Nadril Posted August 11, 2007 Author Share Posted August 11, 2007 Its really not hard to be able to do good DPS in a raid. I know you're 15/41/5, the general finisher rotation for that is 1s/3s/5r, you're doing that right? Also I'm too lazy to check your armory but did you get a faster OH? Even if you didn't go mutilate combat because you don't need a fast OH with it. I dunno, kind of seems like you're giving up too easy. The good thing about a rogue is we are the top damage dealers, and with a good melee group we can make up for any shortcomings our spec has. Tell your guild to run a rogue/rogue/enh shaman/warrior/druid team or something similar for a DPS group in raiding (25 mans that is mostly). That matchup has a ton of DPS in it. edit: got the 2 piece HWL set (shoulders/gloves) lol. The set gives me +35 resil so it put me at 106 or so resilience in PvP gear, not bad for having no merc armor yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biox Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 Its really not hard to be able to do good DPS in a raid. I know you're 15/41/5, the general finisher rotation for that is 1s/3s/5r, you're doing that right? Also I'm too lazy to check your armory but did you get a faster OH? Even if you didn't go mutilate combat because you don't need a fast OH with it. I dunno, kind of seems like you're giving up too easy. The good thing about a rogue is we are the top damage dealers, and with a good melee group we can make up for any shortcomings our spec has. Tell your guild to run a rogue/rogue/enh shaman/warrior/druid team or something similar for a DPS group in raiding (25 mans that is mostly). That matchup has a ton of DPS in it. The rotation varies, on trash clears is definitely 1s/3s/5r but on boss fights I prefer (and have been told that I'm doing it right) 3s/5s/5r. No I dont have enough points to buy the OH yet. I still probably will, even with the respec. Giving up to easy, I don't think so man. I've respecced so many times, that friggin dwarf trainer in IF has put all his ugly children through college. I've had very good rogues walk me through it all step by step, and ask me all the same questions over and over. I've read every single theory crafting thread on EJ and all the good threads on Roguespot, followed them to the finest detail, everything. The only thing I haven't tried is getting some swords and respeccing into them, and as my talented and experienced mentor tells me, it's not really worth the expense and time, as they arent hugely ahead (especially considering the upcoming patch). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted August 11, 2007 Author Share Posted August 11, 2007 Swords scale infinitely better than daggers, and are much better. I can tell you how much of a difference it makes once I go combat swords when I get my MH. What exactly is the problem though, I mean, what are you getting out DPS'd by? Perhaps they have really good gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biox Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 Swords scale infinitely better than daggers, and are much better. I can tell you how much of a difference it makes once I go combat swords when I get my MH. What exactly is the problem though, I mean, what are you getting out DPS'd by? Perhaps they have really good gear. Put it this way. Tonight I did a 5 man (heroic arc) with these people: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dath'Remar&n=Ellaira http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dath'Remar&n=Yabani http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dath'Remar&n=Docryn http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dath'Remar&n=Diedora Ellaira raped me, she was more than double my damage. I was 4th on the meter, with something like 160k damage dealt. Edit: stupid forum.. you'll have to c/p the links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted August 11, 2007 Author Share Posted August 11, 2007 Swords scale infinitely better than daggers, and are much better. I can tell you how much of a difference it makes once I go combat swords when I get my MH. What exactly is the problem though, I mean, what are you getting out DPS'd by? Perhaps they have really good gear. Put it this way. Tonight I did a 5 man (heroic arc) with these people: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dath'Remar&n=Ellaira http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dath'Remar&n=Yabani http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dath'Remar&n=Docryn http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dath'Remar&n=Diedora Ellaira raped me, she was more than double my damage. I was 4th on the meter, with something like 160k damage dealt. Edit: stupid forum.. you'll have to c/p the links. There should be no reason you're getting out dps'd. The mage, I can understand that. They are better for burst damage and 5 mans are about that. However you should NOT have gotten out DPS'd by the tank, It has to be something that you yourself are doing wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biox Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 It has to be something that you yourself are doing wrong. I know. I don't know what it is though, and I've worn people's patience thin trying to find it out. Anyways it's 5:45am and I just found this pic: So I need to go sleep now. Bai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted August 11, 2007 Author Share Posted August 11, 2007 Man locks are so powerful. Dual boxing a lock/resto druid combo now.... locks are just wow. I'm trying him as a felguard build (7/43/11) and its great for arena. Lot of survivability, good control over a fight (I can have my pet just DPS a guy while I work on doing what I need to do for support) and I'm a [bleep] to take down. On top of that my pet pulls out some impressive DPS (I've seen him getting 800 crits with cleave) and I myself can do well too. I've always wondered how locks were at 70 and I can say, without a doubt, they are one of the most powerful classes in the game so far. Out of all the classes I've tested on PTR they've stood out as #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmage099 Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 I'm starting to do instances on my 24 priests (WC SFK), and I love healing; it's so damn easy. The only things you have to worry about are boss fights and bad pulls. I just kind of sit there mildly dpsing if I have nothing to do. I seriously good browse forums and heal for an instance at the same time. Down side: [bleep]ING TANKS! Some tanks we use (theres a lack of them on our server) just go right along to the next mob even though the priest, mage, and warlock are low on mana. It's so annoying. Then they pee their pants and quit the raid. Other problem is when orcs use bloodfury. No matter how many times I tell them I WONT heal them if they have it (blatant waste of mana!) they continue to use it and are like "Wtf dude I where were teh Healz". I respeced to frost. It sucks so bad..I also forgot to put mpoints in shatter (wind chill) #-o :x Trix.--quit WoW as of 12/07Thank you 4be2jue for the wonderful sig and avatar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil_Elf Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 Hit 360 blacksmithing today, from 0 yesterday....13/20 primal fires and counting, then it's drakefist time. Now I'll finally have a reason to use my s2 mace OH :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted August 11, 2007 Author Share Posted August 11, 2007 Nice Evil_Elf. I'd go after it as well but I can get my S2 Main hand next week, so no real point now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted August 12, 2007 Author Share Posted August 12, 2007 Gruuls lair on farm now, first time setting foot in it for my guild. :P Got my T4 shoulders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kido14 Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 The rotation varies, on trash clears is definitely 1s/3s/5r but on boss fights I prefer (and have been told that I'm doing it right) 3s/5s/5r. What? Last.fm: http://www.last.fm/user/Aaronm14/MY FAVORITE BAND:http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... d=64310717And the bible is the big book of lies, call me a racist if you must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedofsound Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 hahaha, I just experienced my first raid today with Lionheart. It was awesome, the most fun i've had on WoW. Ever. Unfortunatley the server went offline in the middle of it (it was ptr), but it was still good fun. You can't ever find a place that's nice and peaceful, because there isn't any. You may think there is, but once you get there, when you're not looking, somebody'll sneak up and write "(bleep) you" right under your nose. Try it sometime. I think, even, if I ever die, and they stick me in a cemetery, and I have a tombstone and all, it'll say "Holden Caulfield" on it, and then what year I was born and what year I died, and then right under that it'll say "(bleep) you." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted August 12, 2007 Author Share Posted August 12, 2007 The rotation varies, on trash clears is definitely 1s/3s/5r but on boss fights I prefer (and have been told that I'm doing it right) 3s/5s/5r. What? Sorry its a rogue thing. Its a reference to our finishing move cycle, where s is Slice and Dice and r is rupture. In that it means do a 1cp SnD/3cp SnD/5cp rupture and repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biox Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 The rotation varies, on trash clears is definitely 1s/3s/5r but on boss fights I prefer (and have been told that I'm doing it right) 3s/5s/5r. What? Sorry its a rogue thing. Its a reference to our finishing move cycle, where s is Slice and Dice and r is rupture. In that it means do a 1cp SnD/3cp SnD/5cp rupture and repeat. Yeah get back to your mp5's and your spell crit. Or something. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kido14 Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 The rotation varies, on trash clears is definitely 1s/3s/5r but on boss fights I prefer (and have been told that I'm doing it right) 3s/5s/5r. What? Sorry its a rogue thing. Its a reference to our finishing move cycle, where s is Slice and Dice and r is rupture. In that it means do a 1cp SnD/3cp SnD/5cp rupture and repeat. Yeah get back to your mp5's and your spell crit. Or something. :lol: Ahh nice =P. I don't play WoW anymore, I was thought it might be some new thing lol. Never heard anyone say that stuff before Last.fm: http://www.last.fm/user/Aaronm14/MY FAVORITE BAND:http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... d=64310717And the bible is the big book of lies, call me a racist if you must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad25891 Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 Offtopic: Wewt 100 pages :o Ontopic: Nadril, any comments on the voice chat in game? Deviant Art Account2 Signatures | 6 Photographs | 1 Other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubsa Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 Even I knew that! And I'm stuck in forest...killing boars. This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted August 12, 2007 Author Share Posted August 12, 2007 Offtopic: Wewt 100 pages :o Ontopic: Nadril, any comments on the voice chat in game? Still really buggy. It was working for my friend alright but I for the life of me can't get it so other people hear me, even with it enabled. It looks to be good once they get it working though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionheart_0 Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 Offtopic: Wewt 100 pages :o Ontopic: Nadril, any comments on the voice chat in game? Still really buggy. It was working for my friend alright but I for the life of me can't get it so other people hear me, even with it enabled. It looks to be good once they get it working though.[/quote What set up are you using? I know some people are not being heard unless they put on the voice activation which means the mic will only activate with your voice. The problem though, is i find anyone using this gives me an echo.I'm not sure though if its due to them having a mic and speakers set up or if its a bug. If you are using a head set, anything you hear shouldnt go through the mic, thus no echo. Try making sure you use a head set cause thats the only thing that seems to be working for people right now. Sig by IkuraiYour Guide to Posting! Behave or I will send my Moose mounted Beaver launchers at you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted August 12, 2007 Author Share Posted August 12, 2007 Offtopic: Wewt 100 pages :o Ontopic: Nadril, any comments on the voice chat in game? Still really buggy. It was working for my friend alright but I for the life of me can't get it so other people hear me, even with it enabled. It looks to be good once they get it working though. What set up are you using? I know some people are not being heard unless they put on the voice activation which means the mic will only activate with your voice. The problem though, is i find anyone using this gives me an echo.I'm not sure though if its due to them having a mic and speakers set up or if its a bug. If you are using a head set, anything you hear shouldnt go through the mic, thus no echo. Try making sure you use a head set cause thats the only thing that seems to be working for people right now. Yeah I use a desktop mic. I can hear myself if I record it in WoW but others can't hear me talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionheart_0 Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 :wink: they are only about 12$ Best pvp video ever. Sig by IkuraiYour Guide to Posting! Behave or I will send my Moose mounted Beaver launchers at you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbellz Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 Best pvp video ever. :lol: What's up with people posting that? According to the comments, that happens a lot to people. Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubsa Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 Best pvp video ever. :lol: What's up with people posting that? According to the comments, that happens a lot to people. Haha You're about to become green with envy... I'm going to see him in concert on the 1st/2nd of September! This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionheart_0 Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 Best pvp video ever. :lol: What's up with people posting that? According to the comments, that happens a lot to people. Haha You're about to become green with envy... I'm going to see him in concert on the 1st/2nd of September! *kicks Bubsa and steals tickets*... now just to figure out where it is.... Sig by IkuraiYour Guide to Posting! Behave or I will send my Moose mounted Beaver launchers at you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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