ixfd64 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 RuneScape isn't realistic, but hey, it's just a game. The most important thing is to have fun, as long as everything is balanced. However, it's fun to spot scientific errors! Feel free to post interesting violations of scientific laws. Here are the ones I found: - Jagex uses kg as a measure of weight. However, kg is a measure of mass, not weight! - During the Between a Rock... quest, the player must make a helmet out of gold bars. After doing that, the inventory becomes heavier! This violates the conservation of mass/matter! - According to the newsletter, each cannonball can only be used once because they "vaporize" on impact. Think about it - if cannonballs really vaporized, the kinetic energy released would be probably sufficient enough to level an entire building! Also, you can see that cannonballs travel at only a few meters per second, not exactly fast enough to cause vaporization on impact. But then again, real cannonballs would be pretty unbalanced. - Gold and silver ore are refined in furnaces, not exactly what we do in real-life. - Obsidian is one of the strongest materials in the game. However, in real-life, it's rather weak. It is only ranked 5 on the Mohs mineral hardness scale. Any sharp blow will shatter obsidian. ARENAscape: Baratus [AS] max hit: 166 with Moon Battle Hammer ixfd64 [AS] max hit: 116 with (untitled spell #2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarritos Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 - According to the newsletter, each cannonball can only be used once because they "vaporize" on impact. Think about it - if cannonballs really vaporized, the kinetic energy released would be probably sufficient enough to level an entire building! Also, you can see that cannonballs travel at only a few meters per second, not exactly fast enough to cause vaporization on impact. But then again, real cannonballs would be pretty unbalanced. i have no idea how you figure this, but it sounds realistic and it sounds crazy :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 R - Jagex uses kg as a measure of weight. However, kg is a measure of mass, not weight! - During the Between a Rock... quest, the player must make a helmet out of gold bars. After doing that, the inventory becomes heavier! This violates the conservation of mass/matter! - According to the newsletter, each cannonball can only be used once because they "vaporize" on impact. Think about it - if cannonballs really vaporized, the kinetic energy released would be probably sufficient enough to level an entire building! Also, you can see that cannonballs travel at only a few meters per second, not exactly fast enough to cause vaporization on impact. But then again, real cannonballs would be pretty unbalanced. - Gold and silver ore are refined in furnaces, not exactly what we do in real-life. - Obsidian is one of the strongest materials in the game. However, in real-life, it's rather weak. It is only ranked 5 on the Mohs mineral hardness scale. Any sharp blow will shatter obsidian. Sorry but I think they are all rpetty weak -Jagex use it correctly, there is much mis conception as to what weight is. People weigh themselves and weigh ingredients as weights. Techincally yes they are all masses and not weights, but people call them weight and measure them in kg - not everyone is good at science -In the making of such a large gold object impurtieis would be absorbed into the metal, plus you add a white gold inlay to the helm that is not a bar in your inventory both of whihc supply the extra weight -That is perfect logical, cannon balls are an iron sphere the heat caused inside the steam pwoered cannon would soften them somewhat then the friction cuase by the speed would allow the iron to react with the water. Such a combination would release some oxygen from the water and the rest would form into iron hydroxide - a gas aka it would vapourise -In real life gold and silver ore are filtered by machinery to remove more earth and impurties than some ores have but are then heated in a furnace to remove the rest hence jagexs is a perfectly logical process -Obsidian in its natural state is a weak metal yes, when interlaced with a substances like coal or occasionally granite it offers the strength and properties of the metal while gaining in durabilty and strength (thats why steel is stronger than iron) so it is correct 99% of jagexs game checks out against science fact if you devele deeper than basic fact... Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 R - Jagex uses kg as a measure of weight. However, kg is a measure of mass, not weight! - During the Between a Rock... quest, the player must make a helmet out of gold bars. After doing that, the inventory becomes heavier! This violates the conservation of mass/matter! - According to the newsletter, each cannonball can only be used once because they "vaporize" on impact. Think about it - if cannonballs really vaporized, the kinetic energy released would be probably sufficient enough to level an entire building! Also, you can see that cannonballs travel at only a few meters per second, not exactly fast enough to cause vaporization on impact. But then again, real cannonballs would be pretty unbalanced. - Gold and silver ore are refined in furnaces, not exactly what we do in real-life. - Obsidian is one of the strongest materials in the game. However, in real-life, it's rather weak. It is only ranked 5 on the Mohs mineral hardness scale. Any sharp blow will shatter obsidian. Sorry but I think they are all rpetty weak -Jagex use it correctly, there is much mis conception as to what weight is. People weigh themselves and weigh ingredients as weights. Techincally yes they are all masses and not weights, but people call them weight and measure them in kg - not everyone is good at science That still doesn't make it Scientifically correct even though people call it weight. And I think that's what Ixfd64 is getting at. Well I have one, which kind of makes sense. How can a cannon fit into somebodys backpack even if the cannon is pulled apart into 4's. Its still to big. But if this wasn't the case the game would be far less fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potter_Pkr Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Its only a game..... Retired 8th October 2007 | 99 Fishing | 99 Cooking | Owner of a Red Mask and 2 Santa Hats | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 R - Jagex uses kg as a measure of weight. However, kg is a measure of mass, not weight! - During the Between a Rock... quest, the player must make a helmet out of gold bars. After doing that, the inventory becomes heavier! This violates the conservation of mass/matter! - According to the newsletter, each cannonball can only be used once because they "vaporize" on impact. Think about it - if cannonballs really vaporized, the kinetic energy released would be probably sufficient enough to level an entire building! Also, you can see that cannonballs travel at only a few meters per second, not exactly fast enough to cause vaporization on impact. But then again, real cannonballs would be pretty unbalanced. - Gold and silver ore are refined in furnaces, not exactly what we do in real-life. - Obsidian is one of the strongest materials in the game. However, in real-life, it's rather weak. It is only ranked 5 on the Mohs mineral hardness scale. Any sharp blow will shatter obsidian. Sorry but I think they are all rpetty weak -Jagex use it correctly, there is much mis conception as to what weight is. People weigh themselves and weigh ingredients as weights. Techincally yes they are all masses and not weights, but people call them weight and measure them in kg - not everyone is good at science That still doesn't make it Scientifically correct even though people call it weight. And I think that's what Ixfd64 is getting at. Well I have one, which kind of makes sense. How can a cannon fit into somebodys backpack even if the cannon is pulled apart into 4's. Its still to big. But if this wasn't the case the game would be far less fun. Thats y said its 99% correct That top part of the 1% tht technically is incorrect, but is coprrect as far as msot care as it is a common and accepted word misuse Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omishrabbi Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 R - Jagex uses kg as a measure of weight. However, kg is a measure of mass, not weight! - During the Between a Rock... quest, the player must make a helmet out of gold bars. After doing that, the inventory becomes heavier! This violates the conservation of mass/matter! - According to the newsletter, each cannonball can only be used once because they "vaporize" on impact. Think about it - if cannonballs really vaporized, the kinetic energy released would be probably sufficient enough to level an entire building! Also, you can see that cannonballs travel at only a few meters per second, not exactly fast enough to cause vaporization on impact. But then again, real cannonballs would be pretty unbalanced. - Gold and silver ore are refined in furnaces, not exactly what we do in real-life. - Obsidian is one of the strongest materials in the game. However, in real-life, it's rather weak. It is only ranked 5 on the Mohs mineral hardness scale. Any sharp blow will shatter obsidian. Sorry but I think they are all rpetty weak -Jagex use it correctly, there is much mis conception as to what weight is. People weigh themselves and weigh ingredients as weights. Techincally yes they are all masses and not weights, but people call them weight and measure them in kg - not everyone is good at science -In the making of such a large gold object impurtieis would be absorbed into the metal, plus you add a white gold inlay to the helm that is not a bar in your inventory both of whihc supply the extra weight -That is perfect logical, cannon balls are an iron sphere the heat caused inside the steam pwoered cannon would soften them somewhat then the friction cuase by the speed would allow the iron to react with the water. Such a combination would release some oxygen from the water and the rest would form into iron hydroxide - a gas aka it would vapourise -In real life gold and silver ore are filtered by machinery to remove more earth and impurties than some ores have but are then heated in a furnace to remove the rest hence jagexs is a perfectly logical process -Obsidian in its natural state is a weak metal yes, when interlaced with a substances like coal or occasionally granite it offers the strength and properties of the metal while gaining in durabilty and strength (thats why steel is stronger than iron) so it is correct 99% of jagexs game checks out against science fact if you devele deeper than basic fact... if im not mistaken, hammering out gold would thing the metal and also knock miniscule peices of it that would be small enough that it is not really noticable to the human eye, but would actually DROP the weight in a very small amount also...wouldnt it be iron OXIDE? meaning rust, which wouldnt form in a matter of seconds, even with this degree of pressure. and last, if im thinking correctly, obsidian is more of a crystal-type substance than a metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frizoid Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Its only a game..... ^ too true. why not point out the fact that we respawn when we die :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 R - Jagex uses kg as a measure of weight. However, kg is a measure of mass, not weight! - During the Between a Rock... quest, the player must make a helmet out of gold bars. After doing that, the inventory becomes heavier! This violates the conservation of mass/matter! - According to the newsletter, each cannonball can only be used once because they "vaporize" on impact. Think about it - if cannonballs really vaporized, the kinetic energy released would be probably sufficient enough to level an entire building! Also, you can see that cannonballs travel at only a few meters per second, not exactly fast enough to cause vaporization on impact. But then again, real cannonballs would be pretty unbalanced. - Gold and silver ore are refined in furnaces, not exactly what we do in real-life. - Obsidian is one of the strongest materials in the game. However, in real-life, it's rather weak. It is only ranked 5 on the Mohs mineral hardness scale. Any sharp blow will shatter obsidian. Sorry but I think they are all rpetty weak -Jagex use it correctly, there is much mis conception as to what weight is. People weigh themselves and weigh ingredients as weights. Techincally yes they are all masses and not weights, but people call them weight and measure them in kg - not everyone is good at science -In the making of such a large gold object impurtieis would be absorbed into the metal, plus you add a white gold inlay to the helm that is not a bar in your inventory both of whihc supply the extra weight -That is perfect logical, cannon balls are an iron sphere the heat caused inside the steam pwoered cannon would soften them somewhat then the friction cuase by the speed would allow the iron to react with the water. Such a combination would release some oxygen from the water and the rest would form into iron hydroxide - a gas aka it would vapourise -In real life gold and silver ore are filtered by machinery to remove more earth and impurties than some ores have but are then heated in a furnace to remove the rest hence jagexs is a perfectly logical process -Obsidian in its natural state is a weak metal yes, when interlaced with a substances like coal or occasionally granite it offers the strength and properties of the metal while gaining in durabilty and strength (thats why steel is stronger than iron) so it is correct 99% of jagexs game checks out against science fact if you devele deeper than basic fact... if im not mistaken, hammering out gold would thing the metal and also knock miniscule peices of it that would be small enough that it is not really noticable to the human eye, but would actually DROP the weight in a very small amount also...wouldnt it be iron OXIDE? meaning rust, which wouldnt form in a matter of seconds, even with this degree of pressure. and last, if im thinking correctly, obsidian is more of a crystal-type substance than a metal. obsidian ok i didn;t no tht but the point still applys and no iron + water and air makes iron oxide aka rust iorn plus hot water vaopur (from steam pwoered cannon) and friction creates alternate reaction where by 1 oxygen is released and the rest forms iron hydroxide whihc is a gas Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer003 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 erm, trying to work out what the hell all that meant :) Wow - Zuu - Lvl 55 Destructo Lock - Neptulon Rattus Jr - Skill totaler Nub ( Zuu's Back) Archer003 - 92 80 99 92hp Rsc trained Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_selie Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Its only a game..... ^ too true. why not point out the fact that we respawn when we die :roll: All Runescapians are simply buddhists, all very close to the point of nirvana or something like that. As for science law violations, the alchemy in Rs [magic anyways but whatever] seems pretty unrealistic to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakdragon39 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 You know... I can't honestly say that I think Jagex was going for a completely scinitific based fact game, where everything makes sense. That's what we have real life for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierte Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Obsidian is also known as volcanic glass. It's formed from cooling lava. Depending on the speed at which it cools, you either get obsidian or something else(I'm sorry I can't remember what). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xJakex Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 The smithing skill. Or rather, the whole smelting aspect of it, seeing as IRL, you use waaay more of the ore than coal. Electrolysis would be awesome on RS :D. I'm Jake Milroy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmottbg Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 You know... I can't honestly say that I think Jagex was going for a completely scinitific based fact game, where everything makes sense. That's what we have real life for... Agreed. Have you ever tried to teleport in real life? Or go around killing men without anyone even giving a second thought? Or eat a chicken in one bite? Get real. It's a COMPUTER GAME!!!! :wink: OoC Overseer Eet mor kabbig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 You know this IS FOR FUN. Just to see if there are any unrealistic features in Runescape. Sheesh, read the author's post carefully. "The cry of the poor is not always just, but if you never hear it you'll never know what justice is." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Hyde1218 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 -Obsidian in its natural state is a weak metal yes, when interlaced with a substances like coal or occasionally granite it offers the strength and properties of the metal while gaining in durabilty and strength (thats why steel is stronger than iron) so it is correctwait wait what? obsidian a metal? do you anything about geology or minerals? oh, and i didn't know you could "interlace" a metal (or you would call obsidian a metal, which it isn't) with stone. explain the process, could you? oh, and as for ixfd64, mad props!! funny how using logic can get so many people fired up about a little thing. next time you want to try and look smart Paw, get your facts straight. proud quest cape ownerhere's my first post on the TIF (scroll to the bottom)feel free to pm me, but do make sure that i know you're a Tip.It user (in other words, give me a HYT) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverchipmunk Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Hmm, lets see. You can carry 100kg. There is magic. Protection prayers. Oh, and nothing has a set "weight". This is because weight = mass x gravitational pull, and gravitational pull may vary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrington Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 * I want to know how a bunch of Harpie bugs can carry heavy mith chain armour * Eating food heals you? Need to remember that next time I pull a muscle. * Arrows only travel about 20 feet.... what's that about? ;) * If I pray hard enough, then I am completely invurnable to all forms of attack! * I can stand next to a stall and repeatedly steal stuff for hours on end and the guy who owns the stall is dumb enough to constantly replace them every few seconds ;) * The Master Farmer carries hundreds of thousands of seeds in his pockets! * I can carry 28 bars of gold! Man, I'm soooo strong. * I can cook a shark in under 2 seconds! * I can turn tin into gold! * I can teleport from one end of the planet to the other... the uncertainty principle does not apply to me! * I am frequently assaulted by a chicken that has magical powers * I amunable to buy more than 10 items at a time. * A plot of farming land which is at least 144 square feet, is unable to yield more than 20 strawberries. * I can grow a potato in under 30 mins!.... miracle grow or what! * An inventory that can carry 28 full plate mail is apparently too small to hold 29 finger rings.... hmmmmm. Oh, I could go on all night... point is, it's only a game. If you tried to make it realistic, there'd be no point in playing... you could just wander out into the real world and play there instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Hyde1218 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 HEY!! I KNOW!! let's quote the originator of this topic BECAUSE WE HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO!! RuneScape isn't realistic, but hey, it's just a game. The most important thing is to have fun, as long as everything is balanced. However, it's fun to spot scientific errors! Feel free to post interesting violations of scientific laws. ...hmm... lemme think. oo, i know!! it only takes 5 seconds to make chain body armor!!yay!! i actually payed attention to the authors inquiry!! give me a cookie!! proud quest cape ownerhere's my first post on the TIF (scroll to the bottom)feel free to pm me, but do make sure that i know you're a Tip.It user (in other words, give me a HYT) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvw08 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 HEY!! I KNOW!! let's quote the originator of this topic BECAUSE WE HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO!! RuneScape isn't realistic, but hey, it's just a game. The most important thing is to have fun, as long as everything is balanced. However, it's fun to spot scientific errors! Feel free to post interesting violations of scientific laws. ...hmm... lemme think. oo, i know!! it only takes 5 seconds to make chain body armor!!yay!! i actually payed attention to the authors inquiry!! give me a cookie!! theres your cookie :D Droolman's item Guide | My RuneScape pictures | My barrows videos, with download link!Free Image Hosting! | Free File Hosting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Hyde1218 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 ... theres your cookie :Ddude, you are just about the coolest person on this thread. is that raisin or walnut though? cuz i don't like raisins. i'd rather eat the grape while its still juicy. proud quest cape ownerhere's my first post on the TIF (scroll to the bottom)feel free to pm me, but do make sure that i know you're a Tip.It user (in other words, give me a HYT) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball_of_Pain_Reborn Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 The author of this topic is right :shock: Lol the obsidion thing always bugs me cus when thrown at a wall, it shatters :( Dont ask me how i found out 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith2k0 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 there are rocks in non mem that have had millions of ores mined from them yet they look exactly like they did when u started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 There's supernatural ghosts that can injure natural beings :) You can hold over 1 billion coins in your sack without ever increasing weight or space ;) And for those saying "it's just a game!"... the author said that! This is just for fun! It's not a criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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