Why I Play Runescape

[Cat_Spaseman]

the simplification of pixel as holding no value, reduces the argument in a form that renders it of little use: pixels are time. time is definitely involved in the real world, runescape is definitely part of your real world. You spend your time playing runescape where you do not perform other activities. Why do you choose to play runescape? because it's more enjoyable than your real life at certain times.

 

That's a brutal truth to accept, not a relative truth you can simply deny.

 

Accepting that virtual reality fulfills your need for entertainment in your spare time better than reality, that is the basic reason for why you play runescape, not the profundity of creation. Creation is the manifestation in which you subvert your attention to virtual reality; the means to an end. (you could say the same for reading a book, or watching tv)

 

The original poster is right in saying that we can all create our own personal reasons for playing runescape. However, it all boils down "rejecting reality and substituting your own" in the words of a certain mythbuster.

 

Rejecting the reality of the current time and substituting one's own ideas in the great mass of extant concepts - that is creation. I don't see the difference, really. You still create new rules, and the whole experience may be a creation in itself - memories

[Atroxide]

I have played 182 days according to my log, and thats in the 7+ years i have played runescape.

 

182 days of the average 27375 days that people live.

 

Who cares.. thats not even 1% of my life.

 

If I find joy in the game, hell I am going to play it.

[tortilliachp]

the simplification of pixel as holding no value, reduces the argument in a form that renders it of little use: pixels are time. time is definitely involved in the real world, runescape is definitely part of your real world. You spend your time playing runescape where you do not perform other activities. Why do you choose to play runescape? because it's more enjoyable than your real life at certain times.

 

That's a brutal truth to accept, not a relative truth you can simply deny.

 

Accepting that virtual reality fulfills your need for entertainment in your spare time better than reality, that is the basic reason for why you play runescape, not the profundity of creation. Creation is the manifestation in which you subvert your attention to virtual reality; the means to an end. (you could say the same for reading a book, or watching tv)

 

The original poster is right in saying that we can all create our own personal reasons for playing runescape. However, it all boils down "rejecting reality and substituting your own" in the words of a certain mythbuster.

 

Rejecting the reality of the current time and substituting one's own ideas in the great mass of extant concepts - that is creation. I don't see the difference, really. You still create new rules, and the whole experience may be a creation in itself - memories

by that definition, daydreaming is also creation: the creation of nothing. Note; i play runescape, i substitute reality with imagination willingly. It serves purpose, but creates only the fleetingly ephemeral.

 

creation must be meaningful to serve purpose: my purpose in playing runescape is relaxation and enjoyment. I acknowledge that, not a surrogate argument of "creation" of "learning" of "social interaction" or otherwise. I play for fun. Were i to write, to draw, to paint, to play music, i would create something lasting. By playing runescape i create nothing. "only the memory remains".

[Cat_Spaseman]

the simplification of pixel as holding no value, reduces the argument in a form that renders it of little use: pixels are time. time is definitely involved in the real world, runescape is definitely part of your real world. You spend your time playing runescape where you do not perform other activities. Why do you choose to play runescape? because it's more enjoyable than your real life at certain times.

 

That's a brutal truth to accept, not a relative truth you can simply deny.

 

Accepting that virtual reality fulfills your need for entertainment in your spare time better than reality, that is the basic reason for why you play runescape, not the profundity of creation. Creation is the manifestation in which you subvert your attention to virtual reality; the means to an end. (you could say the same for reading a book, or watching tv)

 

The original poster is right in saying that we can all create our own personal reasons for playing runescape. However, it all boils down "rejecting reality and substituting your own" in the words of a certain mythbuster.

 

Rejecting the reality of the current time and substituting one's own ideas in the great mass of extant concepts - that is creation. I don't see the difference, really. You still create new rules, and the whole experience may be a creation in itself - memories

by that definition, daydreaming is also creation: the creation of nothing. Note; i play runescape, i substitute reality with imagination willingly. It serves purpose, but creates only the fleetingly ephemeral.

 

creation must be meaningful to serve purpose: my purpose in playing runescape is relaxation and enjoyment. I acknowledge that, not a surrogate argument of "creation" of "learning" of "social interaction" or otherwise. I play for fun. Were i to write, to draw, to paint, to play music, i would create something lasting. By playing runescape i create nothing. "only the memory remains".

 

Daydreaming is creation, and sure as hell serves a purpose. Just because the gain isn't concrete does not mean it is not there - planets keep from being thrown off into space by invisible powers. I believe daydreaming exercises the mind, to make it either more apt to react to creation, or to create itself. If we spent more time letting children daydream as opposed to placing them into already planned-out activities, we'd have much more talented kids who know what it is to be creative. Take it from someone who didn't accept his creativity as anything more than 'fun' for years. It's just as good as a good physique or a solid bank account, the ability to daydream and have a healthy, strong mind.

[tortilliachp]

the simplification of pixel as holding no value, reduces the argument in a form that renders it of little use: pixels are time. time is definitely involved in the real world, runescape is definitely part of your real world. You spend your time playing runescape where you do not perform other activities. Why do you choose to play runescape? because it's more enjoyable than your real life at certain times.

 

That's a brutal truth to accept, not a relative truth you can simply deny.

 

Accepting that virtual reality fulfills your need for entertainment in your spare time better than reality, that is the basic reason for why you play runescape, not the profundity of creation. Creation is the manifestation in which you subvert your attention to virtual reality; the means to an end. (you could say the same for reading a book, or watching tv)

 

The original poster is right in saying that we can all create our own personal reasons for playing runescape. However, it all boils down "rejecting reality and substituting your own" in the words of a certain mythbuster.

 

 

Rejecting the reality of the current time and substituting one's own ideas in the great mass of extant concepts - that is creation. I don't see the difference, really. You still create new rules, and the whole experience may be a creation in itself - memories

by that definition, daydreaming is also creation: the creation of nothing. Note; i play runescape, i substitute reality with imagination willingly. It serves purpose, but creates only the fleetingly ephemeral.

 

creation must be meaningful to serve purpose: my purpose in playing runescape is relaxation and enjoyment. I acknowledge that, not a surrogate argument of "creation" of "learning" of "social interaction" or otherwise. I play for fun. Were i to write, to draw, to paint, to play music, i would create something lasting. By playing runescape i create nothing. "only the memory remains".

 

Daydreaming is creation, and sure as hell serves a purpose. Just because the gain isn't concrete does not mean it is not there - planets keep from being thrown off into space by invisible powers. I believe daydreaming exercises the mind, to make it either more apt to react to creation, or to create itself. If we spent more time letting children daydream as opposed to placing them into already planned-out activities, we'd have much more talented kids who know what it is to be creative. Take it from someone who didn't accept his creativity as anything more than 'fun' for years. It's just as good as a good physique or a solid bank account, the ability to daydream and have a healthy, strong mind.

 

take it from someone who had their creativity organized, in the form of music, creative writing under the wing of schooling. That is the way to further creative talent: external stimulation by professionals. I didn't think playing the cello was anything but "fun" for years, as i was growing up, but now i find myself in a position where i compose, create and make money off it. If i were daydreaming instead of having fun practicing, where would i be now?

 

yes, daydreaming could work, for a few individuals, but it's not the way for children to let their creativity flourish. you have no idea how satisfying it is to perform your own compositions for a large audience, your improvisations with a fellow pianist or band. creativity can, and is taught. pedagogy works. this kind of constructive realization from a young age, through the feeling of mastering a setting (such as an exhibition or performance) you also gain self-confindence, and spread happiness to parents, grandparents and other loved-ones who see real results of your creativity. daydreaming creates only the ephemeral, unless you externalize its musings, which would be creative writing, not they daydreaming directly.

 

yes, playing runescape is more creative than passively watching tv, yes reading a book probably stimulates the imagination more than runescape. But real results come from activities in real life, not in a virtual world. you are prioritizing the unreal, virtual over the real when you play the game. It does boil down to that inconvenient truth.

 

this

 

Wasnt a guy named Newton sitting under an apple tree daydreaming when an apple fell and gave him one of the biggest ideas ever?

 

Another guy named Einstein was on a train daydreaming about what it would be like if it was moving at the speed of light, when he came up with one of the best ideas ever.

 

Daydreaming leads to creation

Einstein did not daydream, he reasoned logically on such a high level that only a handful of individuals could even understand his special theory of relativity when he proposed it. Just because a guy is a genius, not needing to write things down, does not mean his mind is daydreaming.

 

Newton did not daydream, he used his eyes, then his mind to logically explain the phenomenon.

 

Da Vinci did not daydream when painting, he saw and depicted.

 

Shakespeare did not daydream, he read and was inspired.

 

Marie and Pierre Curie did no daydream, they experimented and interperated.

 

Watson and Crick did not daydream, they modeled and x-ray cromatographed.

 

Mozart did not daydream when composing: he entertained, creating pop music.

 

Bach did not daydream, he praised God the best way he could.

 

 

experiencing the real world leads to creation; runescape is for fun

[un4given]

Too much fast-twitch gaming has burnt me out, which is why I came back to runescape. More laidback and slow-twitch.

[Kaida23]

A most excellent post, Cat Spaseman. I wish more people could be that articulate when presenting thoughts and ideas. You really should consider submitting something to the Tip.It Times. I actually had the "why do you play RuneScape?" conversation with my girlfriend a few months ago, and this sums up the intangibles of the game quite well. Like yourself, I don't put much emphasis on PvP (or much on combat at all) preferring to focus more on skilling.

 

I always thought you were a grrrl. L

Why does having a girlfriend mean I'm not?

 

...I really am a guy though.

[Beaumonde]

You either play for fun, or play because your life is less fun.

 

Sometimes I feel like over analyzing why we play, or why non of us quit, takes the fun out of getting lost in the game.

[Slayer_Jesse]

You either play for fun, or play because your life is less fun.

 

Sometimes I feel like over analyzing why we play, or why non of us quit, takes the fun out of getting lost in the game.

 

QFT.

[Skull]

I don't play because it's not fun.

 

Well written post though. I don't necessarily agree, but it's very well written nonetheless.

[Cat_Spaseman]

take it from someone who had their creativity organized, in the form of music, creative writing under the wing of schooling. That is the way to further creative talent: external stimulation by professionals. I didn't think playing the cello was anything but "fun" for years, as i was growing up, but now i find myself in a position where i compose, create and make money off it. If i were daydreaming instead of having fun practicing, where would i be now?

 

yes, daydreaming could work, for a few individuals, but it's not the way for children to let their creativity flourish. you have no idea how satisfying it is to perform your own compositions for a large audience, your improvisations with a fellow pianist or band. creativity can, and is taught. pedagogy works. this kind of constructive realization from a young age, through the feeling of mastering a setting (such as an exhibition or performance) you also gain self-confindence, and spread happiness to parents, grandparents and other loved-ones who see real results of your creativity. daydreaming creates only the ephemeral, unless you externalize its musings, which would be creative writing, not they daydreaming directly.

 

yes, playing runescape is more creative than passively watching tv, yes reading a book probably stimulates the imagination more than runescape. But real results come from activities in real life, not in a virtual world. you are prioritizing the unreal, virtual over the real when you play the game. It does boil down to that inconvenient truth.

 

this

 

Wasnt a guy named Newton sitting under an apple tree daydreaming when an apple fell and gave him one of the biggest ideas ever?

 

Another guy named Einstein was on a train daydreaming about what it would be like if it was moving at the speed of light, when he came up with one of the best ideas ever.

 

Daydreaming leads to creation

Einstein did not daydream, he reasoned logically on such a high level that only a handful of individuals could even understand his special theory of relativity when he proposed it. Just because a guy is a genius, not needing to write things down, does not mean his mind is daydreaming.

 

Newton did not daydream, he used his eyes, then his mind to logically explain the phenomenon.

 

Da Vinci did not daydream when painting, he saw and depicted.

 

Shakespeare did not daydream, he read and was inspired.

 

Marie and Pierre Curie did no daydream, they experimented and interperated.

 

Watson and Crick did not daydream, they modeled and x-ray cromatographed.

 

Mozart did not daydream when composing: he entertained, creating pop music.

 

Bach did not daydream, he praised God the best way he could.

 

 

experiencing the real world leads to creation; runescape is for fun

 

This is where the division between arguments is not so much a stratified difference in magnatude of validity, but two equal paths that diverge. Daydreaming does NOT work for everyone; only those willing to let it. When that phrase is used in the discussion of some physical power, it is a placebo effect of wishful thinking. When the realm in question is the mind; any positive shift, even imaginary, has the capacity to elicit benefices. Daydreaming is an exploration of the potentials of the mind, the instrument through which all outward work is routed. To say no to daydreaming, and by sticking to the books of trail and formulaic work, you limit the ability to create ideas without the pressure of the performance or construction. You couldn't explain benzene rings without a dream, and I couldn't have come up with most of my lyrics and music if I didn't daydream during work.

[Shangdi]

I kinda gave up reading and started skimming halfway through...and I couldn't be bothered to read all the posts. This was because I have a headache.

 

But I read this in a sig somewhere: Saying that RuneScape gp is worthless is like saying a $100 bill is just a piece off paper.\

 

:)

[NukeMarine]

I have played 182 days according to my log, and thats in the 7+ years i have played runescape.

 

182 days of the average 27375 days that people live.

 

Who cares.. thats not even 1% of my life.

 

If I find joy in the game, hell I am going to play it.

 

Careful with those numbers. First, you haven't lived to 75 yet so be wary of making claims to a future possibility. It's called an average because at least half don't make it to that number after all. Second, you're not counting the time you sleep which takes away a 1/3 of all your days on top of other essentials of life. Lastly, ask yourself: What else could I have done with those 4000 hours that would benefit me the other 500,000 hours there may be left in my life?

 

Hey, it's a pleasure. What's the point of working hard if you're not experiencing pleasure to balance it out? Just be aware that 4000 hours is still a steep investment. I became fluent and literate in Japanese investing less than half that time thanks to the magic of the spaced repetition system. Then again, with those invested hours I'm having even more hours of pleasure in Japanese, so I consider it a fair trade.

 

Now if only they'd release Runescape in Japanese and I might consider playing again .... for reinforcing my studying of course, yeah, that's it.

[Saru Inc]

A most excellent post, Cat Spaseman. I wish more people could be that articulate when presenting thoughts and ideas. You really should consider submitting something to the Tip.It Times. I actually had the "why do you play RuneScape?" conversation with my girlfriend a few months ago, and this sums up the intangibles of the game quite well. Like yourself, I don't put much emphasis on PvP (or much on combat at all) preferring to focus more on skilling.

 

I always thought you were a grrrl. L

Why does having a girlfriend mean I'm not?

 

...I really am a guy though.

 

 

Yep. I pondered that. I figured if I you were a girl I just say "o, sorry L". That fixes all of life's problems.

[Bows]

This is relevant to my interests.

[xpandax]

i'm going to have to agree with saruman. Honestly, in the world we live in today communication is vital and the ability to communicate effectively is a skill that you will benefit from for the entirety of your career/professional life. One of the keys of effective communication is to know your audience and modify your language accordingly. This is a forum for a video game that for the most part consists of 13-16 year olds. I'm 21 years old and I understand the words you used and how you used them, but in all honesty it's pointless. There is no one to impress here, we don't care how intelligent you are or how intelligent you perceive yourself to be. Learn to communicate to the masses and the world is yours.

[TehNamesBen]

A+ says the english teacher.

 

Mostly idealistic fantasy but, as per the reason I belive I still play Runescape is alike that of creating a 'better' character. To say that was my only reason would be a lie, I also acknowledge that Runescape at some points offers better entertainment then my real world activities.

 

And you can't say that daydreaming doesn't provide or produce any product or evidence. Daydreaming is merely thinking of a higher sort, a post was made by someone regarding numerous famous names and they're all classed as 'the great thinkers of their time'.

[Cat_Spaseman]

Well, I'd like to thank those with the praise and appreciation to admire something I enjoy doing even more so than that clickfest. I used to be real pessimistic about my use of language because I thought people were stupid, but I think I got over that when I realized that not utilizing a full vocabulary would be like painting exclusively with primary colors. You might be able to make other colors, but you waste a lot of time getting where you want.

 

Of course, if it weren't for the arguments I could not defend my statements. They deserve thanks as well. It's interesting how people feel what I write is fake - can anyone articulate how it appears? I can write like a normal person if I wanted, but what's the fun in that? You take the fun out of communication when you get rid of big words. Honestly, if I was trying to reach the masses, I would be more in tune to working with people than ideas. I work with ideas first, and then apply them to people through my own translation. In an interview, Omar Rodriguez-Lopez of The Mars Volta was questioned about if the fans played a role in his music (the audience.) Rather cockily, he defined what exactly he was - a 'creator person' and not an 'entertainer person.' These could be compared to the difference between the idea man, the thinker; and the man's man, the entertainer. While I will appreciate your critiques of my style, there is no guarantee I will make changes.

[Juneg]

You either play for fun, or play because your life is less fun. Sometimes I feel like over analyzing why we play, or why non of us quit, takes the fun out of getting lost in the game.

 

Exactly.

I play because it's fun. The game is enjoyable and keeps me entertained.

What more of a reason do I need?

[Eyrelex]

I am impressed with the level of thought and effort you put into your ideas and writing but i'd have to agree with some of the replies in that it did come off as pretentious, but I suppose that's the risk you run when you don't use conventional language. Anyways that's just my opinion, but it was well written nonetheless.

 

As to why I play runescape, well actually I don't really anymore with exception to holiday events and when something new is released to f2p. It's just not as fun anymore for me because I have changed, the game has changed and I find the community has changed as well.

[xpandax]

Barrack Obama is an intelligent man, however, not the most intelligent man in the United States so why is it that Barrack Obama is our leader and the most intelligent man in the United States isn't? Charisma. The ability to speak and connect effectively with anyone you may come in contact with is a skill worth developing and utilizing. In the 80's the main stream movie industry started popularizing the idea that the geeks in school would grow up to become the most successful later on in life. This idea appealed to millions, however, it isn't true. It doesn't matter how much more intelligent someone is than me, I'm not an idiot and I can connect with people very well... I'll be that geeks boss because I developed the necessary social skills to advance in my career. we are in a business age that is dependent upon relationships. That geek will just be in the lab developing my products.

 

Now thats not to say that I think i'm better than a geek, I myself am a huge nerd. The difference being I dont' identify myself with the nerd stereotype. I developed social skills and because of that I'll be running a fortune 500 company, not stuck in a lab.

[Cptbaker08]

Wasnt a guy named Newton sitting under an apple tree daydreaming when an apple fell and gave him one of the biggest ideas ever?

Newton wasn't sitting under the tree, he was standing at a distance and observed the apple falling.

[Saru Inc]

Well, I'd like to thank those with the praise and appreciation to admire something I enjoy doing even more so than that clickfest. I used to be real pessimistic about my use of language because I thought people were stupid, but I think I got over that when I realized that not utilizing a full vocabulary would be like painting exclusively with primary colors. You might be able to make other colors, but you waste a lot of time getting where you want.

 

Of course, if it weren't for the arguments I could not defend my statements. They deserve thanks as well. It's interesting how people feel what I write is fake - can anyone articulate how it appears? I can write like a normal person if I wanted, but what's the fun in that? You take the fun out of communication when you get rid of big words. Honestly, if I was trying to reach the masses, I would be more in tune to working with people than ideas. I work with ideas first, and then apply them to people through my own translation. In an interview, Omar Rodriguez-Lopez of The Mars Volta was questioned about if the fans played a role in his music (the audience.) Rather cockily, he defined what exactly he was - a 'creator person' and not an 'entertainer person.' These could be compared to the difference between the idea man, the thinker; and the man's man, the entertainer. While I will appreciate your critiques of my style, there is no guarantee I will make changes.

 

It looked like you looked up a bunch of words in the dictionary, and scripted this pointless pomp of words simply to suit the "high class" words. You came off as supercilious, as I did understand everything you said (I mean... I'm studying to be a Cultural anthropologist, I better understand XD), but that doesn't mean it needs to be said. If you generally tend to use such brobdingnagian words that most of us pubescent, corpulent, mechanical, pseudo-intellectual, Rugrats simply can't understand. Which is partly due to the fact that during these years of growth where we define our corporeal and ethereal beings,we are constantly under bombardment from malicious, parasitic, sycophantic, and horridly redundant beings who try to steal our intelligence. Rarely can our pragmatic beings come out from underneath the semantics in which this great Terra is built, to shine like Alpha Centari in a blizzard of hate from quasi authoritarian gov'ts. While such verbal eminence originated from your computer can help bring us up, to have us reach our given potential, both esoterically and physically speaking. However, in most cases, like the little train that simply couldn't, we cannot climb the mountain of verbose promise of intellectual greatness that you preach to us in your writing. Though if you do practice existentialism, then you absolutely do have the right to articulate every thought that comes from your cerebral domain.

 

Amen.

 

 

Don't I sound like a douchebag? I mean what I just wrote makes *complete* sense to me, I'm sure some will be like "vut"

 

 

Anyways, as I stated I don't mean to flame, just help :)

 

 

lrn2beconsise

 

(To abbrev. the italicized paragraph: While you could use big words in an effort to raise intelligence, most of us are too stupid to know wtf you're talking about, so y try L)

 

(And no, I didn't look up any of those words lmao. thats how i write irl. the interwebs r srs bsnss, but not that srs. If ur that srs... ur just wiggidy wack.)

[Mirror]

I don't think the discussion value is in how one conveys his or her thoughts, but rather what those thoughts convey. Not all topics are aimed at the whole population of Tip.it. Off topic suits those who prefer off-topic discussions. General Discussion of Runescape is meant for the discussion of Runescape which this is where it belongs. General does not mean "general words used for communication" but rather the variety of topics that can be found here. Now if you feel like the author purposely wrote in such a way for people to not understand, that's a personal feeling and does not provide anything worthwhile of discussion to this topic and should had been PM'd to the author.

 

Please, discuss the topic at hand, not how the author communicates.

[xpandax]

saru and his fleet of adjectives win. Tbh we already have enough pseudo intellectuals writing tipit times articles. We all play rs becausee we want to. /discussion.