What is the best bow to bind in Dung now?

[Swiller2]

Is hexhunter still the best? Or is a saggi long/short better now? I thought hex was still king but someone told me it's not as powerful anymore?

 

Just asking cause I'm looking to bind best bow since i recently maxed range.

 

Thanks :)

[Octarine]

Saggi short is now the best, since hex had its damage boost removed.

 

I'd like to think the damage boost removal is a bug, but you never know with jagex =/

[Swiller2]

Thanks Octarine

[Stev]

It's still hexhunter > sagi short > etc. :P.

[Unknown_Warrior]

It's still hexhunter > sagi short > etc. :P.

 

Why?

[Kaur]

Saggi short has higher dps, hex is a useless shield/bow thingy.

They promised to buff hex in the near future(read: in 5 years) so I would still keep it bound just in case considering how hard it is to get it.

[Sy_Accursed]

With dual wielding and some 'imp' thing happening to dg next week it may all change soon.

[Rinc3Wind]

The way Jagex is running around nerfing, boosting and nerfing all over again, you can never be sure.

[Stev]

With dual wielding and some 'imp' thing happening to dg next week it may all change soon.

Thank you for reminding me to get my ass in gear with online DGSweeper! Lol.

 

It's still hexhunter > sagi short > etc. :P.

 

Why?

I've not DGed enough lately for my opinion to be reliable... But it's in DGS' requirements, which I trust to say: If there was another bow that was even remotely better, DGS would require breaking hex for it. :P.

[Quest_Cape_K]

Saggi short is definitely better for DPS.

[Golvellius]

(Sagittarian longbow = Hexhunter bow ) > Sagittarian shortbow.

If you are autoattacking then you are doing it wrong.

[Unknown_Warrior]

With dual wielding and some 'imp' thing happening to dg next week it may all change soon.

Thank you for reminding me to get my ass in gear with online DGSweeper! Lol.

 

It's still hexhunter > sagi short > etc. :P.

 

Why?

I've not DGed enough lately for my opinion to be reliable... But it's in DGS' requirements, which I trust to say: If there was another bow that was even remotely better, DGS would require breaking hex for it. :P.

 

 

I don't think that thread has been updated for a while.

In any case, as it stands, Hexhunter bow has 50% less DPS than a Sagitarrian shortbow. To bind that over a saggi short is ludicrous. Granted, you get more defences but last I checked DGS never cared for surviving.

 

 

 

Sag Shieldbow = Hexhunter > sagi short.

If you are autoattacking then you are doing it wrong.

 

This doesn't make sense. At all.

[Sy_Accursed]

I have to say I've found it hard to put much weight in DGS reqs since the eoc updates.

 

Bind 1: Primal 2h > Primal Maul > Primal Spear > Prom 2h > Prom Maul > Gorg 2h.

Why exactly? I was under the impression that in a given tier 2h = spear = maul in terms of overall DPS, so whilst a maul may lose out a bit due to being slower why are the other 2 uneven? Just seems kinda like legacy of old habits without really solid reasoning imo. (Though I must admit I haven't looked far into any solid data)

 

And more importantly, to my eyes is this:

Bind 4: Blood necklace > Hood.

Bind 5: Blood necklace > Hood.

So if BN > Hood in BOTH slots it would appear you are suggesting have 2 BN, which is utterly redundant. So I'd be generous and assume it really ought to be:

Bind 4 Blood Necklace > Hood

Bind 5 Hood

Ergo you have BN and hood in ideal set.

 

But then I was under the impression that even with eoc for BN to be utilised most you wanna be piled rendered bn + hood a bad thing so why?

[xpx]

All the stupidity aside, hex and saggi short are very similar in terms of dps, actually. That is mostly due to the speed, which most people don't seem to understand. Overall, for abilities alone, hex has maybe 1-2% less dps, but due to the increased speed hex can make up for it. You also get an increased lp and def boost with hex so it's still overall more useful, so i'd say use hex if you can and sag otherwise.

[Alg]

Why exactly? I was under the impression that in a given tier 2h = spear = maul in terms of overall DPS, so whilst a maul may lose out a bit due to being slower why are the other 2 uneven? Just seems kinda like legacy of old habits without really solid reasoning imo. (Though I must admit I haven't looked far into any solid data)

I think it's because there are only a handful of monsters in Daemonheim with a weakness to stab (Ramokee Deathslinger, seekers), so you're better off with something that can get the additional accuracy bonus on many of the more common enemies (shades and rangers).

 

I have no idea how relevant this is after the update that made accuracy follow an exponential, though.

[Quyneax]

All the stupidity aside, hex and saggi short are very similar in terms of dps, actually. That is mostly due to the speed, which most people don't seem to understand. Overall, for abilities alone, hex has maybe 1-2% less dps, but due to the increased speed hex can make up for it. You also get an increased lp and def boost with hex so it's still overall more useful, so i'd say use hex if you can and sag otherwise.

Hex lost its bonus damage in the recent dual wield rebalance. It is now exactly a tier 98 ranged weapon, and a shieldbow at that. Sagittarian shortbow is 2h, so it has a lot more dps.

[Unknown_Warrior]

All the stupidity aside, hex and saggi short are very similar in terms of dps, actually. That is mostly due to the speed, which most people don't seem to understand. Overall, for abilities alone, hex has maybe 1-2% less dps, but due to the increased speed hex can make up for it. You also get an increased lp and def boost with hex so it's still overall more useful, so i'd say use hex if you can and sag otherwise.

 

Stupidity eh?

Hexhunter (with Sagittarian arrows, as it has no damage buff on its own, it relies solely on arrows) is 1049 at fastest (x1.0)

Sagittarian short is 918+1049 (arrows) = 1967 at fast (x0.8), that means it has 1574 damage output.

 

1574:1049 is almost exactly 3:2. That's not close in DPS.

As it currently is, Hexhunter is just a lousy Sagittarian longbow and an even lousier Sagittarian shortbow.

[Tui]

Because not being immediately aware of an update makes you stupid.

[Tnt6200]

Granted, you get more defences but last I checked DGS never cared for surviving.

 

An efficiency-based floor is a floor that balances speed and survival in order to achieve the highest possible exp/h for the team. All DGS floors should be considered efficiency-based unless stated otherwise. These floors test nearly all aspects of a player's knowledge, with a focus on pathing and efficient survival. Many higher ranks approach floors as if they were speed floors, which often lowers times drastically. No one is expected to suicide in an efficiency-based floor, however, so do not feel pressured to do so.

 

Lol o.

 

Anyway, as kaur said, they will buff hex eventually so I would just keep it. You could bind sagi short and hex because there are <----------------------------> bind slots.