Lolicon

[Nenga]

The fears are after seeing an image enough, you'll want the real thing. Which I don't know. After having McDonalds I want anything but a hamburger.

 

If that theory worked then anyone who ever played a shooting game or saw any violent t.v. show would be going out and causing a masacre.

Apparently you're not a gamer. It's pretty much common knowledge among gamers that the media is always trying to blame something on video games. Like there was a kid who accidentally hung himself, they blamed it on his Nintendo WII. Kid shot himself in the head, they blamed it on Halo.

[Giordano]

The fears are after seeing an image enough, you'll want the real thing. Which I don't know. After having McDonalds I want anything but a hamburger.

 

If that theory worked then anyone who ever played a shooting game or saw any violent t.v. show would be going out and causing a masacre.

Apparently you're not a gamer. It's pretty much common knowledge among gamers that the media is always trying to blame something on video games. Like there was a kid who accidentally hung himself, they blamed it on his Nintendo WII. Kid shot himself in the head, they blamed it on Halo.

The media blaming something isn't scientific or even philosophical fact.

 

Keyword: Media.

[Nenga]

The fears are after seeing an image enough, you'll want the real thing. Which I don't know. After having McDonalds I want anything but a hamburger.

 

If that theory worked then anyone who ever played a shooting game or saw any violent t.v. show would be going out and causing a masacre.

Apparently you're not a gamer. It's pretty much common knowledge among gamers that the media is always trying to blame something on video games. Like there was a kid who accidentally hung himself, they blamed it on his Nintendo WII. Kid shot himself in the head, they blamed it on Halo.

The media blaming something isn't scientific or even philosophical fact.

 

Keyword: Media.

Looking at porn hasn't been proven to make you want sex either. Most guys who look at porn already want sex.

[RpgGamer]

The fears are after seeing an image enough, you'll want the real thing. Which I don't know. After having McDonalds I want anything but a hamburger.

 

If that theory worked then anyone who ever played a shooting game or saw any violent t.v. show would be going out and causing a masacre.

Apparently you're not a gamer. It's pretty much common knowledge among gamers that the media is always trying to blame something on video games. Like there was a kid who accidentally hung himself, they blamed it on his Nintendo WII. Kid shot himself in the head, they blamed it on Halo.

The media blaming something isn't scientific or even philosophical fact.

 

Keyword: Media.

Looking at porn hasn't been proven to make you want sex either. Most guys who look at porn already want sex.

Personal inquiery:

Porn does make people want sex, even if they didn't to begin with. It plants the idea of sex in your head, and nature takes its course with the rest.

[a_bert]

I'm still lol'ing that people get off to cartoons.

 

It's all the same 1's and 0's baby

 

lolicon is sick and disgusting though

[Sam]

Pictures/movies/music don't make people do anything, we all make our own choices.

 

But they can influence a decision in some cases.

[Nenga]

Pictures/movies/music don't make people do anything, we all make our own choices.

 

But they can influence a decision in some cases.

but ultimately it's a personal choice to do these things.

[civie]

I think Lolicon should be legal. Even though it's underage, it's not the underage drawn pornography out there. There's plenty of Western Animation stuff to be found with underage girls in sexual acts.

 

Western Animation: oh look, it's fake, so it's legal.

Eastern Animation: oh look, it's fake, but it's underage so illegal.

 

Edit: and it CERTAINLY is a personal choice to act. Shooters are good to vent frustration (it's proven by SCIENCE), so maybe lolicon/shotacon can vent pedophilic tendencies?

[Racheya]

I very much believe it should be legal. Lolicon does NOT hurt other people, it doesn't hurt children and it doesn't 'promote' paedophilia. What it DOES do, is give people who want that sort of experience a way to let out their urges rather than having to resort to real CP.

 

While it might not be for everyone, I think it serves a purpose and that if we didn't have Lolicon & Shotacon on the internet - there'd be a lot more paedophiles roaming out there.

[Jernlov]

God damn delusional [bleep]s giving anime a bad name.

 

Whilst I don't necessarily think people who get themselves off to this stuff are the sick, disgusting pedophiles that the Daily Mail warns us about on a regular basis, I do think they have other issues. Almost everyone I've met who has been into this stuff is some kind of neurotic psycho with little sense of self-restraint who like to shove the fact that they like two-dimensional little girls right in your face. If people keep quiet about it, I generally put it to one side and continue with my daily life. It is also horrendously bad taste - drawing pictures of children, real or not, in even slightly suggestive poses kind of makes me think "why?" I like anime and anime art, but some 10 year old posing in her underwear with saucer eyes and a creepy grin? Yeah, no.

 

As for the legalisation argument: Whatever. I don't care. It'll satisfy a small niche since even pedophiles hate this stuff. Anime fans seem to have a problem with differentiating between art and pornography in general but I don't think this stuff is going to create a marked increase in child molestation. Most people who enjoy this don't have the integrity to molest a child and face the consequences.

 

OP picture isn't really lolicon either. It's not suggestive.

[xSxqPowerx]

Meh. Better than real child pornography I suppose... I don't care enough either way to have a strong opinion though.

 

But to the people asking, yes, it can be VERY explicit and sexual.

[Rainy_Day]

Imo it should be legal, seeing the point of outlawing CP is to protect children, while nobody is harmed in the making of this.

But such images could entice people to go for real images, which does hurt children and therefore is not protecting anyone. I'm happy with the restrictions the UK has on such imagery.

[Pirate_Felix]

Imo it should be legal, seeing the point of outlawing CP is to protect children, while nobody is harmed in the making of this.

This is interesting, though it does encourage sex with underage children so does porn encourage rape. And maybe its a good way for pedophiles to vent their needs?

[The Runar]

Should be legal, as I've heard it actually decreases the amount of real CP. I'm too tired to search for a link right now though.

 

Also what exactly counts as lolicon? Do the girls have to actually be underage or just look like one? How about girls that are underage but don't look like it? Or alien girls who are childs until they're 500 years old? Girls in manga and anime always look younger than they actually are anyway... And how realistic do the characters have to look? Can a stick figure be CP? I would laugh like crazy if someone got arrested for drawing stick figures :lol:

 

So yeah, too hard to control and no real reason to do so.

[anonymous1234]

Doesn't really matter if it's legal or not, does it? When you're behind 7 proxies, looking at loli isn't going to be much of a risk.

 

@Dungeon, not sure if you're sarcastic..

[Dupin]

I beleive all cartoon stuff should be legal. This is really just xenophobia from the old lawmaking farts who don't understand the culture. The only reason CP should be illegal is because a minor can't officially give consent for sexual acts. That's not a problem if the minor isn't a real person.

 

For the people who argue that it encourages pedophiles, I would disagree. Neither side can back up this argument with real evidence (hopefully), but I think that a person with sexual urges for children could suppress those urges by watching CP.

 

I read an article a while ago (I forget where) about a guy who got in trouble for having CP on his computer who then had to wear an ankle-bracelet tracking device or something, and had all these restrictions like would be given to a rapist. I thought it was ridiculous, seeing as he didn't actually rape anybody. He didn't endanger society by sitting at home examining pre-pubescent females, in the same way that it's not illegal to get drunk at your house.

[a_bert]

Are you actually saying it's ok to watch CP so long as it's so you don't fiddle with kids?

 

Seriously?

[meb]

Are you actually saying it's ok to watch CP so long as it's so you don't fiddle with kids?

Seriously?

What's the problem? It causes no harm to anyone.

[a_bert]

I... what.. really?

 

You have to be trolling.

[meb]

You mean cartoon porn right?

[a_bert]

Maybe Bentomat does, and that would lessen his offence. Reading his post again, it can be taken either way.

 

But still: lolicon is not ok just because it's a cartoon. It's quite clear what it it IS supposed to be: just because it's drawn rather than "acted" doesn't mean it's not depicting 'CP'. I mean, if your best friend started drawing a toddler and stuck him in a sexual scenario, would you not be in the least bit creeped out? Are you saying that is A-ok?

 

Furthermore: to everyone citing the excuse that Lolicon/CP might result in the "SUSPECT PAEDOPHILE" 'using up all the urge'; are you [bleep]ing kidding me?

 

The easiest/closest example is porn: If you watch porn, you don't suddenly not want to have sex.

[meb]

Of course it's disgusting but those people aren't doing anything wrong. If people have those urges it's better to jack off to a cartoon than actual child porn. Watching actual child porn is something completely different because it indirectly harms children.

[Alg]

Of course it's disgusting but those people aren't doing anything wrong. If people have those urges it's better to jack off to a cartoon than actual child porn. Watching actual child porn is something completely different because it indirectly harms children.

Lesser of two evils. It's still pretty [bleep]ed up, but less so than a guy going out and actually having sex with children.

[Will H]

The law only functions on the level of protecting children. It's gilded with talk of morals, but it's only a front, simply because morality is such a grey area. If morality was really allowed to get involved in law, then court cases would often revolve around how conservative or liberal the jury was. That's not justice at all.

[Dupin]

Maybe Bentomat does, and that would lessen his offence. Reading his post again, it can be taken either way.

 

But still: lolicon is not ok just because it's a cartoon. It's quite clear what it it IS supposed to be: just because it's drawn rather than "acted" doesn't mean it's not depicting 'CP'. I mean, if your best friend started drawing a toddler and stuck him in a sexual scenario, would you not be in the least bit creeped out? Are you saying that is A-ok?

 

Furthermore: to everyone citing the excuse that Lolicon/CP might result in the "SUSPECT PAEDOPHILE" 'using up all the urge'; are you [bleep]ing kidding me?

 

The easiest/closest example is porn: If you watch porn, you don't suddenly not want to have sex.

But if you watch porn, you don't suddenly want to have sex.

 

Yes, I say that there is nothing wrong with watching CP (cartoon). Actual CP is unlawful to watch because in order to make it, someone would have to break the law, so it's distribution/ownership of unlawful material.

 

It's not wrong to watch CP. It's just a bit disturbing. To those who disagree, explain yourselves. It's not harming anyone, so why should there be a law against it?