Mordendravid Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 The one thing that Jagex has done through the update and subsequent revision of their rules is to finally acknowledge the existence of 3rd Party Softwares and provided guidelines for authors who have created or wish to create one in the future. In doing so they have also generated a great deal of publicity for the better known toolkits such as SS. To my way of thinking this has to be a good thing, previously reference to, or even posting images where the application was visible were banned on these forums. Now since the rules updates, players are (seemingly) able to openly discuss the pros and cons of using a 3rd party client and proffer opinions on how trustworthy they may or may not be. As such readers of this and other forums have access to much greater information allowing them to make a more informed choice on whether or not they wish to use such a tool. The results of last week's poll, whilst showing that just under 1 in 4 Tip.Iters use some form of 3rd party client, actually highlighted a more interesting fact - nearly half didn't actually know what one was. Were the same poll to be cast in a month's time I would imagine that the results would be quite different. Personally I have never used any 3rd party client, though have considered it, mostly for the inbuilt IRC to avoid having to re-arrange my screen to accomodate MIRC. I very briefly tried Rune HQ's but found that it crashed or froze continually making it of little value. With the recent update and having spoken to a number of existing users I'm very tempted to now try SS. Overall, my biggest surprise is that Jagex hasn't seen this as an opportunity to purchase one or more of the largest clients, bring it in house so as they control the function (and additional ad space) develop it further in unison with player requirements and subsequently sell it for a one off fee as a bolt on! Looking at the outrage that was caused when it was banned it is clearly something that players value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharockslayer Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Now that Ss is free, I can download it without hassle or fear of getting banned or w/e. Thanks Strider and Jagex :thumbsup: This post does not have any hidden messages, except for this one, dl ss :lol: Interrested in joining the cabbagy madness? Click here to go to our forums, and say hi ^^lol one of the biggest pvp updates of the year, and tip it is discussing granite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2828 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 I think I'll stay with my version 2.37 and it's auto world retry feature, thanks. DOH Can i reinstall 2.37 ? lmao Go for it, If you want to get banned. :wink: LoL I haven't stopped using it, even Jan 2 when they banned it lol. Currently: Quit Ages Ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy87 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 I think I'll stay with my version 2.37 and it's auto world retry feature, thanks. DOH Can i reinstall 2.37 ? lmao Go for it, If you want to get banned. :wink: LoL I haven't stopped using it, even Jan 2 when they banned it lol. then really asking to reinstall it makes no sence if its currently installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1ght5aber1 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Never used it.. and probably never will.. On December 10, 2007, after a long struggle, I finally gave up membership, as the only thing I did in RS, pking, was gone.Jages, you just bit the hands that paid you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uula Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Might be legal, I won't be using it though. I have no use for it really, and there's no reason to download something completely unnecessary like that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquashock Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Ill use it if its worth it again. If it has the worlds all on the side, the random calculators and timers, and the chat (but i can live without it, i got mIRC again >.>) But ill wait for some confermation from jagex that its ok to use. ^^Click For Monster Hunting Blog (180M+ in drops)^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VurtualRuler98 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 i personally use the rs client (so i don't have to use lame IE) i got from the runescape page.. I have no clue where to get ss or any of these nifty lil 3rd party clients Uhh dude, the runescape client IS IE. I'm just gonna try SS, not keep it though. Sir, the Panzerschreck squad is blocking the road! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skully Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Ok, the new SS SUCKS. The irc is rubbish, you cant get on any other servers, it also has a censor, which is pathetic. It also no longer has auto retry for world switching, which is also pathetic. I still don't understand why this was changed as it gave us no unfair advantages. P.S. Does anyone know if it is possible to go back and get one of the earlier versions again? :-s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomdavies90 Posted January 18, 2007 Author Share Posted January 18, 2007 Ok, the new SS SUCKS. The irc is rubbish, you cant get on any other servers, it also has a censor, which is pathetic. It also no longer has auto retry for world switching, which is also pathetic. I still don't understand why this was changed as it gave us no unfair advantages. P.S. Does anyone know if it is possible to go back and get one of the earlier versions again? :-s yeah go on download.com and find it they hadn't updated it yesterday to new version but might of now Sig by me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icecube Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 You do realize that all earlier versions are illegal by JaGEx's rules and you can get banned if you use them, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haitovich Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 I would use SS, but do not want a keylogger that might be attached. I know that there is most likey no keylogger attached, but I won't take my chances. :P ~Saruman44 There are hundreds of thousands of players who use it and thousands with much more valuable banks. What makes you think that if a keylogger was actually attached that they would target you? That's the way I see it... Have you not seen the hundreds of "I got hacked" topics? Now, how many of those are using ss? I simply do not trust it, if you want to then go ahead, I still find Chatzilla better to chat. The only useful toll would be the auto-cropping and there's other *legal* programs for that MY BEST ITEM IS A BRONSE COIN! I KILLED ZEZIMA AND HE DROPED IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakka102 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Ok, the new SS SUCKS. The irc is rubbish, you cant get on any other servers, it also has a censor, which is pathetic. It also no longer has auto retry for world switching, which is also pathetic. I still don't understand why this was changed as it gave us no unfair advantages. P.S. Does anyone know if it is possible to go back and get one of the earlier versions again? :-sOther then the Irc, theres nothing wrong with it...I never even used the auto retry feature for full worlds. I just saved em as a desktop icon and used it from there. It's much faster that way anyway :? . I would use SS, but do not want a keylogger that might be attached. I know that there is most likey no keylogger attached, but I won't take my chances. :P ~Saruman44 There are hundreds of thousands of players who use it and thousands with much more valuable banks. What makes you think that if a keylogger was actually attached that they would target you? That's the way I see it... Have you not seen the hundreds of "I got hacked" topics? Now, how many of those are using ss? I simply do not trust it, if you want to then go ahead, I still find Chatzilla better to chat. The only useful toll would be the auto-cropping and there's other *legal* programs for thatThe hackings have nothing to do with SS (outside of maybe IRC). There is no way to embed a keylogger into an [Caution: ExecutableFile] or SS to the point where an antivirus would not pick it up. I've scanned them both with several programs and nothing. If you DL it from zybez's site its 100% safe (outside of the IRC client of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy87 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Have you not seen the hundreds of "I got hacked" topics? Now, how many of those are using ss? I simply do not trust it, if you want to then go ahead, I still find Chatzilla better to chat. The only useful toll would be the auto-cropping and there's other *legal* programs for thatThe hackings have nothing to do with SS (outside of maybe IRC). There is no way to embed a keylogger into an [Caution: ExecutableFile] or SS to the point where an antivirus would not pick it up. I've scanned them both with several programs and nothing. If you DL it from zybez's site its 100% safe (outside of the IRC client of course). ive never actually heard some1 say they got key logged while using SS, that me personally... also, what wakka says is pretty much true, to combine a virus or any other program with another you need a program to do that your self, which is easy enough to find but he is rite, theirs like 99% chance most up to date virus scanners will catch it. i dont use SS, i dont like SS, but my friend casey is a top admin for RS community. ive also heard RS community scans all pk videos put on forums and such, now im not sure if that part is true at all but i know casey personally and hes a very trust worthy kind of guy and im sure if he uses it, its of best quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon_Scyth Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 I think I'll stay with my version 2.37 and it's auto world retry feature, thanks. So have i =) "Boredom got me playing, Boredom stops me from playing. It's a vicious cycle." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakka102 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 I think I'll stay with my version 2.37 and it's auto world retry feature, thanks. So have i =)Ya'll aren't too smart... You would honestly risk your account over an auto retry feature?...Suit yourself.. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Let me start with, any version other then version 2.39 of SwiftSwitch is now classified as illegal, and you CAN be banned. Ok, lets start with the things missing. IRC Commands Missing: No more '/hop' (Useless command unless your spamming anyway). No more '/notice nick' (Like hop). No more '/msg nick', instead you now must type '/privmsg nick'. No more '/me' (Not a huge loss). Non-IRC Functions Missing: Auto-Retry. Now, about ARetry, I've found, that this lets you retry faster, just click and hit enter constantly, you retry at 2* the speed doing this manual retry. New Addons: On first opening IRC on the new SS, you must sign a contract by typing I Understand. All IRC PM's, now have a warning message at the beginning (not in the way). Ahh, and of course, the chat filter. Not to worry, theres a way around it. File > Options > Chat Options > Then tick the box saying disable mode +f. After you've ticked that box and clicked OK, type '/mode YOURNAME -f', to remove the filter permanently. So you decide, a legal SS, with really only one AFK function (ARetry) missing, or a bannable one. I know what one I'm staying with, but the question is, do you? A person on a different forum posted that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Gromit Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 There is no way to embed a keylogger into an [Caution: ExecutableFile] I kind of disagree... Even though the ones available from zybez/rune hq are safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakka102 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 There is no way to embed a keylogger into an [Caution: ExecutableFile] I kind of disagree... Even though the ones available from zybez/rune hq are safe.?? you didn't even quote my whole sentence. I said embed it to the point where it cannot be picked up. Any keylogger will be picked up if you have a good antivirus no matter where it is. I know it can be embedded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2828 Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 I think I'll stay with my version 2.37 and it's auto world retry feature, thanks. DOH Can i reinstall 2.37 ? lmao Go for it, If you want to get banned. :wink: LoL I haven't stopped using it, even Jan 2 when they banned it lol. then really asking to reinstall it makes no sence if its currently installed. I have the new 2.39 version. So it does make sense ;) Currently: Quit Ages Ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy87 Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 the way you stated it implies the idea that you never stopped using 2.37... LoL I haven't stopped using it, even Jan 2 when they banned it lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGBR Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 I love it how people still think its legal... unless Jagex said it was (and I know they NEVER will) The world would be a whole lot better if little green men in UFO's came down to earth to abduct rednecks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 I love it how people still think its legal... unless Jagex said it was (and I know they NEVER will) It isn't illegal if that's what you're trying to convey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Avatar Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 I dont get this use it if you like if you dont theres no need to treat people who do like cheaters. the way you stated it implies the idea that you never stopped using 2.37... LoL I haven't stopped using it, even Jan 2 when they banned it lol. it basicly updates itself also the fact that it doesnt tell you what the updates gonna do before hand, he had no way of knowing it would take the ability to auto-retry until connecting. Previously known as Monkeybeast0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icecube Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 I love it how people still think its legal... unless Jagex said it was (and I know they NEVER will) Lol, JaGEx will never say a third-party program is legal because they're afraid of what may happen if they do. It'd be like openly admitting that Swiftswitch is superior to their client (duh!) and people should use it. It was legal before that rule change, but JaGEx never said so either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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