February 22, 200719 yr =D> CASE CLOSED =D> I fell to your blade by lack of skill, yet i feel no shame, i feel inspired
February 22, 200719 yr I'm pretty sure some Jagex mod explained it somewhere. It's like you have 2 roulette wheels. The first wheel contains the nomal drops and a spot for a rare drop. The ring of wealth does NOT have an effect on what you draw on this wheel. But, if your lucky and draw the rare item spot on the first wheel a 2nd wheel will start. Now, when your wearing the ROW you have a bigger chance to get a rarer item from the 2nd wheel. This guy wins a cookie, and the thread.
February 22, 200719 yr drops are probably decided by a random number generator, the wealth works in the 'roulette wheel' way that has been explained. it's all still random, but the wealth likely gives a small bonus to the number generated. that's my theory anyway I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr
February 23, 200719 yr I'm pretty sure some Jagex mod explained it somewhere. It's like you have 2 roulette wheels. The first wheel contains the nomal drops and a spot for a rare drop. The ring of wealth does NOT have an effect on what you draw on this wheel. But, if your lucky and draw the rare item spot on the first wheel a 2nd wheel will start. Now, when your wearing the ROW you have a bigger chance to get a rarer item from the 2nd wheel. Darn beat me to it. Kudos to you though. =D> 269 QP | All Stats 60+ (except Summoning) | Barrows Drops: 8 | Dragon Drops: 1
February 23, 200719 yr ROW has no effect on clue scrolls, defenders, etc because theyre not worth as much gold. t does have an effect, so it is best warn when you want the highest priced item a monster drops; e.g. chain from KQ, dragon legs/skirt from metal drags etc. That is where people are wrong. ROW has an effect on clue scrolls and other items worth not as much gold: you actually have LESS of a chance of getting the drop. Think about it... if you get a good drop 1/5 times and a bad drop 4/5 regularly. Wear a ring of wealth and you get a good drop 2/5 times, making the others, seemingly useless drops less common (3/5) (Note the numbers I used were picked out of my head, and are no way accurate)
February 23, 200719 yr So basically, to sum up: If you're at steel dragons, and you're getting a rare every 20 drops, you'll get a rare every 20 drops with or without the ROW. But without the ROW you might get 1 in every 10 rare drops being a dragon items, but with it on you'll get 2 out of 10 rares being a dragon items. (as the dragon items are worth more to the general store than say a half key) Numbers are made up of course, but is that roughly the idea? My Blog To 87 Construction
February 23, 200719 yr ROW has no effect on clue scrolls, defenders, etc because theyre not worth as much gold. t does have an effect, so it is best warn when you want the highest priced item a monster drops; e.g. chain from KQ, dragon legs/skirt from metal drags etc. That is where people are wrong. ROW has an effect on clue scrolls and other items worth not as much gold: you actually have LESS of a chance of getting the drop. Think about it... if you get a good drop 1/5 times and a bad drop 4/5 regularly. Wear a ring of wealth and you get a good drop 2/5 times, making the others, seemingly useless drops less common (3/5) (Note the numbers I used were picked out of my head, and are no way accurate) Nonono See, the row doesn't help the first wheel. OK, as an example let's say a monster can drop: -giant eagle octopus- Nothing Rune medium helmet 10 iron arrowtips abyssal whip 12 noted coal ores 4 noted bronze plates Let's say for example 1/3 of the time you get nothing from a monster. OK, then we can fill in the wheel with 1/3 NOTHING category. Let's say that 4/9 of the time, you recive a average item like 10 iron arrowtips, 4 noted bronze plates, or the coal ore. OK, we can fill in the wheel as follows... 1/3 nothing, 4/9 good drop Now, the last bit would be devoted to the rares drop. 1/9th of the time, a wheel is spun. 2/3 of the time it switches to the good wheel and rolls that. 1/3 of the time, it goes to the next wheel. The next wheel, simplified, could b 8/9ths rune med, and 1/9 abyssal whip. The chances of you getting an abbyssal whip in this case? 1/9 times 1/3 times 1/9. One in 243 chance. This is baisics of how it works. Now, possibly the RoW would make the wheel be 2/9 abyssal whip and 7/9 rune med. Doubling your chances. Other things are OBVIOUSLY altered, but this is a basic overview on how it is. And i covered it quite well I think ^_^
February 23, 200719 yr So basically, to sum up: If you're at steel dragons, and you're getting a rare every 20 drops, you'll get a rare every 20 drops with or without the ROW. But without the ROW you might get 1 in every 10 rare drops being a dragon items, but with it on you'll get 2 out of 10 rares being a dragon items. (as the dragon items are worth more to the general store than say a half key) Numbers are made up of course, but is that roughly the idea? Iron dragon is 1/100 dragon platelegs/dragon skirt. 1/20 times 1/5 = 1/100 I think you're VERY onto something, my good friend =)
February 23, 200719 yr Why double post? Anyway the wheel theroy seems the most logical. I wonder if it would affect your drops from the barrows though :-k
February 23, 200719 yr The ROW helps you get items that are worth more to the general store (3000 coins instead of 150, steel longsword instead of ranarr weed) Lamest attempt at a lure ever.No, Ive seen "selling easter egg 5m must be level 78 77 or 76 and meet at varrock bar unarmed.
February 23, 200719 yr inspired by this interesting topic, i went to go kill dusties, and i keep getting rune arrow drops with my wealth.. hmmm i never used to get so many rune arrow drops without wealth.. i killed 9.5k before with wealth but never noticed much difference i gave up on wealth wen i killed 9.5k dusties without chain, then one day i got a slayer task of 188 dusties, so i went there thinking i'd never get it anyway, but it's good slayer exp so i thought i might aswell.. anyway i ran out of food but i brought my range gear, i had run out of food on the 101st kill, so i ranged 1, just coins... i decided 1 more for luck and then tele and do sum random junk coz i was getting bored.. just as the dust devil was nearly dead i was about to click on the mage hat icon to open up the teles available, then i see a large red item on the floor.. no this time it wasn't a ruby or a red dragonhide vamb which jagex loves dropping to get a laugh of getting our hopes up.. but this time it was large, very large, and had white [bleep]es.. wen i looked at it again i saw "take dragon chainbody" i couldn't believe it.. took screenshot and immediately yelled "omg!!!" for about 5 minutes and then pm'd my friends lol (first dragon drop in 4 years) 2 years later i've now had 24 whip drops and 3 more dragon drops (left half and 2 meds) i wore the wealth for the 9.5k kills but didn't wen i got my d chain on the slayer task, i always find i have much better drops wen on a slayer task, coincidence? i think not.. imo i also read thru most of the ideas in this topic and i think that the person who said about there being 2 wheels, and that wealth does not improve ur luck of a better drop, it improves the likeness of a better chance of a better rare drop on the 2nd wheel, i might do sum investigating myself, i think i have a fair idea of how the wheel system works now, i think i mite draw up a huge map of it XD this topic is very interesting ;) btw - my d chain drop is a small icon in my avatar, hawt huh?
February 23, 200719 yr Why double post? Anyway the wheel theroy seems the most logical. I wonder if it would affect your drops from the barrows though :-k I believe it only affects drops I'm not sure. My Blog To 87 Construction
February 23, 200719 yr So basically, to sum up: If you're at steel dragons, and you're getting a rare every 20 drops, you'll get a rare every 20 drops with or without the ROW. But without the ROW you might get 1 in every 10 rare drops being a dragon items, but with it on you'll get 2 out of 10 rares being a dragon items. (as the dragon items are worth more to the general store than say a half key) Numbers are made up of course, but is that roughly the idea? Iron dragon is 1/100 dragon platelegs/dragon skirt. 1/20 times 1/5 = 1/100 I think you're VERY onto something, my good friend =) If Irons were 1/100 then I'm in th .03 percentile of unlucky players there :-s . Never understood why someone made up those figures... To be honest, unless there's 1 million drops of data, I'm probably not going to listen to any Ring of Wealth "theories" (try random hypotheses). [if you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature.] Fullmetal Alchemist, you will be missed. A great ending to a great series.
February 23, 200719 yr Its made to make monsters drop more expensive stuff... u wont get herbs wearin that...
February 23, 200719 yr So basically, to sum up: If you're at steel dragons, and you're getting a rare every 20 drops, you'll get a rare every 20 drops with or without the ROW. But without the ROW you might get 1 in every 10 rare drops being a dragon items, but with it on you'll get 2 out of 10 rares being a dragon items. (as the dragon items are worth more to the general store than say a half key) Numbers are made up of course, but is that roughly the idea? Iron dragon is 1/100 dragon platelegs/dragon skirt. 1/20 times 1/5 = 1/100 I think you're VERY onto something, my good friend =) If Irons were 1/100 then I'm in th .03 percentile of unlucky players there :-s . Never understood why someone made up those figures... To be honest, unless there's 1 million drops of data, I'm probably not going to listen to any Ring of Wealth "theories" (try random hypotheses). Not really, you could miss a lot with a 1% chance of hitting. Why double post? I am sorry I hath offended thee, my lord. I will fetch thy blankets.
February 24, 200719 yr My lame and stupid theory is: Jagex has a "item" everyday and that "item" is the item that is eaiser to get with the Ring of Wealth... Its wrong but its what i used to think :XD: yep thats totally wrong that would mean Andrew woke up at thursday 'ah its a nice day for dragon chains drops' and everybody that day is getting dragon chains or on wednesdy: 'a good day for alot of guthan spears at barrows' and alot of people get spears this theory is like the worst i ever heard of all kind of things :ohnoes: :thumbsup: Apparently none of you can multiply correctly....300cats x 100deaths= 3,000deaths 3,000deaths=900,000gp^^WTF?^^
February 24, 200719 yr All i know is that my RoL helps more than RoW.... Fire giant drops in 2 hours of training with RoL: 3 rune scimmys, 1 rune 2h, 1 rune battleaxe. Fire giant drops in 2 hours of training with RoW: 1 rune scimmy, 1 rune kite. :-s I dunno, maybe i'm just unlucky... -.- *Note: Training times ARE approx., so i might be off by as much as 15 mins, but either way... There is no meaning or truth in life but that which we create for ourselves.
February 25, 200719 yr If iron dragons have 1/100 chance of dropping legs or skirt, does that mean 1/50 for each???
February 25, 200719 yr 'the ring of wealth' is the "conspiracy theory" for jagex no1 knows... 1593th to 99 Farming - July 08.
February 25, 200719 yr Well, whenever I use ring of wealth when killing men (don't ask why), I get a lot more herb drops than usual, and usually double the rannars...I wanna test out ring of charos, its supposed to have a hidden effect
February 26, 200719 yr Are you sure its a gold valued item? Jagex could have a list for each monster drop list with rare items, like, Clue Scrolls, Dragon Parts, or High Herbs, and the RoW increases the chance of getting one of these. Which is why you can have ring of wealth, and still get what seems to be unvalued stuff. 99 Crafting :: 39,750th || 99 Attack :: 1,775th
February 26, 200719 yr my option: RoW is crap, just cash waist i even think it gives bad luck xD yes i have tested....
February 26, 200719 yr from the rkb: "Chance of receiving rare drops from monsters is increased" jagex hasnt stated what is considered rare, or how much this improves the chances.
February 27, 200719 yr The ring of wealth provides a chance bonus of getting a higher priced item from a monster. You can't change it so it makes your luck better on a particular item. Jagex have some awkward opinions on "rare" Kiss me, i'm part Irish!
February 28, 200719 yr and on top of that al; there is NO way some pixel could now what drop you want :oops: a computer can't mind read you know :P I'll have to correct that. :shame: Check Google's new Mentalplex. This signature is intentionally left blank.
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