Dungeoneering - Rushing Ettiquette

[stonewall337]

I've done a few dungeons where people claim to be hardcore rushers. Here was their strategy:

 

Put on shadow slik hood and good weapon (both of these binded, of course)and rush through the rooms and hope there aren't any mages. Ignore all monsters except mages and a few weak things like rats and bats so you can pick up their food drops. Once you find boss room, clear the room with the boss door in it, and complete the dungeon if you haven't already. Once the dungeon is complete, everyone rushes the boss, usually dying at least twice.

 

A group of 135+s taught me this, and they let me try it with them for a few rounds. We did almost 7 minute dungeons which was insane, but in the end the exp looked pretty lousy because the level mod and deaths killed the exp multiplier. I'm not sure if its faster exp per hour though.

Ye, you were doing it wrong.

[CallmeNice]

Hmm Rushing, Rushing, Rushing... Everyone wants to do it. Tbh i hate rushing. I stand around, cut trees, turn them into bows and alch them for money, i alch all the charms. And i stand around and not do [bleep] unless im confronted, You probably hate me lol I Mean the best possible way to train any skill is a AFK'able way.. " TO ME AT LEAST" it makes life much easier if i can afk 45%-60% of a rush i am greatly satisfied.. If the team is a little more stubborn thanks to the GG i can just afk and keep teleporting to my team,, Which is sooo ftw..

 

So my order would be..

 

1. AFK

 

2. AFK

 

3.Alch

 

4.Wc

 

5.Fish

[Obtaurian]

Hmm Rushing, Rushing, Rushing... Everyone wants to do it. Tbh i hate rushing. I stand around, cut trees, turn them into bows and alch them for money, i alch all the charms. And i stand around and not do [bleep] unless im confronted, You probably hate me lol I Mean the best possible way to train any skill is a AFK'able way.. " TO ME AT LEAST" it makes life much easier if i can afk 45%-60% of a rush i am greatly satisfied.. If the team is a little more stubborn thanks to the GG i can just afk and keep teleporting to my team,, Which is sooo ftw..

 

So my order would be..

 

1. AFK

 

2. AFK

 

3.Alch

 

4.Wc

 

5.Fish

 

So . . . you're a leecher.

[Sylpheed]

Hmm Rushing, Rushing, Rushing... Everyone wants to do it. Tbh i hate rushing. I stand around, cut trees, turn them into bows and alch them for money, i alch all the charms. And i stand around and not do [bleep] unless im confronted, You probably hate me lol I Mean the best possible way to train any skill is a AFK'able way.. " TO ME AT LEAST" it makes life much easier if i can afk 45%-60% of a rush i am greatly satisfied.. If the team is a little more stubborn thanks to the GG i can just afk and keep teleporting to my team,, Which is sooo ftw..

 

So my order would be..

 

1. AFK

 

2. AFK

 

3.Alch

 

4.Wc

 

5.Fish

 

So . . . you're a leecher.

 

If you are this type of player you shouldn't even be rushing (and even arguably Dungeoneering) in the first place. If AFK'ing is your thing do yourself and people that actually want to rush a favour and stick to fletching and cooking, kthxbai.

 

On another note, to whoever made the note about the unlocking of doors, I couldn't agree more. More often that not I nominate myself as the key-guy as I know I can do it fast and efficiently and it really [bleep]s me off when I unlock a door and two people rush to it to open it before me. I've confronted so many people about it and the best reply they can muster is, "lol,why not?".

[timmmmm83]

Hmm Rushing, Rushing, Rushing... Everyone wants to do it. Tbh i hate rushing. I stand around, cut trees, turn them into bows and alch them for money, i alch all the charms. And i stand around and not do [bleep] unless im confronted, You probably hate me lol I Mean the best possible way to train any skill is a AFK'able way.. " TO ME AT LEAST" it makes life much easier if i can afk 45%-60% of a rush i am greatly satisfied.. If the team is a little more stubborn thanks to the GG i can just afk and keep teleporting to my team,, Which is sooo ftw..

 

So my order would be..

 

1. AFK

 

2. AFK

 

3.Alch

 

4.Wc

 

5.Fish

It is fascinating how people love to be <bleep>s in an online game.

If you were on my team afk'ing, you would be kicked when we find boss room. (we might need you to finish emote room :wink:)

 

When I'm doing a large, I do the following:

1) make gatestone runes/cures and buy tools

2) thieve all chests

3) make the best possible BOB

4) mine promethium ore + make full promethium

5) fish when I need food and share when others need food

6) plant a lycopus seed and harvest before boss room to make strong melee pots and share

 

Step 4 might make me less of a teamplayer/rusher but you get a lot less hit when wearing promethium, being tool-man most of the time those dodged hits really add up.

 

Lvl 85 dungeoneering but no expert.

[Sly_Wizard]

Hmm Rushing, Rushing, Rushing... Everyone wants to do it. Tbh i hate rushing. I stand around, cut trees, turn them into bows and alch them for money, i alch all the charms. And i stand around and not do [bleep] unless im confronted, You probably hate me lol I Mean the best possible way to train any skill is a AFK'able way.. " TO ME AT LEAST" it makes life much easier if i can afk 45%-60% of a rush i am greatly satisfied.. If the team is a little more stubborn thanks to the GG i can just afk and keep teleporting to my team,, Which is sooo ftw..

 

So my order would be..

 

1. AFK

 

2. AFK

 

3.Alch

 

4.Wc

 

5.Fish

 

So . . . you're a leecher.

 

You know, I have an urge to mention something about it not being personal...

 

Anyway, rushing is really stupid, and I hope Jagex goes back one day and either makes it impossible to rush by making every room a GD, if it's not a skill door, or making it so that the bonus for killing monsters in a dungeon is bigger. But that's probably asking too much.

[Obtaurian]

Hmm Rushing, Rushing, Rushing... Everyone wants to do it. Tbh i hate rushing. I stand around, cut trees, turn them into bows and alch them for money, i alch all the charms. And i stand around and not do [bleep] unless im confronted, You probably hate me lol I Mean the best possible way to train any skill is a AFK'able way.. " TO ME AT LEAST" it makes life much easier if i can afk 45%-60% of a rush i am greatly satisfied.. If the team is a little more stubborn thanks to the GG i can just afk and keep teleporting to my team,, Which is sooo ftw..

 

So my order would be..

 

1. AFK

 

2. AFK

 

3.Alch

 

4.Wc

 

5.Fish

 

So . . . you're a leecher.

 

You know, I have an urge to mention something about it not being personal...

 

You'll have to elaborate on that one. I'm not offended by his leeching. I would keep him around till the boss, then make sure everyone agrees to kick him. Problem solved.

[TheAncient]

Hmm Rushing, Rushing, Rushing... Everyone wants to do it. Tbh i hate rushing. I stand around, cut trees, turn them into bows and alch them for money, i alch all the charms. And i stand around and not do [bleep] unless im confronted, You probably hate me lol I Mean the best possible way to train any skill is a AFK'able way.. " TO ME AT LEAST" it makes life much easier if i can afk 45%-60% of a rush i am greatly satisfied.. If the team is a little more stubborn thanks to the GG i can just afk and keep teleporting to my team,, Which is sooo ftw..

 

So my order would be..

 

1. AFK

 

2. AFK

 

3.Alch

 

4.Wc

 

5.Fish

 

So this is why 80+ Dg reqs mean nothing at all anymore.

 

Also on good enough teams youre usually so busy that there isn't downtime to skill, other than to alch.

 

Anyway, rushing is really stupid, and I hope Jagex goes back one day and either makes it impossible to rush by making every room a GD, if it's not a skill door, or making it so that the bonus for killing monsters in a dungeon is bigger. But that's probably asking too much.

Why is rushing stupid..? I'm not gonna take 2 hours on each map like Jagex wants me to when I can just do it in 30 minutes.

[tortilliachp]

I dg with pro teams. that means a large floor should NEVER take more than 36-7 mins. On average they take less than 30 mins.

 

I would never kick anyone. I just add them to my increasingly long blacklist of people i don't dung with. 0 = added to blacklist

 

1. Fishing 0, alching arrows and buying is faster

2. Cooking food only when VERY neccessary (i.e. keyer tells you to) 2

3. Farming mushrooms 0. why? just why?

4. Crafting ranged/mage armor 5 (Depends on what your boss is)

5. Farming herbs 5. looting herbs yes please, farming when needed yes please, farming in anticipation cause no gd's / stuff to do yes please.

6. Mixing melee/defence potions 3. no defence pots. maybe a melee pot for boss, depending on what boss it is

7. High alching 10 you can high alch mid-combat, there's no reason not to high alch, unless the team already has a TOnnn of cash.

8. Mining Ores 3. ores for altar? yes, otherwise strict no.

9. Smelting ores / Smithing armor 0. don't do it.

10. Thieving chests 10, better than alching as less clicking is required

11. Crafting combat/Non combat runes 7 (for gt's and cures, combats only for bosses when it's needed (riftsplitter) and when excessive amounts of knights are to be anticipated)

12. Cutting trees 7 only t10 logs. you need them to cook food (from your cash) if someone needs to prep for boss (which SHOULD be rare), you may need bows or staves, 3-4 logs never hurt.

13. building altar at base: 10. this is what the fist cash is used for

14. looting cash piles from monster drops. have a designated altar person doing this, for your altar, or seeds for herbs if you hit skill doors when you don't have herbs.

 

80+ dung reqs, w117? forget it. key yourself or have someone you know are good at keying key for you. if possible always have 3 people you know are good at dunging, then the other two don't really matter much

[CallmeNice]

Hmm Rushing, Rushing, Rushing... Everyone wants to do it. Tbh i hate rushing. I stand around, cut trees, turn them into bows and alch them for money, i alch all the charms. And i stand around and not do [bleep] unless im confronted, You probably hate me lol I Mean the best possible way to train any skill is a AFK'able way.. " TO ME AT LEAST" it makes life much easier if i can afk 45%-60% of a rush i am greatly satisfied.. If the team is a little more stubborn thanks to the GG i can just afk and keep teleporting to my team,, Which is sooo ftw..

 

So my order would be..

 

1. AFK

 

2. AFK

 

3.Alch

 

4.Wc

 

5.Fish

It is fascinating how people love to be <bleep>s in an online game.

If you were on my team afk'ing, you would be kicked when we find boss room. (we might need you to finish emote room :wink:)

 

When I'm doing a large, I do the following:

1) make gatestone runes/cures and buy tools

2) thieve all chests

3) make the best possible BOB

4) mine promethium ore + make full promethium

5) fish when I need food and share when others need food

6) plant a lycopus seed and harvest before boss room to make strong melee pots and share

 

Step 4 might make me less of a teamplayer/rusher but you get a lot less hit when wearing promethium, being tool-man most of the time those dodged hits really add up.

 

Lvl 85 dungeoneering but no expert.

 

 

I mean, Like my boy stated it is not in any way personal. I just want to do the least amount of work possible.. I have infact been kicked from numerous rooms for my practices and i probably deserved it everytime.. But that is how i choose to play the game to maximize the floors i can do before my Bored-O-Meter reaches 9000!

[timmmmm83]

I mean, Like my boy stated it is not in any way personal. I just want to do the least amount of work possible.. I have infact been kicked from numerous rooms for my practices and i probably deserved it everytime.. But that is how i choose to play the game to maximize the floors i can do before my Bored-O-Meter reaches 9000!

It is kinda personal as you (well, not only you but you get the picture) are taking away the more experienced dungeoneerers from w117/joining random teams.

Thus ruining it for your teammates in that dungeon AND for all the people who don't have the req's to join a dungeoneering clan and whose only resort is w117.

 

I myself don't really like rushing, clearing everything but dead ends is a lot more enjoyable imo.

But I dislike random w117-teams filled with people that have your attitude even more.

I don't see another option than joining a dungeoneering clan and rush too...

 

Thanks. <_<

(this is as unpersonal as your post :wink:)

[Owned_Nex]

Some people do Dung for fun.

Some people do Dung of EXP.

 

They don't mix.

[timmmmm83]

Some people do Dung for fun.

Some people do Dung of EXP.

 

They don't mix.

But people who want to have both are screwed. :razz:

 

I hope with the new floors added, it will become more rational to clear a large dungeon than to rush it.

[Slayer_Jesse]

1. Fishing (2 only if monsters were stingy with drops.)

2. Cooking food (2, Ditto)

3. Farming mushrooms: 0

4. Crafting ranged/mage armor: 4, if boss requires it.

5. Farming herbs: 7 if for melee pots.

6. Mixing melee/defence potions: 10

7. High alching: 3

8. Mining Ores: 5

9. Smelting ores / Smithing armor: 4

10. Thieving chests:10

11. Crafting combat/Non combat runes:3

12. Cutting trees:0

[Golvellius]

I do all that crap.

Somebody on the team has to.

You don't need 5 people with no food running room to room trying not to kill stuff.

Somebody has to make armour.

Somebody has to come up with food.

Somebody has to make pots for the boss.

The only people that annoy me are the elitests and leecher noobs (hi I need to afk brb...then right before boss... I'm back what I miss?).

[Viv]

Some people do Dung for fun.

Some people do Dung of EXP.

 

They don't mix.

But people who want to have both are screwed. :razz:

 

I hope with the new floors added, it will become more rational to clear a large dungeon than to rush it.

 

honestly making armor and clearing dungeons was the first way played and pretty fun

 

but now i only do rushes

 

i hate people that ladida and dont care how long the dungeon is taking but i hate peopel that complain about something taking just a little longer....

 

 

in 117 often someone will join and go 45 mins omg so long...you joined a random team in 117 ur lucky its less than 1hr...

in a dungeon clan however thats kinda long

 

i dont like when thiers 133 shades or dragons in rooms we run through often tho... but in an almost dead end place they should be left alone

 

if thier arent guards its kinda smart to antinpc cap for food instead of fishing...but usually thier is a guard room

 

i barely ever alc and fish more often but in a good team i always have too much food lol

[Arcane_Rift]

I'm sure some of the points were posted but I'll re-post for emphasis and due to the fact I don't want to read through the entire post.

 

• 
   
  
• A lot of the best teams will require you to have a shadow silk hood to rush with them. Your second bind should be a prom 2h or spear++. Shadow silk hood can be pretty elusive if you're unlucky (I'm 200k off 90 and only have seen 1 drop) so until you can get a hood bind a prom plate. A few other pieces of armor will work here but this seems to one of the easiest and most attainable ones to get.
  
• Combat 130+
  
• Listen to the keyers orders and act on them as quickly as possible.
  
• Make laws and cosmics for gating as soon as you start (I bind laws as my ammunition spot to improve help with rushing 1 -24). You can make cure runes too but I usually buy 2 or 3 cure potions and rarely use them.
  
• If you aren't the keyer then purchase tools for each door.
  
• For the most part you will not need to farm any items. Loot chests and bring alch runes with you to gain gp along the way (mostly used for building an altar at base). If your team is having a tough time with food have someone fish while others are taking care of guardian rooms or if you have enough gp, buy it and cook it.
  
• Clear only guardian rooms and puzzle rooms that contain non-hood friendly monsters or the entire room if one or more of your members is hoodless.
  
• If a skill door requires a potion to open then have someone make the pot and farm the herb if need be. This can be done while others are clearing guardian rooms and/or the keyers is opening other doors.
  
• If guardian rooms are cleared then run to the furthest doors that are unable to be opened and gate the location so the door is easily accessible once the key is found. This usually can be done once the door is found but sometimes a person may have a different pertinent location gated.
  
• Only time you need a bow is to fight Lex. Stand in the corner and fight him and this way you will avoid his book barrage.
  
• Only time you need attack runes is to fight Rammer.
  
• Fast larges can be completed (opening every door) in less than 30 minutes but it depends on the dungeon and the keyer. Even fast keyers can get a stubborn dungeon that can take over 40.
  

[Naive]

I'm sure some of the points were posted but I'll re-post for emphasis and due to the fact I don't want to read through the entire post.

 

• 
   
  
• A lot of the best teams will require you to have a shadow silk hood to rush with them. Your second bind should be a prom 2h or spear++. Shadow silk hood can be pretty elusive if you're unlucky (I'm 200k off 90 and only have seen 1 drop) so until you can get a hood bind a prom plate. A few other pieces of armor will work here but this seems to one of the easiest and most attainable ones to get.
  
• Listen to the keyers orders and act on them as quickly as possible.
  
• Make laws and cosmics for gating as soon as you start (I bind laws as my ammunition spot to improve help with rushing 1 -24). You can make cure runes too but I usually buy 2 or 3 cure potions and rarely use them.
  
• If you aren't the keyer then purchase tools for each door.
  
• For the most part you will not need to farm any items. Loot chests and bring alch runes with you to gain gp along the way (mostly used for building an altar at base). If you're team is having a tough time with food have someone fish while others are taking care of guardian rooms or if you have enough gp, buy it and cook it.
  
• Clear only guardian rooms and puzzle rooms that contain non-hood friendly monsters or the entire room if one or more of your members is hoodless.
  
• If a skill door requires a potion to open then have someone make the pot and farm the herb if need be. This can be done while others are clearing guardian rooms and/or the keyers is opening other doors.
  
• If guardian rooms are cleared then run to the furthest doors that are unable to be opened and gate the location so the door is easily accessible once the key is found. This usually can be done once the door is found but sometimes a person may have a different pertinent location gated.
  
• Only time you need a bow is to fight Lexi. Stand in the corner and fight her and this way you will avoid her book barrage.
  
• Only time you need attack runes is to fight Rammer.
  
• Fast larges can be completed (opening every door) in less than 30 minutes but it depends on the dungeon and the keyer. Even fast keyers can get a stubborn dungeon that can take over 40.
  

Lex is a guy :P

 

Personally I've never rushed, but I'm not so good with fast paced stuff, so I doubt I'd ever get into it :|

[Racheya]

Getting combat runes is a MUST for me, as a mager I'm slightly screwed if I can't get the starting ess. I have bloods bound then craft deaths for Air surge and only make waters for a Water surge if needed. I'd say that cooking fish when low on food or making gatestone runes ect is acceptable if needed, same with looting chests. I don't mind anything as long as it's *needed* and won't take forever.

[Arcane_Rift]

Getting combat runes is a MUST for me, as a mager I'm slightly screwed if I can't get the starting ess. I have bloods bound then craft deaths for Air surge and only make waters for a Water surge if needed. I'd say that cooking fish when low on food or making gatestone runes ect is acceptable if needed, same with looting chests. I don't mind anything as long as it's *needed* and won't take forever.

 

It may be a must for you but on a true rushing team it would be frowned upon.

[Guthorm]

Getting combat runes is a MUST for me, as a mager I'm slightly screwed if I can't get the starting ess. I have bloods bound then craft deaths for Air surge and only make waters for a Water surge if needed. I'd say that cooking fish when low on food or making gatestone runes ect is acceptable if needed, same with looting chests. I don't mind anything as long as it's *needed* and won't take forever.

 

It may be a must for you but on a true rushing team it would be frowned upon.

 

That is why Jagex needs to fix the mage's rune thing >.>

[Viv]

anyone else thinkg the food drops of certain things where nerfed? i didd a dg with 4 randomers yesterday and was hardly getting any food..

 

oh and imo if u solo a monster you shuld be the one getting the food...hate when i domost of the monster and then get all food looted!

 

in a good team the 4 people would ggs to the spot immidiately tho.