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Taken from Zybez, originally from RV forums:

 

I believe that everyone knows by now that Runevillage's gold status has now been revoked by Jagex due to Hiker being on the sex offender's register. If you haven't seen the topic, it can be seen here: [no link]

It has been found out that he was once convicted of distributing child porn, attempting to groom a young boy on the internet and sexual battery of a 14 year old boy. He was also accused of kidnapping and giving drugs to him of which he was not convicted. It's a very sad day for Runevillage which has now been destroyed and all credibility stripped away because of an untrustworthy site admin. Hiker, we would all like to know why you kept this a secret. Most of us joined this site as children and I believe everyone had a right to know what you did. You should not of been allowed to make a website for kids but now the truth is out I think the question on everyone's mind is, why? Why would you do that? Why would you allow this to go on for so long? You must of known this would come out one day. So again, I ask you to please explain to the people who have been loyal to you and this site for so many years because now, there's nothing left to stay here for.

 

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He was convicted of attempting to 'groom' a young boy over the internet. I suppose I was wrong that he wasn't capable of it. Oh well. He was also arrested for transferring photos of minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct, twice. Once by mail, and once by computer.

 

I obviously am reading the info in the screen caps wrong, but where does it say he was convicted of attempts to groom or sexual battery?

 

Yeah, I too am curious to know where that above information has come from.

 

And being caught with a picture of a teenage girl and being labeled a sex offender at the age of 18 or similar, is quite different than being caught at the age of 46. He didn't receive those images in college and sent them on to some of his homies.

 

The information is from Zybez, sans the URLs that link to law enforcement pages. The bolded part was retrieved from RuneVillage forums and reposted on Zybez. I have no idea if the charges of 'sexually grooming a minor' in the bolded are true, considering I don't know where the RV people found that information from. However, the owner of RV was quoted in the OP here saying he pleaded to 'unspecified charges' of sexual battery.

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Just pisses me off how people are so quick to judge this person as, read one post above mine for example, a slimeball and a creep. Maybe he is. Maybe he isn't. Do I think his story is true? Maybe. Do I think he's some sort of pervert that deserved what happened to him? Maybe. I don't know the full details of it, and I can easily imagine a scenario that I find plausible in which he doesn't do anything I, or many others, would consider particularly wrong. As it has been pointed out many times, sexual offender laws are written in a way that it is very easy to be innocent of doing anything actually wrong, aside from being a straight man with a penis and a healthy amount of testosterone, and get labelled a sex offender.

 

Arrested for Statutory rape, pled down to sexual battery - later was caught sharing child porn and the people at zybez say he was also living with a child rapist.

 

He's a creep.

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Taken from Zybez, originally from RV forums:

 

I believe that everyone knows by now that Runevillage's gold status has now been revoked by Jagex due to Hiker being on the sex offender's register. If you haven't seen the topic, it can be seen here: [no link]

It has been found out that he was once convicted of distributing child porn, attempting to groom a young boy on the internet and sexual battery of a 14 year old boy. He was also accused of kidnapping and giving drugs to him of which he was not convicted. It's a very sad day for Runevillage which has now been destroyed and all credibility stripped away because of an untrustworthy site admin. Hiker, we would all like to know why you kept this a secret. Most of us joined this site as children and I believe everyone had a right to know what you did. You should not of been allowed to make a website for kids but now the truth is out I think the question on everyone's mind is, why? Why would you do that? Why would you allow this to go on for so long? You must of known this would come out one day. So again, I ask you to please explain to the people who have been loyal to you and this site for so many years because now, there's nothing left to stay here for.

 

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He was convicted of attempting to 'groom' a young boy over the internet. I suppose I was wrong that he wasn't capable of it. Oh well. He was also arrested for transferring photos of minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct, twice. Once by mail, and once by computer.

 

I obviously am reading the info in the screen caps wrong, but where does it say he was convicted of attempts to groom or sexual battery?

 

Yeah, I too am curious to know where that above information has come from.

 

And being caught with a picture of a teenage girl and being labeled a sex offender at the age of 18 or similar, is quite different than being caught at the age of 46. He didn't receive those images in college and sent them on to some of his homies.

 

The information is from Zybez, sans the URLs that link to law enforcement pages. The bolded part was retrieved from RuneVillage forums and reposted on Zybez. I have no idea if the charges of 'sexually grooming a minor' in the bolded are true, considering I don't know where the RV people found that information from. However, the owner of RV was quoted in the OP here saying he pleaded to 'unspecified charges' of sexual battery.

 

 

 

Honestly, the classification of "VIOLENT" is enough for me to decide that Jagex did exactly the right thing with the information they had.

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Taken from Zybez, originally from RV forums:

 

I believe that everyone knows by now that Runevillage's gold status has now been revoked by Jagex due to Hiker being on the sex offender's register. If you haven't seen the topic, it can be seen here: [no link]

It has been found out that he was once convicted of distributing child porn, attempting to groom a young boy on the internet and sexual battery of a 14 year old boy. He was also accused of kidnapping and giving drugs to him of which he was not convicted. It's a very sad day for Runevillage which has now been destroyed and all credibility stripped away because of an untrustworthy site admin. Hiker, we would all like to know why you kept this a secret. Most of us joined this site as children and I believe everyone had a right to know what you did. You should not of been allowed to make a website for kids but now the truth is out I think the question on everyone's mind is, why? Why would you do that? Why would you allow this to go on for so long? You must of known this would come out one day. So again, I ask you to please explain to the people who have been loyal to you and this site for so many years because now, there's nothing left to stay here for.

 

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He was convicted of attempting to 'groom' a young boy over the internet. I suppose I was wrong that he wasn't capable of it. Oh well. He was also arrested for transferring photos of minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct, twice. Once by mail, and once by computer.

 

I obviously am reading the info in the screen caps wrong, but where does it say he was convicted of attempts to groom or sexual battery?

 

Yeah, I too am curious to know where that above information has come from.

 

And being caught with a picture of a teenage girl and being labeled a sex offender at the age of 18 or similar, is quite different than being caught at the age of 46. He didn't receive those images in college and sent them on to some of his homies.

 

The information is from Zybez, sans the URLs that link to law enforcement pages. The bolded part was retrieved from RuneVillage forums and reposted on Zybez. I have no idea if the charges of 'sexually grooming a minor' in the bolded are true, considering I don't know where the RV people found that information from. However, the owner of RV was quoted in the OP here saying he pleaded to 'unspecified charges' of sexual battery.

 

 

 

Honestly, the classification of "VIOLENT" is enough for me to decide that Jagex did exactly the right thing with the information they had.

 

I can definitely agree with Jagex's decision to terminate him. The man, despite his claims to the contrary, may still be a violent offender. Though, I think posing about it after, as if they actually contributed to the safety of the community (the safety measures had already been taken by RV and the courts long ago, as Ginger said) brings unwarranted attention to the case. That said, they more likely did it to eradicate what they perceived as a threat to their reputation (as if bots aren't a threat by themselves). I agree with their decision to distance themselves from him, but they could've quietly done it, and as they are a private company, they have no obligation to justify their actions to any party outside the law (the legal process had long been finished when Jagex found out).

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The information is from Zybez, sans the URLs that link to law enforcement pages. The bolded part was retrieved from RuneVillage forums and reposted on Zybez. I have no idea if the charges of 'sexually grooming a minor' in the bolded are true, considering I don't know where the RV people found that information from. However, the owner of RV was quoted in the OP here saying he pleaded to 'unspecified charges' of sexual battery.

 

You got it wrong. He was never CONVICTED of attempting to groom a child, he was CHARGED with that but it got dropped. MASSIVE difference between being charged and being convicted.

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IMO, the sex offender registry is way to broad to be of any use to anyone. It seems to exist purely to ruin the lives of anyone who was ever convicted of anything even remotely related to sexual misconduct. There are just so many stupid things that get people on that list that I find it impossible to put stock in someone being on it. If only it was limited to actual predators.

 

Anyways, I am going to have to agree with Jagex. They really can't be seen to be supporting a fan site for a game with mostly underage children that is run by a convicted sex offender. It doesn't really matter what he did, that is just a PR problem that can't fly. And at the end of the day, I think I agree with them releasing the reason too.

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The information is from Zybez, sans the URLs that link to law enforcement pages. The bolded part was retrieved from RuneVillage forums and reposted on Zybez. I have no idea if the charges of 'sexually grooming a minor' in the bolded are true, considering I don't know where the RV people found that information from. However, the owner of RV was quoted in the OP here saying he pleaded to 'unspecified charges' of sexual battery.

 

You got it wrong. He was never CONVICTED of attempting to groom a child, he was CHARGED with that but it got dropped. MASSIVE difference between being charged and being convicted.

 

I meant charged in the first post :P Edited to reflect correct changes.

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IMO, the sex offender registry is way to broad to be of any use to anyone. It seems to exist purely to ruin the lives of anyone who was ever convicted of anything even remotely related to sexual misconduct. There are just so many stupid things that get people on that list that I find it impossible to put stock in someone being on it. If only it was limited to actual predators.

 

Anyways, I am going to have to agree with Jagex. They really can't be seen to be supporting a fan site for a game with mostly underage children that is run by a convicted sex offender. It doesn't really matter what he did, that is just a PR problem that can't fly. And at the end of the day, I think I agree with them releasing the reason too.

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There is such a list for real?

 

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You know, it's one thing to be a protected teenager, with parents keeping a watchful eye over you – it's quite another to be the parent of that same child, who constantly worries about their well-being.

 

To be honest, I have never understood the bizarre reasoning behind the perceived "invulnerability" of teenagers. It's almost as though there are absolutely no dangers out there, whatsoever. It's uncanny, really. My own teenagers are, I swear, in a conspiracy to see which of them can give me gray hairs before the other. None have succeeded yet, but they're due – any day now. Both my boys have recently developed this ridiculous sense of "absolutes": everything has always/never been the way things are right now/before, and no amount of reminders of their own past experience to the contrary – or the real life experience of their own parents – is ever going to dissuade them from believing that reality is any different – not even when reality is staring them directly in the face. Instead, they plunge headforth into impending disaster at almost the same rate as one telling them: "I told you so" ...

 

If you have children – and/or if you've ever been sexually/physically abused by another person – you'd understand and appreciate just how incredibly vulnerable children really are. But you don't, you aren't and you haven't been. Yet.

 

No – not yet.

 

Sexual predators aren't "human" – not in the sense that one considers other human beings as "human" – but none of you would understand that unless you've actually been face to face with one. There's a reason they're called "predators" – they literally "feed" on the feelings of empowerment they receive, while they strip you of all your dignity. They feed on your despair. They live to dominate and control you in every way possible. They leave you feeling like less than filth.

 

It takes a lot to reclaim someone who's been victimized in this fashion. It takes a virtual rebuilding of one's own personae. One's own sense of self doesn't come back overnight. It takes a very long time.

 

... and there is no rehabilitation for sexual predators – none whatsoever – because the criminal justice system doesn't do anything for them – there's no effort made to retrain them. And if they did try, it wouldn't "fix" them anyways.

 

... and they certainly don't punish these animals long enough for the heinous crimes that they commit. The chances that any such being has recanted his previous infatuations is slim, at best, and most likely not at all. They do their minimal time in prison, are released, and re-offend. Wash, rinse, repeat.

 

But please, feel free to defend sexual predators – especially since you don't know any, never truly encountered one, or anything else like them. That's the best time to defend them, really.

 

... because you're all ... invulnerable ...

 

In any event, please, feel free to elucidate further on the injustice of this creature's perceived circumstances – hell, I'm somewhat surprised that no one's blamed the victims, yet.

 

Well, speaking for myself, the defense I'm trying to make is that a person who is legally classified as a Sex Offender is NOT the same as an actual Sexual Predator. See the next quote:

 

IMO, the sex offender registry is way to broad to be of any use to anyone. It seems to exist purely to ruin the lives of anyone who was ever convicted of anything even remotely related to sexual misconduct. There are just so many stupid things that get people on that list that I find it impossible to put stock in someone being on it. If only it was limited to actual predators.

 

Anyways, I am going to have to agree with Jagex. They really can't be seen to be supporting a fan site for a game with mostly underage children that is run by a convicted sex offender. It doesn't really matter what he did, that is just a PR problem that can't fly. And at the end of the day, I think I agree with them releasing the reason too.

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That being said, if I believed the government was capable of distinguishing between sexual predators and a guy making a mistake with a younger/drunker person, I'd be all for life imprisonment of sexual predators. Or just castration, since that's probably cheaper and more then likely has the same effect.

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That being said, if I believed the government was capable of distinguishing between sexual predators and a guy making a mistake with a younger/drunker person, I'd be all for life imprisonment of sexual predators. Or just castration, since that's probably cheaper and more then likely has the same effect.

 

I fail to see how cognitive impairment is an acceptable excuse for sexual assault.

 

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That being said, if I believed the government was capable of distinguishing between sexual predators and a guy making a mistake with a younger/drunker person, I'd be all for life imprisonment of sexual predators. Or just castration, since that's probably cheaper and more then likely has the same effect.

 

Sexual predators don't care about the sex specifically, but the control and the abuse of the other person. Castration wouldn't prevent it. The behavior pattern is the issue, not the physical method that it is carried out.

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That 16-18 law in the US is stupid always has been imo.

That law still exists in the UK, it's just almost never used unless the kid is in serious danger, in which case the police and social services would have a reason to get involved anyway. I'd agree if you'd have said the enforcement of that law is stupid and always has been.

 

 

 

No I'm pretty sure I am correct, it's only if the person over 18 is in a position of trust.

 

It's pretty significantly difference, and nothing like the law in the US.

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That being said, if I believed the government was capable of distinguishing between sexual predators and a guy making a mistake with a younger/drunker person, I'd be all for life imprisonment of sexual predators. Or just castration, since that's probably cheaper and more then likely has the same effect.

 

I fail to see how cognitive impairment is an acceptable excuse for sexual assault.

 

Am I misunderstanding you?

 

If the young person witholds their age with the person they're engaging with or lies about it, and ends up regretting it with the realization that getting "SO TOTALLY WASTED LOL" isn't what it lives up to be, they can ruin the lives of the person they slept with using just a single lie. It's not that big of a leap of logic to assume the worst of people in a situation.

 

I honestly don't think anyone here is saying, "Well if they're drunk that's free permission to rape them."

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Squab, I wasn't quick to judge him. I took the time to read and get all the information I could about the topic. With all the information I was able to view, I judge him as a creep. He is a shady, shady person.

 

Hell, nothing wrong with being a sexual deviant, as long as it is all between consenting adults. When you bring in minor, you are bring in something that will screw your life up forever and you deserve everything that comes to you.

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You know, it's one thing to be a protected teenager, with parents keeping a watchful eye over you it's quite another to be the parent of that same child, who constantly worries about their well-being.

 

To be honest, I have never understood the bizarre reasoning behind the perceived "invulnerability" of teenagers. It's almost as though there are absolutely no dangers out there, whatsoever. It's uncanny, really. My own teenagers are, I swear, in a conspiracy to see which of them can give me gray hairs before the other. None have succeeded yet, but they're due any day now. Both my boys have recently developed this ridiculous sense of "absolutes": everything has always/never been the way things are right now/before, and no amount of reminders of their own past experience to the contrary or the real life experience of their own parents is ever going to dissuade them from believing that reality is any different not even when reality is staring them directly in the face. Instead, they plunge headforth into impending disaster at almost the same rate as one telling them: "I told you so" ...

 

If you have children and/or if you've ever been sexually/physically abused by another person you'd understand and appreciate just how incredibly vulnerable children really are. But you don't, you aren't and you haven't been. Yet.

 

No not yet.

 

Sexual predators aren't "human" not in the sense that one considers other human beings as "human" but none of you would understand that unless you've actually been face to face with one. There's a reason they're called "predators" they literally "feed" on the feelings of empowerment they receive, while they strip you of all your dignity. They feed on your despair. They live to dominate and control you in every way possible. They leave you feeling like less than filth.

 

It takes a lot to reclaim someone who's been victimized in this fashion. It takes a virtual rebuilding of one's own personae. One's own sense of self doesn't come back overnight. It takes a very long time.

 

... and there is no rehabilitation for sexual predators none whatsoever because the criminal justice system doesn't do anything for them there's no effort made to retrain them. And if they did try, it wouldn't "fix" them anyways.

 

... and they certainly don't punish these animals long enough for the heinous crimes that they commit. The chances that any such being has recanted his previous infatuations is slim, at best, and most likely not at all. They do their minimal time in prison, are released, and re-offend. Wash, rinse, repeat.

 

But please, feel free to defend sexual predators especially since you don't know any, never truly encountered one, or anything else like them. That's the best time to defend them, really.

 

... because you're all ... invulnerable ...

 

In any event, please, feel free to elucidate further on the injustice of this creature's perceived circumstances hell, I'm somewhat surprised that no one's blamed the victims, yet.

 

Wow, this is just extremely disrespectful, and I can't believe you took the time out of your day to spew this hate filled post and claim that those who are abused must feel this way. I was abused around 8 years old till I believe as far as I can remember around 10, although the timing could be off because I honestly can't piece together an actual timeline of my earlier life. My stepbrother abused me almost every weekend, and unfortunately the issue isn't that predators are innately inhuman, it's that they are extremely human and can be pretty much the last people you'd expect. I'm not sure I'll ever really be who I was meant to be before the abuse started because I was still forming who I was at the time. What the abuse left me with was sadness, anger, and unfortunately a lot of empathy for almost anyone. It would be a lot easier to be able to say that all sexual predators are in-human abominations but I have encountered one and except for the abusing he was normal. You claim that the chances that he recanted his previous infatuations are slim, I agree, but just as not every man who is attracted to a woman is a rapist, not every person who is attracted to teens is a molester. He served his time, and is now under court supervision. This situation could have been dealt with quietly instead of rehashing old crimes in a public forum and bringing others with their hate filled vitriol similar to yours, or trolls just happy for an easy target down on Runevillage. As a victim of abuse, that's MY take on the matter, next time don't make claims as if you speak for everyone and don't throw around assumptions that aren't true.

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That being said, if I believed the government was capable of distinguishing between sexual predators and a guy making a mistake with a younger/drunker person, I'd be all for life imprisonment of sexual predators. Or just castration, since that's probably cheaper and more then likely has the same effect.

 

While I appreciate this sentiment, and cannot say that I disagree with it -- I can say that, in the end, all we're attaining with respect to the latter option is more likely a modicum of revenge. Not that there is anything wrong with that. As for life imprisonment, sure -- in the end, that is the far better option.

 

Wow, this is just extremely disrespectful, and I can't believe you took the time out of your day to spew this hate filled post and claim that those who are abused must feel this way. I was abused around 8 years old till I believe as far as I can remember around 10, although the timing could be off because I honestly can't piece together an actual timeline of my earlier life. My stepbrother abused me almost every weekend, and unfortunately the issue isn't that predators are innately inhuman, it's that they are extremely human and can be pretty much the last people you'd expect. I'm not sure I'll ever really be who I was meant to be before the abuse started because I was still forming who I was at the time. What the abuse left me with was sadness, anger, and unfortunately a lot of empathy for almost anyone. It would be a lot easier to be able to say that all sexual predators are in-human abominations but I have encountered one and except for the abusing he was normal. You claim that the chances that he recanted his previous infatuations are slim, I agree, but just as not every man who is attracted to a woman is a rapist, not every person who is attracted to teens is a molester. He served his time, and is now under court supervision. This situation could have been dealt with quietly instead of rehashing old crimes in a public forum and bringing others with their hate filled vitriol similar to yours, or trolls just happy for an easy target down on Runevillage. As a victim of abuse, that's MY take on the matter, next time don't make claims as if you speak for everyone and don't throw around assumptions that aren't true.

 

You know -- I should respond to this -- I really should, especially since you took the time to create a whole separate account for it. But, honestly, I find it difficult to take it seriously ...

 

Perhaps, if you hadn't created the whole separate account for it, I could tell whether or not I was being trolled.

 

If you're serious -- then fine -- it's nice to know you've somehow managed to come to grips with your issues. I'm not about to engage in your psychotherapy sessions herein, but I am somewhat taken aback by the odd manner in which you've humanized your abuser as, with the exception of the abuse, being otherwise "normal" ...

 

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Sexual predators aren't "human" not in the sense that one considers other human beings as "human" but none of you would understand that unless you've actually been face to face with one. There's a reason they're called "predators" they literally "feed" on the feelings of empowerment they receive, while they strip you of all your dignity. They feed on your despair. They live to dominate and control you in every way possible. They leave you feeling like less than filth.

 

So they aren't human? You realise, that it's not just sexual predators who feed off empowerment, despair, domination and control, right? Hell. Some would even argue that's the role a wife (albeit a terrible sexist view).

 

I have stared into the eyes of a sexual predator - one who knew I knew, but also knew I wasn't able to say a thing. You know what made it so much harder for me? She was a FRIEND before the events that transpired. You can dehumanise these people all you want, but it simply is hogwash. These people have families. Friends. Co-workers. You strip these people of a right to feel anything by simply putting predators in the "non-human" pile.

 

And there have been many predators who have lived (up to the point) regular lives. Heck, watching the old To Catch A Predator segments from NBC will show you just that.

 

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I would just like how to point out how we're suppose to be living in post-Enlightment countries and yet the mainstream cultures, a long with many people here, have such childish notions of justice. Not only justice, but dehumanizing people that they perceive as evil as not human, a bit primitive.

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I would just like how to point out how we're suppose to be living in post-Enlightment countries and yet the mainstream cultures, a long with many people here, have such childish notions of justice. Not only justice, but dehumanizing people that they perceive as evil as not human, a bit primitive.

Exactly. I'm sure some sex offenders are predators in the stereotypical sense. I'm also equally sure that some sex offenders are normal people who don't have the self-control to keep their sexual urges in check. And in a society that discourages self-control, I'm not at all surprised to see this happening frequently.

 

Blyaunte: I find it interesting that in your post you make it quite clear that you discourage your kids from applying a label of "black and white" to anything; and then you go on to do exactly that with your description of sex offenders.

 

Forgive me if this seems naive, but I'm more inclined to listen to the opinion of someone who's been abused rather than someone who's judging from an armchair.

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I would just like how to point out how we're suppose to be living in post-Enlightment countries and yet the mainstream cultures, a long with many people here, have such childish notions of justice. Not only justice, but dehumanizing people that they perceive as evil as not human, a bit primitive.

 

Because some acts humans commit are truly sickening, leading to people questioning if they deserve the title of human.

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I would just like how to point out how we're suppose to be living in post-Enlightment countries and yet the mainstream cultures, a long with many people here, have such childish notions of justice. Not only justice, but dehumanizing people that they perceive as evil as not human, a bit primitive.

 

Because some acts humans commit are truly sickening, leading to people questioning if they deserve the title of human.

 

I'm not sure it's a title you earn or deserve, I think it's something you are or arnt. Obviously I get your point though. You can't really blame people if they call these people "sickening" or "monsters" after all what should be our trusted legal system has decided they committed these crimes and they trust that.

 

Personally, I keep an open mind because it wouldn't be the first case where the legal system was wrong.

 

In this case he admits it, and uses excuses it was recently legal & changed, and tries to say teenagers like that makes it better, a thirteen year old is a teen..

 

Just because it was previously legal at the time of committing the offence, does not mean it's right. Maybe the law wasn't in place because it hadnt been thought of.

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I would just like how to point out how we're suppose to be living in post-Enlightment countries and yet the mainstream cultures, a long with many people here, have such childish notions of justice. Not only justice, but dehumanizing people that they perceive as evil as not human, a bit primitive.

Exactly. I'm sure some sex offenders are predators in the stereotypical sense. I'm also equally sure that some sex offenders are normal people who don't have the self-control to keep their sexual urges in check. And in a society that discourages self-control, I'm not at all surprised to see this happening frequently.

 

Blyaunte: I find it interesting that in your post you make it quite clear that you discourage your kids from applying a label of "black and white" to anything; and then you go on to do exactly that with your description of sex offenders.

 

Forgive me if this seems naive, but I'm more inclined to listen to the opinion of someone who's been abused rather than someone who's judging from an armchair.

 

Where did you get the idea that I've never been abused?

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I guess its time for Tip.it thought police to examine their own nice team.

 

Could be a future requirement to ask people to declare if they are on a sex offenders register.

That would be "none of your business" reply then.

 

Really, should we in the future proof our whole life, tell where we drink our beers at night. Show who your friends are, tell your hobbies?

First they came to fishing

and I didn't speak out because I wasn't fishing

 

Then they came to the yews

and I didn't speak out because I didn't cut yews

 

Then they came for the ores

and I didn't speak out because I didn't collect ores

 

Then they came for me

and there was no one left to speak out for me.

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