

I'll take a manual 4WD station wagon over my automatic Audi A6 any day.

What of A6 do you have?

I assume you are asking year.

 

It's a 1996.

Sorry I meant which type? Like sedan, station wagon, quattro, 2.4, 2.6, 2.8?

2.8 V6 Quattro sedan

MFW i have1k saved so far and i'm looking around for mk1 mr2's and ae86's, although i doubt i'll be able to afford the latter.

Those are my children targets. Please blur the horse.

 

And MR2: good choice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jr-iYAtpWMJust take it, take it all, all of my money.

 

This is basically what my car looks like. 1989 Honda Prelude. Bought it for $1100, lol. It has plenty of problems but it keeps on going...

The GT-86 is no better than an S2000. In fact, it's worse. I'd imagine a skidpad of less than .90g and 700ft slalom of no better than 69mph. If that's the case, then the only advantage this thing has over the S2000 is that it has 2 rear "seats" and more trunk space.

ohboyherewego

 

I was just about to post about the 86 to see if anyone was interested. You're missing the point from the beginning on the philosophy of this car. It's not made to look impressive on paper at all, It's made to be a barebones miata like sports car, but most importantly, a CHEAP sports car. Don't get me wrong, I think the S2000 is a masterpiece and it's one of the cars the 86 was benchmarked against, but it will at least match it for much less money and more practicality.

 

Cheap

Practical

Lightweight for it's time

Just powerful enough(tired of the hurrr durr moar power talk going around, 200 hp is more than enough for this car...)

 

Honestly i think it will be greeted with open arms and form a cult following similar to the Corolla GTS, which is what tada san wanted.

 

Ofcourse you'll have to add that with the drift kids here in america due to the scion badging, but hey that's only a plus, the more cars out there, the more will funnel down into used markets for broke penny scrapers such as myself.

 

also, although the S2000 doesn't fall into this catagory, this article has so much truth on what the american sports market has become and how this may shake it up a bit for the better.

 

Yes' date=' Toyota and Subaru can save driving

 

Lulled into stupor by your in-car DVD player and automatic butt massagers, you may not have noticed, but cars have gotten really, really boring in the last two decades. Sure, they're faster than ever a 2011 Toyota Camry makes 21 more horsepower than a 1991 Porsche 911 they're safer than ever and they're more luxurious than ever. But all the above have removed the whole purpose of cars: The driving itself. But change could now be on the horizon. Could a new product from the most beige of automakers forever restore the driver to his rightful place?

 

And I really do mean cars have gotten boring. Even equipped with a weekly rotation of the newest, most exciting cars on the planet and regular jaunts around the world to drive them on race tracks, I left as Jalopnik's road test editor last year, departing for the more involved climes of motorcycles. There simply wasn't a car on the market that was any longer capable of holding my interest; not when I could swap my driving shoes for a leather suit and actually be allowed to control a fast vehicle using only skill and physical inputs.

 

Don't believe me? Go bounce off the top speed governor of a CTS-V on the road. Rather than some feat of ridiculous human prowess, you just mash the pedal and point away from trees. Go drive an SLS AMG around Laguna Seca or, rather, sit along for the ride while the automatic transmission and undefeatable stability control do it for you. Hell, you can set lap records in a Porsche 911 GT3 RS all day long without really trying.

 

But that all changed a week ago when I walked into the reveal of the Scion FR-S here in Hollywood. The car in front of me wasn't about bullshit numbers that translate into very little experience. It wasn't about features and it wasn't about image. It's not designed to perfectly accentuate Mr. Bluetooth Earpiece's striped shirt or make Sally Homemaker feel rugged. Unlike literally every other car on the market in 2011, it's made to do one thing and one thing only. It's made to be driven.

 

There's been some [bleep']ing in Jalop circles that the Scion FR-S/Toyota GT 86 and its Subaru BRZ cousin don't make headline-grabbing power figures. To them, I say, who cares? I've driven the most powerful cars on the planet and been bored to tears doing so. The problem is, that with ridiculous power, comes ridiculous liability.

 

No automaker is free to allow mere mortals to exploit a 556 HP luxury car without intervention. And I'm not talking about just the electronic kind. Chassis on those cars are tuned for safety, not driver involvement. Stability at high speeds, not agility in tight corners. The hugely wide and extremely low-profile tires needed to put that power to the road grip like hell, but utterly refuse to slide in a controllable manner. Where's the fun when you only have two choices on the menu: grip or spin?

 

In fact, the whole concept that speed somehow correlates with what we want to do as drivers is completely erroneous. I'm not in this to read some number off a dashboard, I drive cars and ride bikes to develop new skills, then practice them. I drive to participate in a landscape and, occasionally, to scare myself.

 

The best driver's car I've ever owned was a BMW that weighed 2,813 Lbs and made 167 HP. The Scionotabaru weighs 2,689 Lbs and makes 197 HP. That's plenty for me. That I'll be able to drive it without playing into the ideas that our midwestern and southern readers probably have about me and my skinny jeans and that I'll be able to carry luggage and occasionally some buddies in the back seats just makes it that much better.

 

To put those numbers in perspective, a current BMW M3 weighs 3,704 Lbs. Over 1,000 more than the Subionta. Where's the fun in that?

 

That the GT 86/86/FR-S/BRZ was able to get down to such a svelte weight without the use of exotic materials is indicative of its appeal. It doesn't need a carbon fiber roof or magnesium wheels or drillium pedals in order to perform. Which means you'll be able to make it perform for just $24,000. That's less than a VW Golf TDI. You can afford this car. You can afford to crash this car and you can afford to repair it. That means you can afford to really, really drive it. Hard. You can afford to modify it. You'll probably be able to do the maintenance yourself, in your driveway.

 

When I walked into that FR-S unveil I saw a car that was small, a car that was practical, a car that was unassuming, a car that was RWD, has a manual transmission, a light weight and perfect weight distribution. I saw a car that I wanted, badly. For the first time in a long time.

 

I'm planning on buying a BRZ. How about you?

 

Quoted from Jalopnik

He sounds like an idiot to me.

Jalopnik? They have fun stuff to read but none of it should be taken too seriously. I intend on test driving a BR-Z/FR-S when it's out in the states. Hopefully the guy will see that I have an ITR, know what I'm doing, and let me take it to an empty lot to have some fun.

 

The reason I dislike this car is because it doesn't bring anything new (just like the LFA). It's supposed to be like a Miata. Okay. But the lbs per HP between the two cars is less than a lb. I'm not complaining so much about power as I am complaining about the same thing that's been on the market but in a different shell and (most likely) worse performance ratings (talking about the S2000).

Jalopnik? They have fun stuff to read but none of it should be taken too seriously. I intend on test driving a BR-Z/FR-S when it's out in the states. Hopefully the guy will see that I have an ITR, know what I'm doing, and let me take it to an empty lot to have some fun.

 

The reason I dislike this car is because it doesn't bring anything new (just like the LFA). It's supposed to be like a Miata. Okay. But the lbs per HP between the two cars is less than a lb. I'm not complaining so much about power as I am complaining about the same thing that's been on the market but in a different shell and (most likely) worse performance ratings (talking about the S2000).

Cheaper, more practical shell. It's what people have wanted, after all, look at your ITR, it has all those things but in a RWD package. Those who prefer RWD don't have many choices in that category, they're all expensive, 2 door coupe/convertibles, or have poor handling and feel. No there isn't anything that's truly new so to speak, but that's not the point, the point is to bring back things that made cars like the corolla gts lovable. The miata did that a long time ago when they based it off older british roadsters, and people love it.

 

as for jalopnik, I normally don't care about anything that comes from that site... but that quote really hit a few nails.

 

here's a better idea of what jalopnik said

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4DJtHYEfos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO8lOjqhLJQ&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

 

 

 

 

lol gl having any sort of "fun" with these cars after salesmen are scared crazy by the drift bro kiddies attempting hektik skids on the streets during test drives...

 

Meh.

Meh.

u mad jelly butthurt cause no new s2000 or any other honda with high potential?

Hmm.... someone's selling an ae86 for 600 bucks...

 

not sure if i should waste my time going to see if its legit

Probably is legit, but when someone sells a car for so low around here, it usually has over $10 000 in repairs to do with it.

Meh.

u mad jelly butthurt cause no new s2000 or any other honda with high potential?

Wait for the NSX successor.

 

And yah, I butthurt. Still think this thing is going to flop as hard as the Genesis Coupe.