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Recently I just got a gorgonite 2h and i was wondering what monsters I should slash and which ones i should crush?
Thanks for any input.

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tbh you can jsut leave it on slash from pretty much everything aside from forgotten warriors (the higher level ones) and a few undead ones (i forget quite which though)

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tbh you can jsut leave it on slash from pretty much everything aside from forgotten warriors (the higher level ones) and a few undead ones (i forget quite which though)

Ok thank you.

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tbh you can jsut leave it on slash from pretty much everything aside from forgotten warriors (the higher level ones) and a few undead ones (i forget quite which though)

Ok thank you.


No, this is wrong. There are plenty of crush-weak monsters. You should see if you can find a database of dg monsters and their weaknesses. I would list them myself, but it'd be a loooooong list.

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tbh you can jsut leave it on slash from pretty much everything aside from forgotten warriors (the higher level ones) and a few undead ones (i forget quite which though)


90% of the time you give bad Dungeoneering advice, I don't even know why you bother.

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Well its advice I've seen repeated elsewhere many times, including these forums, and from personal experience it had worked just fine so far.
But please if it so wrong please do post better advice.

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tbh you can jsut leave it on slash from pretty much everything aside from forgotten warriors (the higher level ones) and a few undead ones (i forget quite which though)

Ok thank you.


No, this is wrong. There are plenty of crush-weak monsters. You should see if you can find a database of dg monsters and their weaknesses. I would list them myself, but it'd be a loooooong list.

Found something on wikipedia containin all dung monsters and what they're weak to.
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Ignore sy, he clearly has no idea what he is talking about.

Crush should be used on:

Forgotten warriors(plate)(only if you don't have mage)
Hellhounds
Fire giants
All skeletons
Earth warriors
Reborn mages

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For other people's sake who may search this I believe this is the list he found:
http://runescape.wik...eering/Monsters

And skimming through it I don't see how my advice was that bad; undead do take fair slice of the crush weaknesses.
But yeah deffo seems more than I was aware of benefit from crush attack use, particularly in the higher floors.

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For other people's sake who may search this I believe this is the list he found:
http://runescape.wik...eering/Monsters

And skimming through it I don't see how my advice was that bad; undead do take fair slice of the crush weaknesses.
But yeah deffo seems more than I was aware of benefit from crush attack use, particularly in the higher floors.

Perhaps in the context of the average scaper, your advice is good.
But DGS is here, so your advice is not in this context.
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For other people's sake who may search this I believe this is the list he found:
http://runescape.wik...eering/Monsters

And skimming through it I don't see how my advice was that bad; undead do take fair slice of the crush weaknesses.
But yeah deffo seems more than I was aware of benefit from crush attack use, particularly in the higher floors.

Perhaps in the context of the average scaper, your advice is good.
But DGS is here, so your advice is not in this context.


Yeah I'm not saying it was the best advice ever and totally expected others to probably have better answers.
Just don't think its fair to slam my advice entirely given it is true forgotten worries and undead do make up a fair portion of the list.

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Don't give advice if you think it's bad advice, sy.
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I appreciate users giving more detailed advice in their responses but since one person already pointed out the flaws in Sy_Accursed's advice and presented better alternatives, there's no need to continue about it. (EDITED: poor choice of words, I'm asking both parties to stop, not just one :P)

If you see this poor advice continually presented though, please report it so we can look into it and contact the user in question. :)

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Yeah I'm not saying it was the best advice ever and totally expected others to probably have better answers.
Just don't think its fair to slam my advice entirely given it is true forgotten worries and undead do make up a fair portion of the list.

Undeads aren't weak to crush, that advice is confusing at best.

As for forgotten warriors, those should be crushed at last resort, so if there are any people with a csb, they shouldn't be crushed.

So yeah, basically, your advice was very much terrible...

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I appreciate users giving more detailed advice in their responses but since one person already pointed out the flaws in Sy_Accursed's advice and presented better alternatives, there's no need to continue about it. (EDITED: poor choice of words, I'm asking both parties to stop, not just one :P)

If you see this poor advice continually presented though, please report it so we can look into it and contact the user in question. :)

Let's put it this way- I have never seen Sy answer a dungeoneering question in a way that isn't either bad/incomplete or plain wrong. Ever. He has no experience with the skill and yet insists on posting whatever misguided idea pops into his head rather than admitting that he doesn't know what he's talking about and letting other people take the question.
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Yeah I'm not saying it was the best advice ever and totally expected others to probably have better answers.
Just don't think its fair to slam my advice entirely given it is true forgotten worries and undead do make up a fair portion of the list.

Undeads aren't weak to crush, that advice is confusing at best.

As for forgotten warriors, those should be crushed at last resort, so if there are any people with a csb, they shouldn't be crushed.

So yeah, basically, your advice was very much terrible...


He asked which to crush and slash.
Of the choices its better to crush forgotten warriors.

Also sticking with assuming only crush/slash as options:
Ghosts
Skeletons
Crawling Hands
Spiritual Guardians

Are all undead where crush is better.
Only zombies and Nechs are better to slash (going from tht wiki list).

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I appreciate users giving more detailed advice in their responses but since one person already pointed out the flaws in Sy_Accursed's advice and presented better alternatives, there's no need to continue about it. (EDITED: poor choice of words, I'm asking both parties to stop, not just one :P)

If you see this poor advice continually presented though, please report it so we can look into it and contact the user in question. :)

Let's put it this way- I have never seen Sy answer a dungeoneering question in a way that isn't either bad/incomplete or plain wrong. Ever. He has no experience with the skill and yet insists on posting whatever misguided idea pops into his head rather than admitting that he doesn't know what he's talking about and letting other people take the question.


Well, I'll look into this then. But please in the future PM it to a moderator. Increasingly aggressive posting habits are understandable if you feel a problem has been left unchecked, but it puts you equally at risk for getting in trouble.

For the sake of the TC let's try to get back on topic; I'll be happy to discuss any further grievances via pm.

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Yeah I'm not saying it was the best advice ever and totally expected others to probably have better answers.
Just don't think its fair to slam my advice entirely given it is true forgotten worries and undead do make up a fair portion of the list.

Undeads aren't weak to crush, that advice is confusing at best.

As for forgotten warriors, those should be crushed at last resort, so if there are any people with a csb, they shouldn't be crushed.

So yeah, basically, your advice was very much terrible...


He asked which to crush and slash.
Of the choices its better to crush forgotten warriors.

Also sticking with assuming only crush/slash as options:
Ghosts
Skeletons
Crawling Hands
Spiritual Guardians

Are all undead where crush is better.
Only zombies and Nechs are better to slash (going from tht wiki list).

Why do you even try....? Ghosts are slash, crawling hands and spiritual guardians don't have enough defense, so slash is better for them. The only undeads that are really crush weak are skeletons. Mentioning them just as undeads is no advice at all.

Using rswiki as your source really isn't good enough.

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If the rswiki source isn't good enough why have you all happily let the op trot off using it as his guide rather than pointing him to a better one?

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When someone asks for some in depth DG advice... will those who are NOT keyers or wingmen in DGS please leave?

I'm not excluding myself. I would probally have given the same advice as Sy, but leave the DG questions to DGS

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