F2p Mage Proposal *Read it now!* 105 supporters!!!!

[2shae]

Add me coolguy878 (P2P)

[unkn0wnwarrior]

theres another alternative to new mage robes, buy members

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That still doesn't balance the combat triangle in F2P so therefore your comment is obsolete. Care to actually add to the thread next time?

[Zaaps1]

 

theres another alternative to new mage robes, buy members

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That still doesn't balance the combat triangle in F2P so therefore your comment is obsolete. Care to actually add to the thread next time?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ugh, call the clean-up patrol.....

[Komodoman360]

It's that time again kids...BUMP TIME!!!!!!

[limpbizkit]

 

 

theres another alternative to new mage robes, buy members

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That still doesn't balance the combat triangle in F2P so therefore your comment is obsolete. Care to actually add to the thread next time?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ugh, call the clean-up patrol.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yeah and that was inapropiate too

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but i know the felling when i was f2p i couldnt use mage due to no full robe set...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but the thing is why not just put up with it because no updates are going to happen...but i support the idea

[Zaaps1]

 

 

 

theres another alternative to new mage robes, buy members

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That still doesn't balance the combat triangle in F2P so therefore your comment is obsolete. Care to actually add to the thread next time?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ugh, call the clean-up patrol.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yeah and that was inapropiate too

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Who are you talking too?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry, I just had to know.

[Komodoman360]

bump, and lets not start arguing, or making crass comments, ok, let's just try to stay on topic

[Eatmyshort0]

Apologies for only reading the first page of this thread, still I would like to give my opinion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree with the topic starter. I am F2P myself, and how I see it, there is no way I am ever going to be P2p, I am not considering it, and so I am not looking at any benefits members get. I only look at how things are in F2p.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How I see it, I think mages and ranged people have a serious disadvantage over Melee people. Why? Mostly because they have to buy most of what they attack with. They can't make it themselves, in any way. F2p players can make their own mithril, addy, or even rune weapons if they want. Mages, apart from the basic ''strike'' spells, are almost completely dependant on buying their weapons every time. The same thing goes for archers. If F2p Melee players can make their own rune swords if they want, why can't F2p archers fletch their own rune arrows?. And why aren't F2p people able to craft their own death or chaos runes? Death runes I might understand, but chaos runes, come on! The altar is accessible for F2p, why not the talisman too?.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The same thing goes for mage clothing really. I am a casual RS player, and on my old Melee account that was lvl 32 or something I had mithril armor. I could have bought addy if I wanted. However, with the Mage account I am now using, I am stuck with a robe, an amulet, and a hat, and a shield I can't even smith myself. That's all I have as real mage clothing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In all honesty, I don't give a damn about what P2p players get, or what they can wear. As I see it now, F2p Melee players have a serious advantage over both mages and archers when it comes to obtaining their own weapons and armor. Archers and rangers are often very dependant on P2p players for getting their stuff together, compared to F2p melee players who can just buy their rune stuff in the Champion's guild.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I hope you don't take this post a bit lightly, as I don't really give about the entire situation much, but still I think it would be nice to see some changes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Eatmyshort0

[Zaaps1]

 

 

 

why can't F2p archers fletch their own rune arrows?.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Because we can't use rune arrows :D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But I hear ya, and totally get what your saying, but lets keep it realistic ok? Things on the list that might acually happen are:

 

 

 

• New mage robes
   
   
   
  Craft chaos
   
   
   
  Low level fletching

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But thats almost everything isn't it? :D

[yanksrule]

im sorry youve never been a member but if you were a member for at least 2-3 months you would learn that it would totally f up the economic system of runescape. firstly you wouldnt be able to get the robes from any "difficult" monsters to kill. the highest monster you f2ps can kill are greater deamons.

 

 

 

you can get mystic roes from the mage guild (68 mage if im not mistaken) and the only monster that drops mystic robes is a slayer monster, dragons, and black deamons. and getting a drop like that is quite rare. i dont think that any monsters you guys have could supply any mystic armor item considering lesser deamons -highest drop is rune medium high alch is aprox 12k- dont even have the best drops in the world.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the deamon is level 82 and you can get a key half from it and sell it for 30k. almost 3 times as much as rune medium. discluding the key half you can get a dragon spear for about 150k as drops for p2p.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a full set of mystic robes (torso, bottom robe, gloves, boots, and hat) whole thing is about 250-300k. now since non members wont be able to get these robes the price will SKY ROCKET. now i predict the price will be at least twice as much as it is as it is in members.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

as for the ghostly robes-impossible unthinkable not even worth your thoughts....maybe hopes but definitly not possible. keep dreamin....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

my answer is to just get members.. i mean just save 15 dollars and then fool around with the mage gear and do dt so you can have ghostly robes. just get your mom/dad (im sure you all have a parent or guardian with a credit card or order yourself one) to get you membership and you could get it for free/partial payment on your part/or just pay it yourself. most 13 year olds that play runescape have jobs that pay 6 dollars+ each HOUR.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i do applaud you for the thought

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

=D> =D> =D> =D>

 

 

 

=D> =D> =D> =D>

 

 

 

but am fustrated at your stupidity

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:

 

 

 

#-o #-o #-o #-o

[Tetsuya]

im sorry youve never been a member but if you were a member for at least 2-3 months you would learn that it would totally f up the economic system of runescape.

 

 

 

Well. I have been a member(more than 2-3 months btw). And Making some f2p robes will not f up the economic system. Especially if the robes were a reward for a quest.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a full set of mystic robes (torso, bottom robe, gloves, boots, and hat) whole thing is about 250-300k. now since non members wont be able to get these robes the price will SKY ROCKET. now i predict the price will be at least twice as much as it is as it is in members.

 

 

 

Mystic robes weren't in f2p in the first place. So, there's nothing to really skyrocket. But now that I think about it. Making mystic f2p won't work well anyways.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

as for the ghostly robes-impossible unthinkable not even worth your thoughts....maybe hopes but definitly not possible.

 

 

 

I was thinking of having a 3 piece set that has close to the same stats at 3 of the ghost robe pieces, but without the translucent effect. That would be a perfect new robe set for f2p.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

my answer is to just get members.. i mean just save 15 dollars and then fool around with the mage gear and do dt so you can have ghostly robes. just get your mom/dad (im sure you all have a mom and or dad with a credit card or order yourself one) to get you membership and you could get it for free/partial payment on your part/or just pay it yourself

 

 

 

 

 

 

But this topic is about making f2p robes. "just get members" is not a acceptable answer. "Just getting members" won't change a thing for f2p balance. :wall:

[limpbizkit]

 

 

 

 

why can't F2p archers fletch their own rune arrows?.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Because we can't use rune arrows :D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But I hear ya, and totally get what your saying, but lets keep it realistic ok? Things on the list that might acually happen are:

 

 

 

• New mage robes
   
   
   
  Craft chaos
   
   
   
  Low level fletching

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But thats almost everything isn't it? :D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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HA!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

your joking the only thing they havea tiny chance of is mage robes and thats a tiny 1

[Doughnut]

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HA!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

your joking the only thing they havea tiny chance of is mage robes and thats a tiny 1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually I wouldn't rule out fletching or chaos, since F2P get one or two major updates a year(not counting graphical updates) whats to say that they won't have access to low level fletching or making runes. Fletching is not as likely as chaos runes, but there's still the chance that they could have access to it in a year or two.

[anantipure]

Support, I need all the incentive I can get to get me to raise my mage level (even though I'm p2p).

[ml417]

about chos crafting if no 1 said it before me its kinda hard to do cuz u need pure essens true they are f2p but only way to get them is in p2p so there will be a new thing to buy... pure essens insted of choas runes well i think all u could craft in f2p would be a few gp and u better get someone to post this on offical forms or u will never get it and ur mage armer looks like i differnt version of mage t i go with the dark mage stuff

[Zaaps1]

about chos crafting if no 1 said it before me its kinda hard to do cuz u need pure essens true they are f2p but only way to get them is in p2p so there will be a new thing to buy... pure essens insted of choas runes well i think all u could craft in f2p would be a few gp and u better get someone to post this on offical forms or u will never get it and ur mage armer looks like i differnt version of mage t i go with the dark mage stuff

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

True, so pure ess prices would rise even more, or chaos would be regular ess craftable. Neither is a good path to take.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But lets stay on the topic ok?

[Komodoman360]

I have a few things to say, since i am the one who started this topic, so shhhh :-$ :

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Craft chaos

 

 

 

I never said anything about chaos crafting, you know why, because it wasn't that good of an idea because members would sell pure ess for A LOT in f2p, because everything that is members, but tradeable to f2p skyrockets in price, lets take wizzy g for example, it should sel for about 400-500k in rs, but when you go to world one, USUALLY the LOWEST you see is 630k. Now lets apply the same principal to the pure essence. Let's say that in p2p it sells for 60 gp, thats about twice regular essence price, now bring that to f2p, with members being the only source, you could see the price double or triple in amount, to about 120-180gp (just a guestimate, don't hurt me!!!! :shock:).

 

 

 

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Low level fletching

 

 

 

Now fletching, I didn't suggest because this is about mage, not ranged, the ranged part of the triangle is just fine, its the mage part thats a problem.

 

 

 

3. And as to your comment on the robes, I am working on creating a better version of the actual robes, but it takes a while, especially using paint.

 

 

 

4. You had better all behave, or else1 :evil:

[Komodoman360]

bump

[Stihl]

As I see it now, F2p Melee players have a serious advantage over both mages and archers when it comes to obtaining their own weapons and armor. Archers and rangers are often very dependant on P2p players for getting their stuff together, compared to F2p melee players who can just buy their rune stuff in the Champion's guild.

Quite right, though not an accurate comparison to the imbalance in f2p combat.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

F2p's mages cannot make their own runes, but they do have an 'almost-as-good', and that's direct purchases from members. You can suffice with the alternative, or you can purchase membership. F2p's mages also cannot effectively compete with players of other classes at their combat levels - they have no 'almost-as-good'. That (in my humble opinion) is a problem, because players who try maging as f2p's have at best a mixed incentive to become members. After seeing firsthand that the combat system is imbalanced, would you really want to purchase membership, in hopes that the combat system there is more reasonable?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you can get mystic robes from the mage guild (68 mage if im not mistaken) and from no monsters from my understanding.

66 magic...and a number of slayer monsters drop mystic robes, they just aren't blue. Your comments on monsters are cute, but I fail to see how they are relevant.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

im sorry youve never been a member but if you were a member for at least 2-3 months you would learn that it would totally f up the economic system of runescape.

The economy would not crumble like so much damp papier mache just from blue mystic becoming tradeable to non-members. It would initially be more expensive on non-member worlds, as colored gloves are now, that much is true. However, I severely doubt it would be all so bad as you preach, because unlike colored gloves, the robes would have function, and thus significant demand. Between the influx of mystic robes into non-member worlds, and the quick change of hands that mystic sets would undergo thanks to PKing, the price would normalize.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

as for the ghostly robes-impossible unthinkable not even worth your thoughts....maybe hopes but definitly not possible.

I mentionned ghostly robes back on page two simply for the bonuses they had. You might even notice that the equipment I made up back there had bonuses comparable to ghostly robes. I don't need your spaz attack to figure out that Desert Treasure isn't going to become a non-member quest, and neither does anybody else, so calm down.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

my answer is to just get members...

A pity Komodoman already covered that in the original post. Not that anyone would ever want to read that before posting, of course.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i do applaud you for the thought, but am fustrated at your stupidity

You might be noticing a light pressure on your trachea right about now - that's your foot. Feel free to post again after you've dislodged it.

[Komodoman360]

bump

[scruff636b]

support'd

[Captainkidd]

A Anti-dragon shield give NO magic attack bouns, I asume you have it because its the ONLY shield that doesn't give less magic bouns attack, also the def can go up a bit from leather chaps, strong hold boots, andy cape and any gloves, its not alot of def but its some : Any ways, I think f2p could deserve this (getting magic aromor in all) Add me, maybe just make mystic f2p, blue mystic.

[unkn0wnwarrior]

A Anti-dragon shield give NO magic attack bouns, I asume you have it because its the ONLY shield that doesn't give less magic bouns attack, also the def can go up a bit from leather chaps, strong hold boots, andy cape and any gloves, its not alot of def but its some : Any ways, I think f2p could deserve this (getting magic aromor in all) Add me, maybe just make mystic f2p, blue mystic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You aren't quite right with that part... Wooden shield also doesn't take away from the attack but other than that your points seem alright.

[Warlover]

Good idea, needs a bit of work but I support it

[predator09]

i suport :D