Power to the Players - New Poll System.

[Grand Lord Dan]

Is it bad I will likely only be voting for the Elf city not because I'm hyped for it (I'm not really caring at all for it specifically (Just the quest that follows)), but because I just really don't want another skill?  If they actually make it not a nightmare to raise, maybe I'd be fine with it, but their track record isn't too good as of late...

[Quyneax]

The thing about this poll is: they haven't even moved past the most general concepting for these updates, so we basically don't even know what we're choosing. If the elf city has something awesome like a teaming area for Dungeoneering right next to a GE, Ports portal and ten herb patches (no reason why it'd have this, but say), then yes, I want the city. On the other hand, if it's going to feature lots of t70 equipment that degrades to crystal seeds, and 100k fishing (or woodcutting, mining etc.) xp/h (afk), then screw it. I think the best reaction is to simply ignore the whole vote, but okay.

 

It's a bit like a political party asking: "Do you want freedom or dignity?" without specifying what that means for policy.

[Urza285]

The thing about this poll is: they haven't even moved past the most general concepting for these updates, so we basically don't even know what we're choosing. If the elf city has something awesome like a teaming area for Dungeoneering right next to a GE, Ports portal and ten herb patches (no reason why it'd have this, but say), then yes, I want the city. On the other hand, if it's going to feature lots of t70 equipment that degrades to crystal seeds, and 100k fishing (or woodcutting, mining etc.) xp/h (afk), then screw it. I think the best reaction is to simply ignore the whole vote, but okay.

 

It's a bit like a political party asking: "Do you want freedom or dignity?" without specifying what that means for policy.

And finally someone hitd the nail on the head tge right way! That's the issue... the pretty much had mod mark scripted for every single inventor skill video briefing for the public from runefest, january bts and even up to bts 86. The elf city could easily win this poll without its 8 year tenure. Just using how much jmod talk has been thrown about over the elf city/finale potential concept it would win.

[V O R K]

Revenants most definetly are not ghosts.

 

Old minigames don't need reworking, we need a new one!

 

Puppetmod Pi, keeping the PVP crowd warm with lies and slander.

[Alg]

The city has been discussed and mulled over for 8 years as someone has said earlier. That is long enough to hype every remote veteran/dedicated player of runescape. On top of that there have been so many potentially good suggestions for the end results its immensely tantilizing. Frankly with the potential of inventor had this skill waited as long at the elf city it would have been an even closer match.

On the other hand, most of those eight years were spent with them telling us that they had no plans to even start considering the elf finale. That much hype doesn't necessarily mean a good update, especially when their recent track record for long-awaited updates has been... Fairly poor.

[Sy_Accursed]

The only good thing here is we know they have at least a vague concept of a story for the elf city and some good concept art and a clearly mapped area for it to be in with a predveloped theme; plus with 8 years of speculation and desire there is a treasure trove of good ideas to pull from.

 

Where as invention they have 'machines and things powered by divine energy that can level up as you use em' that literally seems to be all they have. Even the concept art is defunct since they scrapped t90 2h entirely from the skill along with the idea of sticking existing items together.

 

Voting for invention is really quite a blind hope of something good based on the name being alright, voting for elf city is a desperate hope Jagex can for once not ruin the hype and few strands of info we have been given/seen.

 

This vote would've been better if they had good solid concepts with some art and maybe some storyboards and such and could link us to essentially their internal design document with the concept stuff so we could have a good read (for those that really care) and see what we are exactly voting for to go in to dev, instead we are voting for vague abstract concepts that have little on paper beyond a name.

[V O R K]

That's kind of painful now you mention that :c

 

Now it's meaningless ;_;

[Golvellius]

These polls are stupid and people's choices piss me off.

How the hell could you vote for the elf city when we have the most worthless skill since hunter sitting out there waiting for a new skill to use all these divine energies?

Did you train divination for that oh so special free dungeoneering skill door opener?

Jesus if you vote for elf land then it could be 2015 before Clownex even touches invention.

Face facts nobody really cares about elfs. This isn't WOW.

You see the elf city then what?

I'll tell you want, it transforms into there seren god thing when threatened and that's it.

Wow fantastic, you voted for another world event over a skill....

[Omali]

These polls are stupid and people's choices piss me off.

How the hell could you vote for the elf city when we have the most worthless skill since hunter sitting out there waiting for a new skill to use all these divine energies?

Did you train divination for that oh so special free dungeoneering skill door opener?

Jesus if you vote for elf land then it could be 2015 before Clownex even touches invention.

Face facts nobody really cares about elfs. This isn't WOW.

You see the elf city then what?

I'll tell you want, it transforms into there seren god thing when threatened and that's it.

Wow fantastic, you voted for another world event over a skill....

 

 

Tell us how you really feel. 

[Sy_Accursed]

These polls are stupid and people's choices piss me off.

How the hell could you vote for the elf city when we have the most worthless skill since hunter sitting out there waiting for a new skill to use all these divine energies?

Did you train divination for that oh so special free dungeoneering skill door opener?

Jesus if you vote for elf land then it could be 2015 before Clownex even touches invention.

Face facts nobody really cares about elfs. This isn't WOW.

You see the elf city then what?

I'll tell you want, it transforms into there seren god thing when threatened and that's it.

Wow fantastic, you voted for another world event over a skill....

 

Nobody cares about the elves so much so that more people voted for them...dat rage logic.

 

You voted for another skill then what?

I'll tell you what you max it, complain about it being useless and boring and never use it again until it becomes the central pillar for a world event.

Well done you also just voted for another world event over the elf city.

[HunterDexter]

Ok, checked again, apparenty Mod Chris L is NOT working on the Elf stuff right now, it was just some confusing rambling on a tipsite which made people, including me, assume he was working on it. He still is the Elf curator though. Sorry for the confusion here. :s

[TheDiamond]

These polls are stupid and people's choices piss me off.

How the hell could you vote for the elf city when we have the most worthless skill since hunter sitting out there waiting for a new skill to use all these divine energies?

Did you train divination for that oh so special free dungeoneering skill door opener?

Jesus if you vote for elf land then it could be 2015 before Clownex even touches invention.

Face facts nobody really cares about elfs. This isn't WOW.

You see the elf city then what?

I'll tell you want, it transforms into there seren god thing when threatened and that's it.

Wow fantastic, you voted for another world event over a skill....

 

Brilliant rant. 10/10 would read again. 

 

I voted for elf city.

 

U mad? 

[Binary Mage]

While I am disappointed at the apparent outcome of the poll, I can fully understand and appreciate that there is an enormous portion of people in the playerbase that have been waiting for Prifddinas so patiently for such a long time that they would probably choose Priddinas over any other possible update that Jagex could ever even think of dreaming of. (And a portion of those inside that larger group that would probably give their firstborn for it.) Despite playing for as long as I have, I seem to have never caught the excitement for the city's reveal that seems to blanket most of the long-time players.

 

I'm sure I'll find a reason to get excited about Prifddinas as they release more info about it. Right now its potential gameplay benefits are much, much more vague than Invention's--something that I imagine will be remedied over the next few months.

[HunterDexter]

I think it's just we want to know the lore. It's like Harry Potter, you know Voldemort will die, but you are already waiting ages and ages and you just want the writer to finish up to know HOW.

You can replace Harry Potter with A Song of Ice and Fire if you want.

[Den]

I laugh when people say "Wow good job you voted on elf city now intentioneering wont be out until 2016."

 

You can wait, just as the people who have wanted the elf city have waited.

Besides, Invention would logically be out around xmas going by the 5-6 month development time these two big updates seem to have.

[God Of Lego]

If they orgasnise themselves efficiently they'll easily get both out this year to a decent standard, providing they have a decent concept writter down. But then again this is Jagex and everything has been getting done half assed.

[PumpkinPete112]

Im not gonna like I picked Elf City. Its going to suck probably but just getting that payoff man. Did MEP2/Within the Light on release day (god help me).

Been waiting a long time, but expectations are minimal

[Troacctid]

The poll system doesn't feel like it's taking us seriously. There's a huge focus on looks and ease of voting, and no focus at all on making an informed choice. It's just a marketing stunt by Jagex, and a further excuse to do as little work as possible.

 

...You're criticizing the update because the interface is too well-designed?

[Urza285]

 

 

The poll system doesn't feel like it's taking us seriously. There's a huge focus on looks and ease of voting, and no focus at all on making an informed choice. It's just a marketing stunt by Jagex, and a further excuse to do as little work as possible.

...You're criticizing the update because the interface is too well-designed?

Well to be honest they could have had a little more play added for voters. It wouldnt have been bad to have a discussion forum for current player polls. Then on that forum a topic pinned specifically for players to voice their opinion on update priorities. Jmods could then put up secondary poll options based on common player interests on the poll discussion topic. So for example if players picked elf city then they would be prompted to pick what style is most appealing (which is based on what's most discussed by players on the forum): receiving the elf city geared with guild like places or a more grandeure quest. What it boils down to is emphesis on the development (quest or the city) itself and not just the fork in the road choice of content development priority.

[Ammako]

Do they still plan on releasing an Elf Lands task set along with MEP3, by the way?

 

 

The poll system doesn't feel like it's taking us seriously. There's a huge focus on looks and ease of voting, and no focus at all on making an informed choice. It's just a marketing stunt by Jagex, and a further excuse to do as little work as possible.

 

...You're criticizing the update because the interface is too well-designed?

 

Maybe you should focus on reading the other person's post instead of dismissing their argument based on half of their post.

 

"no focus at all on making an informed choice"

[Quyneax]

 

The poll system doesn't feel like it's taking us seriously. There's a huge focus on looks and ease of voting, and no focus at all on making an informed choice. It's just a marketing stunt by Jagex, and a further excuse to do as little work as possible.

...You're criticizing the update because the interface is too well-designed?

 

I'm saying that the voting station has Persian rugs on the marble floor, the supervisor wears the latest Chanel, the ballot paper is by Damien Hirst and you don't have to wait for the vote to end to get the results. The only - slight - problem is that the campaign is run by Tea Party scientists.

 

The joke being that there aren't any, not that the information is biased (but that also).

[Urza285]

What if we like the tea party? I'm obviously playing devils advocate.

[Krampell]

We got a new skill less than a year ago.

People have been waiting for the Elf city for years.

That's why people are voting for it.

[Octarine]

Then again divination is pretty useless without a partner skill :P Personally I don't mind which one wins, both look nice and interesting :)

 

I'm surprised the vote is as close as it is, only about 5% of the vote in it. Looks like the vote will end even closer to 50:50

[Urza285]

Then again divination is pretty useless without a partner skill :P Personally I don't mind which one wins, both look nice and interesting :)

 

I'm surprised the vote is as close as it is, only about 5% of the vote in it. Looks like the vote will end even closer to 50:50

inb4 both tie at 50:50 and are delayed longer due to intense discussion and consideration from the community and jagex staff.