Not a Rant - A Ranting Explanation? Barrows, in any case.

[Kashi]

(This entire article should be read with the voice of Carlos Mencia playing in your head.)

 

 

 

Have you ever walked down to the barrows to do a few runs and seen some "noob" using god spells? And have you ever then said to that "noob" something like, "Haha, waste of bloods noob!"? Well "Haha, guess what no it's not!".

 

 

 

For the sake of this argument, all rune prices are as follows;

 

 

 

Blood - 500gp

 

Death - 250gp

 

Chaos - 125gp

 

 

 

Argument Point #1: Haha, look at all those ancienters using Ice Burst? Guess what! 2 deaths and 4 chaos per spell comes out to the same price as ... oh my God, 2 bloods per spell! And how many bloods does a God Spell use? 2, you say? Only guess what! Your Ice Burst can only hit 22! My charged God Spell can hit 30! Look at that!

 

 

 

Argument Point #2: Prayer potions! A veritable necessity for barrows is prayer potions! Only hey guess what .. not for me!!

 

 

 

I have 56 prayer.

 

 

 

I start with Dharok, leaving me at 43. (avg.)

 

I move to Karil, leaving me at 30. (avg.)

 

I go over to Ahrim, who puts me down to 0.

 

 

 

"But wait, Kashi, you used up 30 prayer points on Ahrim?! You could've killed at least two of the other melee brothers with those prayer points!" Which leads me to ...

 

 

 

Argument Point #3: Heheh, guess what ENTANGLE!! I actually was killing Guthan the other day, and a lvl 120 no less said to me, "Entangle?" at which point I entangle Guthan, and he goes, "Lol noob!".

 

 

 

But .. with one Entangle I can fire off 4 God Spells before having to hide behind the tomb! God Spells have a max of 30, where barrows brothers have 100Hp. Those 4 spells are often enough to kill whichever brother got in my way. If not I pop on my super-defensive Torag's armor and Obby shield and finish the brother off, which rarely, rarely takes more than 2 extra casts.

 

 

 

Now just to finish off my little analysis here, lets total up my expenses for a single barrows trip.

 

 

 

66 bloods per trip (average)

 

Maybe 5-6 Rune arrows used per trip

 

5 monkfish per trip

 

20 natures

 

Elemental runes add a negligible cost. 200 airs/fires (not 200 each, 200 altogether) purchased from the Zammy Mage at 5gp ea. That's 1k.

 

 

 

Altogether that's about 40k per trip. Want to know how long a run takes me? 15 minutes, 20 absolute tops, if I happen to click the wrong puzzle in the tunnels.

 

 

 

Whatever, I'm really tired, all I'm saying is I've used Ice Burst before and it generally ends up being 50k in runes alone (50 castings, 2 deaths 4 chaos per cast, which is approx. 1k per cast). That's not including your prayer pots if you use any, your arrows disappeared, or your food eaten.

 

 

 

So lay off ancienters, my system is cheaper and more efficient than yours.

 

 

 

That doesn't stop me from losing money when my chest rewards are

 

ungodly horrible, the point is my basic expenses are lower than yours.

[Uula]

Wow... I gotta try that =D>

[Robert_Rdam]

Nice guide. I'll try this (however I've never hitted more then 26 with my godspell) though I will try :thumbsup:

[Nazgul740]

You and all the other people in the world forget that slayer dart exists and that it's max is 19 and that it isn't effected by armor... saveing space in inventory...

 

 

 

also you can do barrows with 0 prayer pots and absolultely no tangles...

 

 

 

meh im getting tired of saying this so ima write a guide soon :x

[bflitny1]

I tried it for a while. I didn't really enjoy it. But then I couldn't figure out how to make my zammy flames hit more than 20, I was charged, but I never hit more than 20 after using about 5-600 bloods. If anyone wants to tell me how, that would be awesome! Other than that, I still don't like the method because it's just too slow in the end. I like 5 minute trips, not 15 minute trips. Also...slayer dart ftw!!! =;

[FrankyBrown]

You and all the other people in the world forget that slayer dart exists and that it's max is 19 and that it isn't effected by armor... saveing space in inventory...

 

 

 

also you can do barrows with 0 prayer pots and absolultely no tangles...

 

 

 

meh im getting tired of saying this so ima write a guide soon :x

 

 

 

Yep, anything other than magic dart is stupid :D

[llcoolguy972]

You and all the other people in the world forget that slayer dart exists and that it's max is 19 and that it isn't effected by armor... saveing space in inventory...

 

 

 

also you can do barrows with 0 prayer pots and absolultely no tangles...

 

 

 

meh im getting tired of saying this so ima write a guide soon :x

 

 

 

Yep, anything other than magic dart is stupid :D

 

 

 

+1 :D

 

 

 

Even with a 10 kc, I usually leave with about 100 bloods, 3-400 chaos, and I usually break even on the deaths and minds. IMO, slayer dart is, and always will be, the BEST way to do barrows.

[ikzelf100]

yes i really agree with that i stikll dont know why people keeps houting that goodspells are beter because

 

 

 

those bloods cost a fortune and the nats used cost about the same as 1 prayerpots dose so i say hurray for slayer dart and i dont believe in godspells

[DarkDude]

How is your method more efficient? You take 15 minutes per trip, with ancients I can do three trips in that time. And your 15 minutes doesn't include the time you spend banking and getting back to barrows.

 

 

 

With ancients I can do about 10 trips before I have to go to bank to restock on sharks, and only use 1 prayer dose per trip (For Karil).

[Wkw]

just get 90+ defence, guthans, and use safe spots.

 

 

 

 

 

on fresh trips from bank when i have full prayer, i kill dharok with prayer, then kail, then ahrim. then i find my tunnel. i get to a safe spot, and kill other 3 brothers there.

 

 

 

OR, you could do this.

 

 

 

if it isnt a fresh trip, drink 1 doce of prayer (2 just to be careful). i get 50 points with 70 prayer and holy wrench. kill dharok, kairl, if you have 20+ prayer left, kill verac. if not, ahrim. then torag and guthan shouldnt hit. then, in the utnnles, safe spot thhe last one. DUH

 

 

 

i cna do 10-15 trips PER INV this method.

[Rebdragon]

Decent guide, pretty good way of showing that God Spells are still useful there. And yes, Ancienting is a big waste of cash :lol: . With Slayer Dart+no praying on Verac, Ahrim, Torag, and Guthan (maging in Torag armor) I spend no more than 15k a trip 8-) (without counting the fact that my darts were free, if you counted that it'd be 2.5k a trip max for Karil tunnels), which makes my profit that much better.

 

 

 

Ancienting is just a waste, takes too much focus, costs too much, barely hits better than dart, and is dangerous. It's just something different to do to spice thing up.

 

 

 

^Darkdude, not everyone speed barrows, some of us actually tele after chests to bank :roll: (for some reason I havn't even tried out speed barrowing, it seems like way better profit with faster trips).

[DarkDude]

I don't really speed barrows, 15 minutes for a trip is slow, if you're speeding or not. Casual trip, walking to places I take no more than 10 minutes.

[Mr_Hyde1218]

i use ancients, and to save runes and room, i first ice burst then rush. that takes out your little "cost problem" right there. i usually come to the barrows with full prayer (currently 61 but 60 the last time i was there) and only end up using maybe one dose of prayer potion if i'm having a bad time with karil. so basically, no pots there either. also, i like the challenge that ancients give, so, i'd prefer to use that rather than costly god spells (that and i can't charge yet).

[gamedragon]

You and all the other people in the world forget that slayer dart exists and that it's max is 19 and that it isn't effected by armor... saveing space in inventory...

 

 

 

also you can do barrows with 0 prayer pots and absolultely no tangles...

 

 

 

meh im getting tired of saying this so ima write a guide soon :x

 

 

 

and i'm going to remind you that slayer dart IS affected by Armour BUT the Melle barrows brothers have a negative magic defence therefore magic tends to always hit against them.

[hell00omagz]

know whats cheaper???/

 

verecs all runes are a profit cost around 14k per trip

 

 

 

get around 30k just in runes

[nvw08]

Slayer dart. GOd spells, ancients, veracing, all bow down to the awesome power of slayer dart. I anciented for a while I made a couple mil in items, I got my runes back and then some almost every run. Then i went to slayer dart with my guthans. At first I used 1 or 2 doses and thought it was crap. Then i tried to meele Karil, with a super attack, regular strength potion (I have ~250 attack potions from farming) and it worked perfectly! I could get him in a few prayer points, enough to have a bit of prayer left over to do verac about half way, then I would drink a regular defence pot, which costed me 144gp in the warriors guild. In the tunnel, freshly potted karil bows down to my dds and whip before he ha a change to get me to low health. No prayer doses used no matter what I do. It just works.

[Lord Diddy]

(This entire article should be read with the voice of Carlos Mencia playing in your head.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

xD rofl, that was hillarious

[Dragondan_Ro]

omg is all i can say

 

 

 

btw i do it almsot as cheap as you do about 20 monkfish 60 deaths 300 mind runes and nothing more hmm 5 rune arrows here to so i think about as cheap as you and it varyes from 10-20 monkfish so you still dont do it so cheap

 

 

 

and if i get myself veracs i wonder if i get more cash with p potting :-k

[Kashi]

I tried it for a while. I didn't really enjoy it. But then I couldn't figure out how to make my zammy flames hit more than 20, I was charged, but I never hit more than 20 after using about 5-600 bloods. If anyone wants to tell me how, that would be awesome! Other than that, I still don't like the method because it's just too slow in the end. I like 5 minute trips, not 15 minute trips. Also...slayer dart ftw!!! =;

 

 

 

Well .. you have to have a Zammy cape, for one.

 

 

 

EDIT:

 

 

 

I DID NOT SAY GOD SPELLS WERE CHEAPER THAN SLAYER DART! (They're faster though, for sure.) I ONLY SAID THEY WERE CHEAPER AND MORE EFFICIENT THAN ANCIENT MAGICK!

 

 

 

So if you're going to laugh at God Spell users, you should laugh at ancienters even more.

 

 

 

All i was trying to say.

[chenw]

For those who wants to use God spell for Barrow, please PLEASE use Guthix Claw and use Void Knight Mace. You can autocast it, mace is better than any of the god staves and (if the god spell effects work) is the only spell that can help you in barrows compared to the other 2 anyway.

[FrankyBrown]

You and all the other people in the world forget that slayer dart exists and that it's max is 19 and that it isn't effected by armor... saveing space in inventory...

 

 

 

also you can do barrows with 0 prayer pots and absolultely no tangles...

 

 

 

meh im getting tired of saying this so ima write a guide soon :x

 

 

 

and i'm going to remind you that slayer dart IS affected by Armour BUT the Melle barrows brothers have a negative magic defence therefore magic tends to always hit against them.

 

 

 

And I'm going to point out your wrong because I've got it confirmed by Jagex and it works fine on other monsters :roll: Mage dart=not affected by mage bonus.

[moopymitchell182]

You and all the other people in the world forget that slayer dart exists and that it's max is 19 and that it isn't effected by armor... saveing space in inventory...

 

 

 

also you can do barrows with 0 prayer pots and absolultely no tangles...

 

 

 

meh im getting tired of saying this so ima write a guide soon :x

 

 

 

Yep, anything other than magic dart is stupid :D

Sometimes stupid gets the job done. Hell, look at me! I done plenty of stuff and stupid didn't hold me back.

[kaotic_supa]

You and all the other people in the world forget that slayer dart exists and that it's max is 19 and that it isn't effected by armor... saveing space in inventory...

 

 

 

also you can do barrows with 0 prayer pots and absolultely no tangles...

 

 

 

meh im getting tired of saying this so ima write a guide soon :x

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Naz. I do my Barrow trips without any use of pray pot unless i have Karil in the tunnel.

 

 

 

I use Slayer Dart method. I do this set up.

 

 

 

1. Dharock - magic dart, prayer on

 

2. Karil - melee, prayer on

 

3. Ahrim - melee, prayer on (usually left over prayers)

 

4. Guthan - magic dart, no prayer

 

5. Torag - magic dart, no prayer

 

6. Verac - magic dart, no prayer.

 

 

 

On average i use about 5-8 monkfish. Pretty much all the chaos, bolt rack and blood runes i keep. Another extra cash besides the barros items i get.

 

 

 

And if youre kill count around 15-25 per trip, you'll get mind and death runes. I usually start with 400 death and 1600 minds. And when im done with my trips im usually close to 1k death and 3k minds. So that its self is another incentive.

[Raven6666]

did you come to the realisation that it does come at the cost of a lot more inventory spaces left, entangles take a minimum of 2 spaces, and you have to waste a lot of time and resources making the binding necklaces

 

 

 

and only claws of guthix can be autocast, but yet, you have to waste a whole lot of hours playing pest control to get the max points, 250 games, 5 minutes each, maybe two whole days worth of 10 hours if you take 5 minutes per game

 

 

 

now, on to the topic of using the ancients vs godspells

 

strike uses 6 elemental runes

 

claws and flames take 5 elemental runes

 

both 2 different types

 

and combo runes would be used 5 a cast, considering runes cant be half-used

 

 

 

the ice spells take what? no airs, only waters was it?

 

3 waters for the blitzes, easy enough, 3 runes if you choose to autocast with ancient staff, or 2 rune spots if you care to click-cast like godspells, and it comes with the feature of a bind

 

 

 

 

 

the risk of gettin the godspells ability outside of the arena is as risky as dt, but if you have a high lvl friend who's helping you with the godspells, they have a bigger risk of dieing from pkers rather than desert treasure, considering they can teleport when they wish, outside of wildy, may have more hp and know their way around

 

 

 

 

 

godspells and entangle is less space friendly, but faster, yet with barrows, its good to keep a whole lot of food on you, but you did say you entangled guthans(possibly verac and torag too) but you can easily pick them off with guess what, slayer dart and armour, with a good defence level, it isnt that hard, plus, if you're not built as a pker, why have a low defence? it seriously helps on minor opponents like this

[bflitny1]

Thanks for that info Kashi. I honestly didn't know that, what a noob moment! I'll have to try it again now \ but then, barrows is my life, so I won't complain. I may even try getting claws of guthix. They I won't even have to click 100 times in 5 seconds.