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[Kimberly]

Yeah but I don't find Quyneax's suggestions to be tiresome attempt to stay in the spotlight :(

[Nobody]

I just found it an amusing parallel between the two. Gene has always been limited by a fairly narrow viewpoint. While he does think his suggestions would work he doesn't necessarily understand the RS clan world/Jagex as well as he thinks he does. Although, to be fair, WG has survived longer than most other clans at this point Sabres, Gladz?, THE? being the exceptions. I sort of debate existing longer as a clan if you come from another game and eventually a large group moves to it. Sabres being the oldest followed by THE clan by that logic.

[Kimberly]

WG survived the decline of clans the way cockroaches survive the decline of humanity. They simply exist. His starry-eyed planning would never be successfully implemented because it went against what that community was.

 

 

[Quyneax]

Lol :D I'm sure that any WGs who read this will be pleased at that simile, as cockroaches can withstand huge amounts of radiation!

 

Yeah but I don't find Quyneax's suggestions to be tiresome attempt to stay in the spotlight :(

Hahahaha fooled them all!

 

Thank you.

 

I'm pretty pleased with this piece:

7. Agility. Agility has few benefits, especially at higher levels, and it takes a long time to train. People have wanted WASD movement in RuneScape for a long time. How do these tie together? They are both about movement. And since the action bar and the New Interface System have radically changed input with their customizable hotkeys, it’s possible to tie WASD and hotkey movement quite nicely into Agility. Essentially, all you need is a movement pattern - a manoeuvre - and a hotkey to run that pattern.

 

Imagine you have a customizable obstacle course shaped like a clan battlefield. To learn a manoeuvre, you need to design a course that incorporates it and repeat it a certain number of times, say twice for each level you need to learn a certain manoeuvre. The level requirement depends on the length of the path, the complexity of the

path and the speed you travel at - running it doesn’t cost extra, but skipping squares like the Surge ability requires greater Agility. For example:

• Level required to learn manoeuvre = 4 (number of squares travelled + ticks waited) + 20 (number of changes of direction + number of squares jumped)

This is plain regular movement, not specifically combat-related, but very usable in combat. The movement can be absolute, using the compass for directions, or relative, using character facing as guide. You can also choose between walking, running and ‘currently active movement mode’, set separately for each manoeuvre. Since manoeuvres are based on squares, you go through them faster when running, which is why it is important to be able to set movement mode. Each manoeuvre increases your fatigue by a certain amount, proportionate with the level requirement.

 

The biggest moves you could get would be moving 25 squares straight ahead, or a 24 tick delay before walking 1 square, or skipping 4 squares, or moving 10 squares and then moving 10 more in another direction and so on (remember, level 99 counts as level 100). There are lots of uses for this: agility courses are one, but also things like standing under a stunned enemy or kiting a Ket-Zek, moving around barricades or through the Sorceress’ Garden and even simply running from the Grand Exchange underwall tunnel to the Edgeville fairy ring.

 

If you rigidly apply this system, WASD movement would require level 4 agility for walking and level 8 for running (because running happens two squares at the time). However, it should be included as four free manoeuvres from level 1, for both absolute and relative movement. It would cost no more fatigue than regular movement. To make easy walking and running possible, the control key toggles the current run mode for one move action - ctrl-W when the default is ‘run’ makes you walk one up, ctrl-D when the default is ‘walk’ makes you run two to the right.

 

Hopefully, this system makes movement easier, allowing players to focus more on the tactics of the game, while also involving movement much more into those tactics than it is now. Combined with the updates to attack at range (see 4. Combat), easily performed complex movements make combat more interesting.

 

The biggest issue is that you're going to run out of hotkeys. You can never have both absolute and relative WASD available at the same time - maybe the shift key can do some good here - and diagonal movement would change it to QWEASDZX movement or something.

 

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Edit: 85 divination.

[Quyneax]

Here's a suggestion that's far too complicated (but I like it): Google docs cause don't want to format the tables into forum code. It's a direct copy-paste from the draft, so formatting may be off and not all parts are finished.

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Yes, the lines are a bit blurry. Meh.

 

Red box = combined in bottom layer.

Blue boxes = combined in middle layer & bottom layer.

Black boxes = individual slots (top layer & slots not part of layers).

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Edit: some comments on the above.

I'm going to assume people will switch between off-hand and shield for three combat styles (or two, three is more for no-risk fighting), and a platebody for each style (that's 2 mh weapons, 2 platebodies, 2 oh weapons and at least one shield, for 7 switches total). If you want to bring a two-hander to bust through shields as well, add 1-2 more slots. That's enough switches imo. The whole bottom layer isn't worth switching anyway, it's just three slots that determine your basic lookout, e.g. choice of damage, soak, accuracy and so on, for each slot. It's the middle and top layers that take the place of the current armour slots, with actual attack/defence penalties. Of course you could switch boots/gloves and stuff for extra bonuses, but I think tribrid items, like barrows gloves, should be very good, e.g. arma/bandos/subj gloves being only a little better, not being worth switching (unless you were super switching like Stev). It's part of the diminishing returns for apm, so platebody switching is a big boost, legs a bit less, gloves a bit less still and so on until capes, which are not worth switching because comp cape exists.

 

If you're wearing a mail shirt, which has a small magic attack penalty, you could still wear a robe on top and get decent magic attack. If you wanted to switch the shirt, you'd have to take off the robe first.

 

You could do a 'deep' switch, switching two-layer items, but you'd need more switches because only 3 slots combine into an item. You wouldn't need to take your platebody off to switch the middle layer, at least.

 

If we're talking about balancing magic and ranged, maybe there needs to be an ammo slot for each, like a 'spell pouch' and 'quiver'. Inventory-held runes are technically a disadvantage for magic. Switching ammo is technically a disadvantage for range/mage brid vs. range/melee. The difference would be pretty small though.

 

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Anyway this is all speculative, it'll need some work to be clear and straightforward and balanced and whatnot.

[Aiel]

how would the multi slot items work? would you just not be able to equip the other items with it equiped?

[Quyneax]

how would the multi slot items work? would you just not be able to equip the other items with it equiped?

Exactly like 2h weapons block the shield slot.

 

Edit: got war-priest helmet.

 

Equipping war-priest boots, gloves and helmet is the same as worse than equipping dragon boots, black dragonhide vambraces and grifolic visor.

[Quyneax]

86 divination.

[Quyneax]

5 tasks left:

- Altar a frost dragon bone

- Use a portent of passage V or up

- Three's company 100%

- All sagas

- 20+ items in sinkhole

[Abdulla]

Would you take the name Q on rs if it was available?

[Quyneax]

Probably not, it's more of a nickname. I like my character having a 'name' name, it looks nice in quests.

[Aiel]

everyone knows Q is a title anyway.

[Saradomin_Mage]

Mierin the Q?

 

or more like Mierin the QT hahaha geddit

[Quyneax]

q.t. (plural q.t.s)

Alternative form of qt.

 

QT

(software) Initialism of Quick Time.

 

Qt

(computing) Initialism of Qt framework.

 

qt (plural qts)

Quart.

(slang) Abbreviation for quiet. Also Q.T. or q.t. Used in the expression on the Q.T., meaning "secretly" or "in confidence."

(slang) cutie - a homophone derived from the pronunciation of "QT".

Quality time.

 

or Quantum Theory I suppose.

[Aiel]

obviously meant as an abbreviation for quiet.

EDIT:

Also,

"See the hos flock to you when your name is Q"

[Quyneax]

^Not the real Q tbh. The real Q has a flock of umbrella hippos (related to the alot).

 

3 tasks to go, 3/5 sagas, frost dragon and portent. The last two are horrible, I've done 10 meds now and no luck, making a portent every floor as well.

[chenw]

If you are Q does that make him R?

[Quyneax]

Hmmm... maybe he is dQ/dX?

 

Only the Nadir saga left for taskmaster :).

[Aiel]

int(Q dQ)?

[chenw]

dW = dQ - PdV

[Quyneax]

Got taskmaster back, spent lamps on summoning (cause cba waiting for div... stupid lamps. I hate lamps). Hit 15m summoning. Did f1 solo med hard mode: two dry gazers, two t11 drops from the boss (Astea) so I have cele wand bound now. I really hope we get some sort of off-hand bind soon because 2hs are still dominating -.-.

[Saradomin_Mage]

dW = dQ - PdV

This sounds vaguely familiar, but what is it?

[Thai_tong]

 

dW = dQ - PdV

This sounds vaguely familiar, but what is it?

 

iirc an increment of work dW done on a system causes the difference between an incremental increase in thermal energy of the system dQ and the work done on the system's surroundings when a pressure P acts through a volume dV.

But the d in front of W and Q should be deltas.

[Saradomin_Mage]

Oh yeah, thermodynamics.

[PolarBearBlue]

Oh yeah, thermodynamics.

The class that made me become an Economics major.

inb4indifferencecurvecurvejoke.