Time for rares to go

[Veryhyper]

If you thought more carefully and instead of making your solutions being total unfair to rare owners maybe you would have thought of this. (this was taken from someone else idea)

 

 

 

First off make all rares untradable. Then have Diango have the ability to buy all discontinued items for the street value that they are. You can also buy the rares for the same price as they are sold to them for from Diango. Problem solved.

[jwrm22]

just keep rares as rare :D they wont put a rares shop in the game... cuz rares in a shop arnt rare anymore... and every phat will drop then 10000000 times in price... and all other idees are stupid... how can you ever show your pumpkins if they are untradeable...

[RaScape]

Rares is the most efficent way for the rich to get richer and taking that away because it causes problems is pretty stupid. If their were no party hats, people will still scam, hack , and abuse bugs like the most dangerous bug ever that occureced two days ago (in my time zone). instead of party hats people wolud just be after Dragon and merchanting tht even tohugh it won't be as great as merchantingt party hats. Get a hold of a hat without getting hacked and youll make millions. Don't complain about rares in the market. The economy will always be healthy because of Alchemy no matter what (even POH's can't effect the economy for so long) except for if Jagex just deleted all money in the game for any reason but they can't bring such a big bug into the game :lol:

 

 

 

Edit: In the Marketplace section of Runescape Official Forums they have "Discontinued Items." A section for rares only. Jagex will never do the things you suggest.

[Giordano]

No one loses anything.

 

ROFLMAO!!! :lol: :lol:

 

No one loses anything? lmao!!! Some merchants dont give a care about the rares (my friend is one) but they use it to get $$$. Now they lose millions for this thing they dont care about.

[Bloodveld]

Remove every rare out of ppl's banks and give them its currest street value in cash. Or make em untradeable and have a npc that pays the street price for it then in a month or so after all are out of game they can release a shop taht sells them or do another drop

They should actually have a shop that buys and sells the rares for exactly 1M above the current market price.

My idea is, jagex sets up a shop which buys all rare items for 50% more than market value and can't sell them back then introduces non-tradeable phats, masks etc for people that only want them for the look.

 

First off make all rares untradable. Then have Diango have the ability to buy all discontinued items for the street value that they are. You can also buy the rares for the same price as they are sold to them for from Diango. Problem solved.

Have any of you guys stopped to consider that maybe jagex doesn't want BILLIONS of gp just appearing in the game? As Laps said,

There's plenty of other things to merchent.

Adding billions of gp into the pockets of master merchants isn't going to solve anything, in fact, it'll just make things much, much worse.

 

 

 

Why do people wear lame looking paper hats? To show their wealth. Non tradible, new rares won't be used by nearly anyone, especially if jagex adds a shop that sells them.

 

 

 

Now, the cash. Without worthless hats to buy, all this billions of added gp will go straight to raw materials, like ores, bars, herbs, ect. I'm not sure about you, but I definitely don't want to buy 1k steel bars for 1m gp. 1k steel for 1m? Sound insane? Who would want to pay for that, you ask. Well, if I was a merchant with 200m+ and nothing to spend it on, I would buy myself a few 99s, like con, herb, smith, ect and 200m+ could easily do that. With so many incredibly rich players just suddenly appearing with nothing to spend it their billions on, they will buy out all the raw materials right away. Normal players wouldn't be able to buy any raw materials (because of the price), and there would be no point to mining/farming/whatever, as everything would be way too expensive. "Everything?" Yep, everything. What does the rich merchant that has all the buyable skills maxed out buy? Light rares. (Or whatever barrows/dragon/ect is called) A d chain would be in the hundred millions, d spears in the millions, all barrows sets over 20m ea, ect. Now, the normal player can't buy anything, so what do they do? How about quit, knowing that instead of not being able to afford a phat, they can't afford anything. There goes hundreds of players...

 

 

 

So, whatcha think? Still want to trade all rares for market prices? :roll:

 

 

 

Or we could just distribute all the rares, dragon items and cash equally among all the players. Then turn Runescape into an anarcho-syndicalist commune, where we take it in turns to act a sort of executive officer for the week.

Ooo, do I get FREE CORN?!?!?!/1/1 :lol: I LOVE COMMUNISM!! :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT: Wow, this post isn't as long as I thought it would be. :lol:

[Satenza]

Plus its pretty much a kick in the face to rs1.

[Freakyhair]

Oh yeah, one thing you havn't considered. The millions of GP that people have spent on their rares. Driving down rares to 100gp each?

 

 

 

Um..

 

 

 

That wouldn't makee them rares. I don't think you're a part hat whiner, just an idiot.

[jessy87]

eh nevermind

[Furious_F]

They serve no purpose other than to make trouble, see recent construction bug massacre, and to provide forums for ostentatious displays of wealth. None of that is constructive to any real purpose of the game. By their careful attempts to avoid the creation of any more rares, it is clear that Jagex does not believe that the rare markets contribute to the game. So, let us do everyone a favor, and get rid of them.

 

If rares were not here, people would flaunt with other items to show off their wealth in this game. It is something in the nature of the human. It doesn't matter what the item is.. so if you took rares away, a substitute would be found.

 

 

 

People were mad about losing all sorts of items due to that bug. But users only were amazed at the stolen rares, because of their value. Not because they are rare. If rares didn't exist, people would be amazed at the amount of Dragon Chains or gp stacks stolen.. I suppose we'll have to remove those too then, huh?

 

 

 

In 2003, new holiday drop items were created to be untradeable. This was because the makers of the game did not like to see players hoarding old drops and selling them for huge profits. Jagex said that all future holiday drops would not be tradeable, because these items were not meant to be worth hundreds of thousands of gp, they were meant to be for fun.

 

In 2002/2003 Jagex made a frontpage news article, explaining why they disliked the tradeable properties of Holiday Items. This sums it up pretty good. It explains clearly why no new tradeable, rare items are made. They do not want people to get ridiculously rich by the mere coincidence of having been there when they were able to be obtained.

 

 

 

If Jagex had an opinion about flaunting with items, it would probably be positive! Why else would there be Legend and Fire capes. And the "everyone" you speak of, want these things!

 

 

 

âââ¬Ãâyou are just jealous because you donâââ‰â¢t have one. And if you did, this thread wouldn't be hereâââ¬Ã

[EYOWAREYA]

:oops:

[henk333]

 

Now, at this point, emotionally immature people will be complaining, âââ¬Ãâyou are just jealous because you donâââ‰â¢t have one,âââ¬Ã

[paulhartman]

1) Jagex likes rares because it keeps people coming back, staying in game.

 

 

 

My answer: Then, why doesnâââ‰â¢t Jagex create more of them; not of the same, but of different kinds? Since so many rares are so high priced as to make them unachievable to all but a few players, why not create some more âââ¬Ãânot quite so rare raresâââ¬Ã

[n64jive]

your an idiot :roll:

[fearspudgod]

Who do you think you are? just beause you dont have enough money for rares you want them gone? I Think you should shut up and maybe if you get enough money for a rare, you will prolly buy one.

[Satenza]

3) The whole market is based on rares, and I need more experience to recognize that.

 

 

 

My answer: The complaints are getting sillier and sillier. The whole market is not based on rares. How can anyone who is paying any attention at all say that? What market? The rares market is based on rares, by definition. But that is just one of thousands of markets on runescape. Start with weapons and end with fish. Rares is so small a part of the market on runescape that based on its percentage of the number of transactions, it statistically doesnâââ‰â¢t exist. In other words, the percentage of the market that is based on rares is such a small percentage, that it is indistinguishable from zero. The whole market? Zero market. You, my friend, need a lesson in the Runescape market

 

 

 

Actually if you spent a little time examining it you would see this is clearly the case. Many peoples main goal through RS is to buy one of these rares. The whole market from barrows armour to raw materials funds merchants who are buying rares that drive their price upwards because of the demmand.

 

 

 

Obviously the time you have spent in game has been under a rock or something? Live at the dwarven mines? Speak to anyone wask them if they'd rather own a phat or a whip i wonder what their answer will be.

 

 

 

I'm not saying that all people are working soley for one but people are working for money to achive their goals. A common goal throughout RS is to own a rare. This as said effects all of the market, from the merchants to the skillers.

 

 

 

Lets not talk about skilly responses here as you are the master of them. Jagex employing more mods to sell rares to players to drive their price down. Shows you actually know completley NOTHING.

[paulhartman]

âââ¬Ãâyour an idiotâââ¬Ã

[miguelitoux]

dude instead of wasting your time here,go and make some money, not in an immature sense, yes, i think you're just jealous since you can't get one, it's not my case, but there are people who merhcant these, if they're made into 200gp items people will lose a lot, immagine fredmcgarry for example, he lives of phats.

 

 

 

and as i said this is not my case, i'm just a level 87 noob who likes to have a happy gaming without ANY rare, but i need to defend those who own and the ones that have worked so hard and are almost there.

[Duke_Freedom]

Also, I refuse to believe that rares are the only reason that people play this game.

 

 

 

Denying to accept something that is a fact does not make it untrue.

 

 

 

You clearly do not understand economics. The economy for all items that actually have a practical use: killing, healing, defending etc. âââ‰â¬Å would do just fine without rares, maybe even better. Thirdly, I like the game and am trying to make it better.

 

 

 

You're not making the economy any better by removing one of the most interesting items in RuneScape.

 

 

 

Rares is so small a part of the market on runescape that based on its percentage of the number of transactions, it statistically doesnâââ‰â¢t exist. In other words, the percentage of the market that is based on rares is such a small percentage, that it is indistinguishable from zero. The whole market? Zero market. You, my friend, need a lesson in the Runescape market.

 

 

 

I'm so glad that people who have no clue what they are talking about always say that others don't know what they are saying. :roll:

[Bloodveld]

Owned by Duke.

 

 

 

AND I POSTED THAT FIRST HENK!! :evil:

[Makoto_the_Phoenix]

I decided to stop reading after you said "less than a year and a half". You just don't know where these so-called 'rares' are coming from.

 

 

 

Listen. Jagex wanted to award their players with a bit of a treat, so they dropped these things, such as Christmas Crackers, Masks, Santa Hats and so forth. NO ONE anticipated that they'd become the object of absolute greed and a status of wealth, so Jagex made the new ones untradeable.

 

 

 

Don't try to think that rares are the bane of society; the lust towards rares is.

[paulhartman]

âââ¬ÃâSpeak to anyone wask them if they'd rather own a phat or a whip i wonder what their answer will be.âââ¬Ã

[paulhartman]

I said: Also, I refuse to believe that rares are the only reason that people play this game.

 

 

 

Duke Freedom said: Denying to accept something that is a fact does not make it untrue.

 

 

 

I know that you are a big merchanter, so it may be impossible for you to believe that every new account is not someone just playing their fingers to the bone to buy your wares. But it is true. You, my friend, are so deep into denial that you canâââ‰â¢t even see reality from where you are standing. For goodness sake, people donâââ‰â¢t even know that rares exist when they start playing, so how in the green earth can it be the only reason? That just makes no sense at all.

 

 

 

As I said earlier, there are many reasons to play this game. If you think that a large percentage, even a significant percentage, are only playing so they can earn enough 230 million to buy a rare, you are smoking something that should be illegal. Sure, ask someone if they would like a phat. They would say âââ¬Ãâyes.âââ¬Ã

[paulhartman]

âââ¬ÃâOwned by Duke.âââ¬Ã

[Satenza]

You clearly no not know anything. The basic structure as you identified is supply and demmand. Rares will always be decreasing in supply, there discontinued. Meaning no more will ever be brought into the game.

 

 

 

Players however are not discontinued. As the population of RS increases so does the demmand for rare items. You speak like no one except a privaliged few can afford there rares. Many can, smaller rares are at the moment avaliable to lots of people.

 

 

 

Player when they have money will want rares a fact you can't deny. As there become more and more players demmand increases, but as more rares are leaving the game supply decreases. making rares more valuable and a lot more rare. Meaning they will have people paying more for them.

 

 

 

People have always said that phats will be out of reach for even the merchants and therefore will slowly die down. This however is not the case as long as people own Party Hats there will be the same people buying them.

 

 

 

Yes this is supply and demmand. It works in every market. You can't genrelise and say that because you don't wish to own one the demmand will go down to all player. Those who have them have worked hard for them. Except a few who kept them since the drop that isn't very many though.

 

 

 

And by the way, i sound fearful? The rares market apparently looks like it's down? Well it's currently on the rise again Masks are up 1.5m from what they were yesterday. Does not seem much of a decline to me.

[Thaulsis]

 

All the boggy men you people worry about! The entire game as you see it would come to an end if phats were removed! How can you overlook the simple fact that more than 99% of the players in this game do not have a phat or other rare, and do not have any desire to own a phat or other rare? Yet, based on just a few items, hidden away in banks, owned by just a handful of players, the whole game is dictated. Silly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Who is it hurting if more then 99% of players don't want party hats? The >1% that wants Party Hats already have them since they are the only people that can account for both groups.

 

 

 

Party Hats are a sign of wealth and experience. If they didn't exist how would we brag?

 

 

 

What about Scythes and Bunny ears, its hardly fair only a handful of people got those. :roll:

 

 

 

I never got what harm party hats do to the economy - if people want to buy them, let them. Its not hurting anyone elses experience as you don't need a party hat to play the game. Who really cares if they spent 100 million+ to buy one, its their money. I can tell you I play runescape just fine now without my hat, and yes i've owned several way back when but sold them ;)

 

 

 

I want a helicopter in real life, but I can't afford one. Yet, I don't think that Helicopters should be $1.99, just so I can have one. I mean it's not like I really need a helicopter ;)