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Experience Rates

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Full urn of infernal ashes - 1.875kxp

Number of abby demon kills needed for full urn - 25

 

Scattering infernal ashes - 63xp

Using infernal ashes on gilded - 220.5xp

Using infernal ashes on ecto - 252xp

 

Dragon bones with gilded altar (burners lit) - 252xp

 

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GP / XP

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Dragon bones (gilded altar) - 25.9gp / xp

 

Frost bones (gilded altar) - 33.17gp / xp

 

Infernal Ashes (ecto) - 6.74gp / xp

 

Infernal Ashes (gilded) - 7.7gp / xp

 

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Hourly Experience Rates

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Infernal ashes (gilded altar) - 264k / hour

 

Dragon bones (gilded altar) - 302k / hour

 

Frost bones (gilded altar) - 756k / hour

 

Infernal ashes (ecto) - Coming soon

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The rate of infernal ashes on ecto could be interesting.

 

At the moment I don't think the gp/xp bit means anything though, people aren't going to be selling infernal ashes at less than ~80% of the price of dragon bones just because the mean guide price is ~30% of dragon bone price. Also Dragon bone prices are going to crash (not sure how much)

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Infernal ashes buy for 6.9k each at the moment but it's far too early to say what the price will be. I'm hoping for a cheaper alternative to dbones.

 

I'd like to know the exp/ph of ashes on the ecto. Might be a cheaper alternative to turmoil for me.

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Are people buying urns because they cannot make them themselves (level requirements)? Because they are so simple to make it's just clay and a rune...

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What do you think lesser and greater demon ashes will level out as?

 

I decided I wanted to get some magic exp with hati paws but wanted to do combat for hp exp too so I waited until this update.

 

I haven't been to world 2 but the price thing says 600 ea which is too low a starting point.

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What do you think lesser and greater demon ashes will level out as?

 

I decided I wanted to get some magic exp with hati paws but wanted to do combat for hp exp too so I waited until this update.

 

I haven't been to world 2 but the price thing says 600 ea which is too low a starting point.

 

i dont see them really going over say 1.5k, but you never know :D

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Imo, the only positive to come of this update is the potential crash of dragon bones, and even that doesn't seem likely. They are selling for about 50gp less than they were prior to the update, and that is still over the market price. I would like to see them drop down to a reasonable price, anywhere in the region of 4.5k - 5k sounds good.

 

Ashes also seem good, but only for people who don't have the stats for a gilded altar. I don't know what the exp/hr is like without having to grind bones on ecto, but i find it hard to believe it would be more than bones on gilded altars (considering you can do 24-26 without a familiar, and many more with per trip). You are limited to 14 ashes per inventory, and this only increases by half the capacity of a familiar for a 0 exp bonus when compared to dragon bones on gilded altars.

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Ashes also seem good, but only for people who don't have the stats for a gilded altar. I don't know what the exp/hr is like without having to grind bones on ecto, but i find it hard to believe it would be more than bones on gilded altars (considering you can do 24-26 without a familiar, and many more with per trip). You are limited to 14 ashes per inventory, and this only increases by half the capacity of a familiar for a 0 exp bonus when compared to dragon bones on gilded altars.

 

What's stopping people using their ashes on their altars instead of bones? Exactly the same process, just cheaper xp (and only ~15% less xp)

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Imo, the only positive to come of this update is the potential crash of dragon bones, and even that doesn't seem likely. They are selling for about 50gp less than they were prior to the update, and that is still over the market price. I would like to see them drop down to a reasonable price, anywhere in the region of 4.5k - 5k sounds good.

 

Ashes also seem good, but only for people who don't have the stats for a gilded altar. I don't know what the exp/hr is like without having to grind bones on ecto, but i find it hard to believe it would be more than bones on gilded altars (considering you can do 24-26 without a familiar, and many more with per trip). You are limited to 14 ashes per inventory, and this only increases by half the capacity of a familiar for a 0 exp bonus when compared to dragon bones on gilded altars.

The update came out a couple hours ago, plus the majority of player haven't even payer post-patch.

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Ashes also seem good, but only for people who don't have the stats for a gilded altar. I don't know what the exp/hr is like without having to grind bones on ecto, but i find it hard to believe it would be more than bones on gilded altars (considering you can do 24-26 without a familiar, and many more with per trip). You are limited to 14 ashes per inventory, and this only increases by half the capacity of a familiar for a 0 exp bonus when compared to dragon bones on gilded altars.

 

What's stopping people using their ashes on their altars instead of bones? Exactly the same process, just cheaper xp (and only ~15% less xp)

Nothing is stopping them, but it is lower experience. Also, the ability to use ashes at ecto may keep the prices similar to bones and make the experience cost pretty much the same.

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Looking forward to seeing the XP rates for ecto'ing infernal ashes. Will definitely be helpful for me trying to get 95 prayer from 89 once I go back to training slayer again. :thumbup:

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Infernal urns don't even sell for 1k ea atm, managed to sell 83 for 3.5k ea just after the update.

 

I think when prices level out it will turn out to be a profitable way to train crafting, I doubt the xp is great but there'll always be demand for the urns. I think skilling ones will be more used than infernal though. And some extra profit from tds and slayer is always good :thumbsup:

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apologies for the random-ish bump, but was the xp rate for infernal ashes @ ecto ever discovered? would be nice to know lol.

Why is it even important? the difference in cost compared to altaring is minimal, while the speed is definitely much slower(2x+). Even if you kill edgeville men, altaring would be better, and that's probably why noone bothered.

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apologies for the random-ish bump, but was the xp rate for infernal ashes @ ecto ever discovered? would be nice to know lol.

Why is it even important? the difference in cost compared to altaring is minimal, while the speed is definitely much slower(2x+). Even if you kill edgeville men, altaring would be better, and that's probably why noone bothered.

i dont think it's 2x +slower, as you dont need to grind down the ashes

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apologies for the random-ish bump, but was the xp rate for infernal ashes @ ecto ever discovered? would be nice to know lol.

Why is it even important? the difference in cost compared to altaring is minimal, while the speed is definitely much slower(2x+). Even if you kill edgeville men, altaring would be better, and that's probably why noone bothered.

i dont think it's 2x +slower, as you dont need to grind down the ashes

u gotta fill buckets with slime >.> that makes it slow the accual ectoing is like 500k/hr but u need slime so it makes it really 100k/hr :P

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apologies for the random-ish bump, but was the xp rate for infernal ashes @ ecto ever discovered? would be nice to know lol.

Why is it even important? the difference in cost compared to altaring is minimal, while the speed is definitely much slower(2x+). Even if you kill edgeville men, altaring would be better, and that's probably why noone bothered.

i dont think it's 2x +slower, as you dont need to grind down the ashes

u gotta fill buckets with slime >.> that makes it slow the accual ectoing is like 500k/hr but u need slime so it makes it really 100k/hr :P

It's slow because you need to get slime AND you can only 13 ashes per banking trip. I remember old dragon bone grinding being around 30k prayer xp an hour, so 100k an hour for the ashes is a fair assumption.

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