Time for rares to go

[daver]

yes im sure jagex would like to ban tons of accounts just to get rid of what.. 1% of the rares in the game? duhhh... :roll:

[Evadek]

if you can't afford a rare, stop complaining, nobody is forcing you to acknowledge their existence in this game because there are a lot of items to buy that aren't rares.

 

Rares serve a purpose in this game and if you don't want them, don't use them

 

 

 

And yes, I am saying you can't afford one. Nobody can afford them anymore, but i'm not jumping out of windows or putting my self infront of trains now am I?

[n64jive]

ok, i wasnt gonna waste my time with you and just claim you are an idiot...let see if we can get this through your thick skull.

 

 

 

p hat sets are worth so much, because their is a lot of cash in rs, and nothing else to put their use too. Lets say P hats sets are banished...ok, so now all that cash is still in rs, and nothing to spend it on...the price of EVERYTHING Skyrockets...now you have you complainers who [bleep]ed because you didnt have any rares, now [bleep]ing because you can't afford anything.

 

 

 

guess what, you lose both ways.

[swampjedi]

Listen to the 64 bit Nintendo system, it is wise.

 

 

 

Plus it has Ocarina of Time.

[aoe325]

1) Make the rares untradable. This is not my favorite, but it would work. No one loses anything.

 

2) Just make all rares disappear. Not a good idea. Even I donâââ‰â¢t support that one.

 

3) Set up a shop selling rares for 25gp each. Not a bad idea, but not my favorite either. Since their high alc value is only 1gp, 25gp is asking much more than they are worth; but no plan is perfect. Now, everyone can have a rare, and no one will get their feelings hurt over losing one; they just go to the shop for a new one.

 

4) And my favorite, have mods start selling rares into the market. This, of course, will drive prices down. But, the mods still sell, driving down prices farther. Since mods have an infinite number of rares to sell, they can keep selling until the rares fall to a price that seems reasonable, say, 100gp each. I love the idea, but Jagex would get a lot of heat for intentionally forcing the market down. So, it is not politically correct or acceptable for them, but it would be fun to watch.

 

 

 

1- This is the 1 intelligent idea, but it will never happen, u wish it or not, the rares are there to stay

 

 

 

2- horrible idea!! Would u like to see the rares that took u so many years (months) of work and saving disapear like that!?!? If u owned one(im not saying ur jealous), u would dislike it as well

 

 

 

3 - Same as #2, u would have buyed something 200 000 000 gp and the next day any newb can afford it

 

 

 

4 - . . . . . . now sorry but ur just being stupid. if ur talking about Pmods, they cant spawn items.

 

If ur talking about the Jmods :

 

- they cant trade

 

- some mod doing it would be fired

 

- it would be agains ALL their policies

 

- and again, they would have thousands of rants because of ppl losing millions of gps.

 

 

 

U will have to get use to them and anyway : Does someone walking whith a hat whith no stat he payed 200 millions will influence ur playing? I dont think so, if hes happy whith his rare, let him be!

[swampjedi]

Rares aren't going away in RS2, you can count on that. That would be like taking hundreds of millions out of someone's bank. Imagine if someone hacked your account and took all your good stuff away. That's the same idea you're working with. I have a party hat that I paid 80+ million for - and taking it away because some baby whines about it isn't fair to me. The baby gains nothing, but I lose millions.

 

 

 

Sound fair? Then you're saying hacking is fair - because the ONLY reason you care about being hacked is that someone takes your stuff.

 

 

 

Little babies need their pacifiers back in.

[aoe325]

1) Jagex likes rares because it keeps people coming back, staying in game.

 

 

 

My answer: Then, why doesnâââ‰â¢t Jagex create more of them; not of the same, but of different kinds? Since so many rares are so high priced as to make them unachievable to all but a few players, why not create some more âââ¬Ãânot quite so rare raresâââ¬Ã

[xxxrunescapexxx]

are u serious lol? if u remove rares then what about all the money people saved and worked for to earn them, plus most of them look cool which is why they cost so much. they dont hurt anyone so if u can afford good, if not work for it :x

[treefalse]

Are rares even causing a problem? Those who want to spend countless months waiting to afford a rare, go ahead. Those who don't, ignore it.

 

 

 

Without the rares, marketers would try to make money other ways. Whoopty-freakin-doo. Boycott the items and refuse to buy any higher. The items will be un-marketable, and the price stays steady. Coal has already risen 50gp. Those members who are richer can afford it, but I think they, too, should pitch in. The only think money is really good for is skills. When you think about it, the economy is really dependent on fletchers and smithers who high alchemy who make money out of thin air.

 

 

 

Rares can stay rares for all I care. I never really wanted one in the first place. But, trimmed armour price is going down, and that, I don't mind. :D

[mario_sunny]

I wouldn't totally agree with this, but the solution 4 seems like to me one of the best ideas around.

 

 

 

I was wondering actually if jagex could somehow secretly release rares... still thinking about that though. It is a good suggestion :D

 

 

 

all the others are well... not even worth being posted :|

[oomoing]

just wait until ppl with rares either get banned with them, accidentally high alch them...w/e. they will be gone forever then.

 

 

 

problem solved. :lol:

[daigotsu]

Kinda my point (as well as others). PHats are already pretty scarce (what are the official numbers, a couple of hundred each tops?) -- once they get down into the "useless" numbers, where trading them is effectively impossible, then masks become the high-end "common currency," then Santa hats.

 

 

 

Of course getting them out of the game via attrition will take forever and a day, but in the meantime, some players get to dream about owning rares, others get to merchant those rares, and the rest of us spend our money on useful items and skills. :D

 

 

 

D

[SaidinWoT]

Okay, I'm going to play a fun little game. This wonderful little game is called "Rearrange a post"! Woot for fun games!

 

 

 

 

When there are but 10 phats remaining in the whole game, do you think people will still be willing to pay hundreds of millions, or billions for them? Do you think that any more than just a small percentage of players will even know what these things are? Will anyone care? No.

 

But, it is time for the rares to go.

 

 

 

My Reasons:

 

 

 

First of all, I have been playing for less than a year and a half, so I was not here for the original drops, nor have I earned enough money to buy any.

 

 

 

They serve no purpose other than to make trouble, see recent construction bug massacre, and to provide forums for ostentatious displays of wealth. None of that is constructive to any real purpose of the game. By their careful attempts to avoid the creation of any more rares, it is clear that Jagex does not believe that the rare markets contribute to the game. So, let us do everyone a favor, and get rid of them.

 

 

 

Now, at this point, emotionally immature people will be complaining, âââ¬Ãâyou are just jealous because you donâââ‰â¢t have one.âââ¬Ã

[retaxis2]

no offence but only a moron would write such a thing.

 

 

 

someone who has played runescape for years to afford a blue p hat and the next day p hats are worthless?

 

 

 

i love to see you work all your life and someday your country economy crashes just before you retire and you lose everything. i wonder if you will be happy.

[Esper_Jones]

I read most of this thread, most of the stupid arguments on both sides.

 

 

 

To the topic creator: I read your arguments, lots of different sides, a solution. Nowhere in fact did I read why you think rares should be gone. You say they hurt the economy, you say that they will be phased out, et cetera, but you miss the point:

 

 

 

Why should rares be removed?

 

 

 

You are proposing a solution to something that isn't broken. The high prices are only high because - get this - people are willing to pay them. If people thought the prices were too high, then they just wouldn't buy them. Nobody is holding a knife to anybody's throat, saying that they have to buy a rare.

 

 

 

Also, not as part of my argument, but you said that introducing more supply of the rares is a solution? It seems you just want party hats obtainable by all. The difference with that is, once they are obtainable by all, who would want to wear them? Those that do want the hats only want them because of their value - not because of the hats themselves.

[lawrencekill]

I read most of this thread, most of the stupid arguments on both sides.

 

 

 

To the topic creator: I read your arguments, lots of different sides, a solution. Nowhere in fact did I read why you think rares should be gone. You say they hurt the economy, you say that they will be phased out, et cetera, but you miss the point:

 

 

 

Why should rares be removed?

 

 

 

You are proposing a solution to something that isn't broken. The high prices are only high because - get this - people are willing to pay them. If people thought the prices were too high, then they just wouldn't buy them. Nobody is holding a knife to anybody's throat, saying that they have to buy a rare.

 

 

 

Also, not as part of my argument, but you said that introducing more supply of the rares is a solution? It seems you just want party hats obtainable by all. The difference with that is, once they are obtainable by all, who would want to wear them? Those that do want the hats only want them because of their value - not because of the hats themselves.

 

 

 

Yup, I agree with this guy. Once party hats become common no one will wear them much anymore. You see someone wearing bunny ears or scythes around anymore. Rarely. Same applies to the party hat.

 

 

 

Btw if you want to own a rare, stay for a holiday and get an untradable item, it's a "rare" just that you can't sell it for anything, perfect for you right?

 

 

 

Anyways, as stated before, if you convert all rares into gold and sell them for a lesser price, there will be A GREAT GP FLOOD AND A GREAT INFLATION. So instead of dragon chains being 30 mil, for easy calculation, they'll be several hundred, how else will players use their newfound gp. I doubt construction will take billions of gp to get to 99, (considering people with party hat sets). Unless they buy crystals a lot.

 

 

 

So if you want a party hat for 25 gp, would you like to buy full rune for 2 mil?

[weasel00]

Ok I'll be the cry baby and say "The only reason why you compain is cause you dont have one and they are too expansive." Why else would you care????? And your solutions are pretty silly because how would you feel if you just invested 120mil (no idea how much they are worth) and the next day you can buy them at 25gp? A lot of people would get Pissed off don't you think? Maybe you can set up a shop buying them for something close to street prices and then say that in 2 weeks they will be gone. People at least will get there money back... :P

[firestrike]

You are mentally challenged, right? i mean you have no logic and say that the rares are just magically a problem they are not a problem and never have been. Whilst your ideas of removing tehm from the game are ridiculous, what about the thousands of players that have spent 10M + in investment this is a parralel to claiming shares on teh stockmarket are suddly worthless, just out of teh blue. This idea and reasoning is irrational, poorly thought through and doesn't hold up any reasonable arguments.

[fitzztif]

 

1) Make the rares untradable. This is not my favorite, but it would work. No one loses anything.

 

 

 

Yes.. no one loses anything except 100's of million gold from when they bought it

[racconkiller]

hey, if runescape got rid of rares, i wouldnt be able to wear my p hat set, that i got before rs2, quit whining because u werent here for the drops, whiners, dont work for anything, i didnt have a red p hat and i saved up 160 mil to buy one, i just got it yesterday, so dont whine about stuff, cause u dont got one, or u wont get one

[indalecio]

Let me ask you something, creator-of-this-thread person. Are you an American? If so, did you know that in your very own American society, less than 5% of the population controls over 95% of the wealth? But do you know why nobody else complains? Because everyone is given an equal opportunity to be successful. What you are suggesting isn't fair. It is, in fact COMMUNISM