Adamfostas Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Not sure if this is the right forum, but in response to all the recent furore about prayer drain rates, Paul said on the official forums: 'For some reason some players are spreading rumours that we have increased the drain rates of existing prayers. I can confirm that this is just a rumour and we have not.' "Join me next week on 'Let's Make No Freaking Sense', when I shall be waxing an owl." - Green Wing Barrows Drops: 1x Verac's Flail, 2x Karil's Crossbow, 1x Torag's Hammers, 1x Karil's Leatherskirt, 1x Karil's Coif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksimon Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 bee ess.... I have tested this myself and the prayers drain faster than ever. protect prayers drain 3 points every 4 seconds. before they drained 2 points every 6 This is with a certain outfit i ALWAYS wear Touch me paul? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taito2004 Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 definatly going faster.. it took me 2 prayer pots to do 1 run at barrows yesterday.. i can usually get 2 and half runs outta 2 prayer pots. :| 92/99 Fishing | 119/120 Combat | 92/99 Firemaking | 94/99 Fletching | 1878/1900 Total | 85/85 Slayer | 80/80 Prayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalliel Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Took me 3 prayer pots to do barrows yesterday. And i used the altar more times than i normally do, and i killed each brother faster than i normally do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamfostas Posted August 29, 2006 Author Share Posted August 29, 2006 Umm, are you asking to be molested by a Jagex mod Simon? "Join me next week on 'Let's Make No Freaking Sense', when I shall be waxing an owl." - Green Wing Barrows Drops: 1x Verac's Flail, 2x Karil's Crossbow, 1x Torag's Hammers, 1x Karil's Leatherskirt, 1x Karil's Coif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkduellord Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 i cant notice the difrence Tip.it's 2nd unoffical Go player sm3x; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenw Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 i used barrows as a test for prayer drainage rates, and I can confirm that, if there is any difference in drain rates, it is certainly minute. I still have the same amount of prayer left after killing dharok on full prayer, before or after the update. The illusion is that when you dont notice a few things (such as prayer drain rate and crystal bow speed), and suddenly you are brought the attention of it, you become misguided by the illusion and thus is more likely to believe in the rumour. 6,924th to 30 hunting, 13,394th to 30 summoning, 52,993rd to 30 DivinationKiln Record (Post-EoC): W 25 - L 0, 14 Uncut Onyx, 8 Jad hits received (Best record: Two in the same kiln)Obby set renewed post update #2: 0QBD drops: 21 crossbow parts, 3 Visages, 1 Kites, 2 KitsMax Port Score [2205] Achieved: 27th April 2013 (World 2nd) Farmyard Rampage ranking: 12th, 50,000 Kills. Dragon Pickaxe Drops: 1 (Times after I first entered Battlefield: 2h) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmentail Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michiel2 Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 If prayer would drain that fast no one can reach Jad in the Fight Caves anymore, so I believe in Paul. :P At least, I think that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Role_Model Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 He's just saying that so the noob population goes down. Pro Player believes Paul > Pro Player brings 1/2 dose prayer pot to barrows > player dies, noob picks up armor > noob stops whining. back to rs, i guess. it's been 4 months. RSN:P H Osho <- gonna start on him soon, fresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 It doesn't exist anymore :^o It existed when they removed the scroll-bar, though. I used like 80-ish prayer points to kill the KQ instead of like 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leesters Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Well, lookie here.... Okay, I have some input on this. *EDIT - I just thought of something. Maybe they already fixed it so its back to normal. I'll have to try it when I get home. I won't send in bug reports until I take a glance at the prayer drain rate. 1) Prayer rate for protection prayers HAS increased, intentional or not. 2) I heard that a jagex mod made a post on the forums that yes, prayer rate has changed, and we did this because we felt that prayer was making the monsters of runescape too easy. 3) If indeed this is not intentional, very persuasive bug reports need to be submitted, because the prayer rate IS higher for these protection prayers. Its good news they didn't plan on changing prayer, although I don't know what that report on the RS forums was about. ( I didn't see it, just heard about it from another player) So, its not meant to be changed, but a bug DID make it change. Good news. But this means.... BUG REPORTS! The thing is that all of these bug reports are gonna get glanced at, and disregarded due to the hub-bub. They need to be CONVINCED that there ACTUALLY is a difference in the prayer drain. It took me 4 bug reports to get Dharok's special fixed when it came out, because they kept sending me the auto-reply "Heres how Dharok is supposed to work" I had to beat them over the head with ITS NOT WORKING! before they listened and fixed it. A circus in Runescape?? Oh my. REMEMBER RUNESCAPE KARMA! Be a nice player, and nice things will come back to you.I'm back, add me if you deleted me. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leesters Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 It doesn't exist anymore :^o It existed when they removed the scroll-bar, though. I used like 80-ish prayer points to kill the KQ instead of like 50 Okay, wait... What doesn't exist anymore? Are you saying that the prayer drain increase doesn't exist anymore? Its back to normal? (Yes, the scroll bar updated nerfed the prayer drain rate bad. Is it fixed back to normal now?) Or... Are you saying the post from Paul doesn't exist anymore? Or... Are you saying the old prayer drain rate (normal) doesn't exist anymore? A circus in Runescape?? Oh my. REMEMBER RUNESCAPE KARMA! Be a nice player, and nice things will come back to you.I'm back, add me if you deleted me. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stilev Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 well thats always nice to know :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 It doesn't exist anymore :^o It existed when they removed the scroll-bar, though. I used like 80-ish prayer points to kill the KQ instead of like 50 Okay, wait... What doesn't exist anymore? Are you saying that the prayer drain increase doesn't exist anymore? Its back to normal? (Yes, the scroll bar updated nerfed the prayer drain rate bad. Is it fixed back to normal now?) Or... Are you saying the post from Paul doesn't exist anymore? Or... Are you saying the old prayer drain rate (normal) doesn't exist anymore? The prayer drain rate (bug) doesn't exist anymore - my prayer drains at a normal speed now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGuff1 Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 I've been doing Barrows for quite a while with protect prayer and I see no change in prayer drain rate. Takes almost exactly the same amount of prayer points to kill Ahrim's every time. Maybe people are turning on the new range and mage prayers and not realizing that they also drain prayer along with protect prayers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leesters Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 It doesn't exist anymore :^o It existed when they removed the scroll-bar, though. I used like 80-ish prayer points to kill the KQ instead of like 50 Okay, wait... What doesn't exist anymore? Are you saying that the prayer drain increase doesn't exist anymore? Its back to normal? (Yes, the scroll bar updated nerfed the prayer drain rate bad. Is it fixed back to normal now?) Or... Are you saying the post from Paul doesn't exist anymore? Or... Are you saying the old prayer drain rate (normal) doesn't exist anymore? The prayer drain rate (bug) doesn't exist anymore - my prayer drains at a normal speed now Whew, okay, cool. After the scollbar update, it was wicked drain. Glad they fixed it. Much adieau about nothing, and very good news. I think I'll try for fire cape again. :D A circus in Runescape?? Oh my. REMEMBER RUNESCAPE KARMA! Be a nice player, and nice things will come back to you.I'm back, add me if you deleted me. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leesters Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Sigh. Just went home and tested it. The bug is still there. Protection prayers drain one point every 2 seconds. I'll be sending in convincing bug reports now. I hope they listen to it. A circus in Runescape?? Oh my. REMEMBER RUNESCAPE KARMA! Be a nice player, and nice things will come back to you.I'm back, add me if you deleted me. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attackyomom Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 ??? does the bug only happen to you guys my prayer has been drainin at same rate as always Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk8ermsu784 Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 2) I heard that a jagex mod made a post on the forums that yes, prayer rate has changed, and we did this because we felt that prayer was making the monsters of runescape too easy. Here is what you heard about: Primefalcon 25-Aug-2006 23:18:25 Last edited on 25-Aug-2006 23:21:03 by Primefalcon MODERATOR: THIS WAS PART OF THE LAST PRAYER UPDATE ON TOP OF THE STICKY so IT IS A RECENT UPDATE hell the most recent please check before you lock next time ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As many of you will notice the prayer drain rate as been doubled in the last update, I recently wrote a letter to customer support hoping this was a bug and was horrified by the answer: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greetings Primefalcon, Thank you for contacting RuneScape Prayer Support. You may feel that we are favouring the player killers in the game. We are not. We feel that the prayers were lasting too long, and this was not providing enough of a challenge when battling the monsters of RuneScape. Players are always made aware of the dangers of going into the wilderness, this is not going to change. Regardless of the prayers you are using, you are going to find player there who are stronger than you. Just be prepared with prayer pots and food, lots and lots of food! Does that look reliable AT ALL? Not flamming you Leesters, simply showing you. : He said Prayer support rofl. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leesters Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Lol. Prayer support. Thats a dead give-away, eh? Okay, so that was a fake I was hearing about, eh? Okay, but still my prayer drain for protection prayers has changed drastically. I'm gonna do a fight cave test tonight. Wouldn't it be hilarious if I actually got the cape when I'm just trying to do a test? lol. Before the update, I'd have 6.5 prayer pots left with a certain inventory set up. If I follow the same process.... well, we'll see. Then, after I see that the difference is NOT my imagination, I'm crusading. lol. Very persusive bug reports are gonna fly. When I heard that the prayer drain was by design, I conceded. Now that Paul said its not by design, I'm fired up again to get the "bug" fixed. First I gotta test it to make sure I"m not imagining things. I don't think I am. Its a noticable difference so far. A circus in Runescape?? Oh my. REMEMBER RUNESCAPE KARMA! Be a nice player, and nice things will come back to you.I'm back, add me if you deleted me. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchkinmage Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Before the update, I'd have 6.5 prayer pots left with a certain inventory set up. If I follow the same process.... well, we'll see. The results of that can vary depending on how much you hit... the only REALLY CONCLUSIVE way would be to get a video from before the update, and compare the rates while playing the video and wearing the exact same outfit. :shame: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan18 Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 i just did a test - 30 prayer points in 107 seconds, with +5 prayer bonus. is that normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leesters Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Too bad I don't know what the old prayer drain rate was, or have a video, or timed it. That would make it easy. No, I don't know if its normal, Stan. I'll just use the the fight cave test, because I'll use the same process I always do. If theres a dose or two difference, then thats not significant. I'm guessing its gonna be a huge difference, though. We'll see. A circus in Runescape?? Oh my. REMEMBER RUNESCAPE KARMA! Be a nice player, and nice things will come back to you.I'm back, add me if you deleted me. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malo2 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 thats ridiculous, prayer drains insanely fast now.. Lastfm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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