Firstly, before I get into the nitty gritty, I'd like to call your attention to this:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You must not reverse-engineer, decompile or modify the Game client software in any way. You must not use a modified/customised version of the client software. You must not create or provide any other means by which the Game may be played by others (including, without limitation, replacement or modified client/server software, server emulators).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As far as I understand it, this FAQ page hasn't been updated in several years. This turn of events only happened recently, but why is everyone so quick to ignore the fine print of their contract that they implicitly signed with Jagex? (And yes, you did sign a contract with them when you created an account with them.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm sorry Makoto, but you misunderstand what a browser like SS is. It absolutely doesn't "reverse-engineer, decompile or modify the Game client software." It is not "a modified/customised version of the client software." It does not "create or provide any other means by which the Game may be played by others" and it is not "replacement or modified client/server software" or "server emulator" software. It accesses the game exactly the same way as any other browser like IE or Firefox does. That is why it has been legal all along.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The "grey" areas had to do advertising and adding unfair advantages. While the software itself did not disable advertising, it did allow the user to do so themselves which breaks the rules. So, even though the software didn't break the rules, it "encouraged" users to do so. It is arguable whether the "world switcher" feature gave users an unfair advantage. The creator of SS always argued that it didn't because you couldn't use the software to switch worlds faster (in crowded world situations, it is actually slower). But, it did keep you from having to get carpal tunnel syndrome from repeated clicking on the full world. This can be argued as giving an advantage because many players would not bother to try to get into the world if they had to continuously click over and over again. And also, if you couldn't get into the new world, you weren't logged out of the old one, so you wouldn't have to log back into it. That could also be considered an advantage. But, by bookmarking the world in IE, you get the same advantages, so this is all very debatable.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The fair trade laws of most countries (and internationally) abhor companies restricting third parties from creating products based on their existing product. It's a way of trying to "corner the market." This would be like GM saying that you can only use GM air cleaners in their cars. Lexmark lost in court when they tried to void people's warranties for using third party toner cartridges. I think Jagex comes very close to committing the same error when they try to say which browser can or can't be used with their product. But, the "newest" version of Rule 7 brings them back into better compliance with the intent of widely recognized fair trade laws, in my humble opinion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for explaining that. BBC tried to argue the same point as Mokoto did earlier. SS wins again :P

Very good points! Also, anybody can resize their browser window to hide the adverts. I'm sure everybody that uses the internet has become completely immune to advertisements anyways. We see them everywhere, yet we've learned to completely ignore them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't see a huge problem (for most people) in SwiftSwitch being modified to show adverts from Runescape.com. Most of us are just going to ignore them anyways.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Besides, it's only fair that way.

Very good points! Also, anybody can resize their browser window to hide the adverts. I'm sure everybody that uses the internet has become completely immune to advertisements anyways. We see them everywhere, yet we've learned to completely ignore them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't see a huge problem (for most people) in SwiftSwitch being modified to show adverts from Runescape.com. Most of us are just going to ignore them anyways.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Besides, it's only fair that way.

The adverts are what pay for f2p. If you remove the adverts you remove f2p as well. Andrew said this himself.

 

Very good points! Also, anybody can resize their browser window to hide the adverts. I'm sure everybody that uses the internet has become completely immune to advertisements anyways. We see them everywhere, yet we've learned to completely ignore them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't see a huge problem (for most people) in SwiftSwitch being modified to show adverts from Runescape.com. Most of us are just going to ignore them anyways.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Besides, it's only fair that way.

The adverts are what pay for f2p. If you remove the adverts you remove f2p as well. Andrew said this himself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In that case. DO Remove them! :)

 

 

 

In that case. DO Remove them! :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, if we remove F2p then members cant buy what f2p gets:

 

 

 

Yews

 

 

 

Ess

 

 

 

...other stuff :-k

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and im really confused about this. can u use SS? or can u not?

 

 

 

 

In that case. DO Remove them! :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, if we remove F2p then members cant buy what f2p gets:

 

 

 

Yews

 

 

 

Ess

 

 

 

...other stuff :-k

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and im really confused about this. can u use SS? or can u not?

Not until its updated this weekend. Then it will be safe to use.

 

 

 

 

 

In that case. DO Remove them! :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, if we remove F2p then members cant buy what f2p gets:

 

 

 

Yews

 

 

 

Ess

 

 

 

...other stuff :-k

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and im really confused about this. can u use SS? or can u not?

Not until its updated this weekend. Then it will be safe to use.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yeah... when this week end... cause its saturday now...

yeah... when this week end... cause its saturday now...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sunday is also a weekend. Basically, it's promised that you will be able to use it on Monday.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I personally don't use it, but I believe that's what was said.

 

yeah... when this week end... cause its saturday now...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sunday is also a weekend. Basically, it's promised that you will be able to use it on Monday.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I personally don't use it, but I believe that's what was said.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

no... i was wonderin what day it was for others... so i could get a bearing on when is the weekend...

riakk... change your avvy... i just freeze up just by looking at it

riakk... change your avvy... i just freeze up just by looking at it

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

what do you all have against it? please let me know!?!?!

 

riakk... change your avvy... i just freeze up just by looking at it

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

what do you all have against it? please let me know!?!?!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ohh my.. i just started chuckeling when i looked at it.. its a good one :)

what is SS?

what is SS?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you can't be bothered to read the 100 other posts answering this question then I will give you a different answer. SS stands for Snake Soup. :roll:

 

 

riakk... change your avvy... i just freeze up just by looking at it

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

what do you all have against it? please let me know!?!?!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ohh my.. i just started chuckeling when i looked at it.. its a good one :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

well thankyou! that was what i was trying to do have a funny avatar... but apparently not...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BTW isnt ss sour soup :uhh:

so have they changed it so that we can use it yet?

Read the updates there, strider will update it when it is ready for use. *sigh*[/url]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit - Nevermind, Tip.it word blocker screws the url up no matter how I put it. :(

Read the updates there, strider will update it when it is ready for use. *sigh*[/url]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit - Nevermind, Tip.it word blocker screws the url up no matter how I put it. :(

 

 

 

What??? http://www.zybez.net ???

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~Mr. Devnull

 

Read the updates there, strider will update it when it is ready for use. *sigh*[/url]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit - Nevermind, Tip.it word blocker screws the url up no matter how I put it. :(

 

 

 

What??? http://www.zybez.net ???

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~Mr. Devnull

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No, I meant of course

Who needs to do that? Just use the official start site for SS!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~Mr. Devnull

SS has been updated :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...stick that in your pipe and smoke it, SS haters 8-)

SS has been updated :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...stick that in your pipe and smoke it, SS haters 8-)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

well said!!! its not evern that much different... ha! we did itz!!@#$%^&*(

SS has been updated :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...stick that in your pipe and smoke it, SS haters 8-)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I second that! :D

 

SS has been updated :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...stick that in your pipe and smoke it, SS haters 8-)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I second that! :D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

oi i second that! your 3rd pl0x :D ?

Yay the new version is out. Not a whole lot changed. I'm glad to see it back. Dling it now :D .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Since the new version is legal to use then tip.it needs to allow me to access the official tip.it chat through SS. It's currently blocked.