Strength

[Huta]

99 str + high atk = owns def.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From personal experience. :

[Theoknight2]

your all wrong...magic pwns all melee unfortunately, haven't figured that out yet myself.. :(

[BBC3]

in a duel/stake, high def and att owns str

 

 

 

if your in the wild, you need high str and att

[Guest sandhill5]

:wall:

 

 

 

Attack makes you hit more often.

 

 

 

Defense makes you get hit less often.

 

 

 

Strength lets you hit higher.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

These skills are all necessary for a good player. Training all of them is the best bet. A good balance of skills is what the ideal RS player needs. Why is this conversation even taking place?

[shadowbot]

Maybe if you get 99 att 99 str and 99 def then nobody will call you an anything noob.

[drgnslyer_15]

 

 

 

also, theirs a good chance in my theory/opinion some1 with a say "lower" str lvl such as drgnslyer since you have a lesser variety of hits to hit, you hit it more often then someone. which is common math, if i can hit say, 30 and u can hit 25, you will tend to hit more maxs but i might beable to hit harder more often.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I hit a lot of 25+ but i'm gettin greedy tho lol.. I want to hit 30+ so more than likely i'm goin to get 99 str which should help me out with slayer in the long run. For the most part i hit a lot of 25+

[kane531]

don't worry about it... pures get mad at me when they can't hit me too... i find it kinda funny because of how frustrated they get with their 60 attk and 90 somethin str... and can't make contact by the time i get my dds specials off and switch to my whip. it really makes my day to see a pure fall where he supposevedly should "pwn"

[kane531]

your all wrong...magic pwns all melee unfortunately, haven't figured that out yet myself.. :(

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

that really explains the 7 ancient staves i pked while meleeing...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the way i see it... runescape will always be

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hybrid>pure

[Aresgodowar]

well when your fighing in duel arena staking and you cant eat it would probly bee good to have def. my brothers making a tank that will have rune at lev 25..

[Rune_User]

I see a lot of people in the wild when I'm fighting other people calling me a defense noob and saying my strength is pants. Personally I like defense and dont' feel high strength is a nessesary thing. What does everyone think about strength and is high strength needed for a main?

 

 

 

You're a defence noob because pures can't hit on you and they have to come up with some kind of insult to justify themselves.

[BoD]

high def = longer fights

 

 

 

high def = getting hit less often

 

 

 

high def = low food intake

 

 

 

high def = ownage

[Sy_Accursed]

Jeeze people are over the top reacting to what I said.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm allowed my own opinion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Granted I may of over exaggerated the results of each stat being 99 first

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and I didn't point out I wasn't assuming the other 2 were not leveled up at all in that time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But from my personal experience, seeing dome ofl my friends train, those who have focused of strength first have been far better at melee combat and been able to get all 3 high faster.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fine if you disagree or whatever, but theres no need to go round calling people a moron or an idiot just because you disagree with them. That only shows immaturity and that you are un-able to produce a valid argument for your view.

[meili]

You said it was in wildy - if you don't pk and just mine rune/ rc/ green drag/whatever then high def is what you need since you only want to not die. Pking requires high str. :P :lol: No ifs no buts. You need those high hits to ko or they can just run away.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

High attack and def but not high str - you don't get hit, you hit few 0s but you don't hit high so the opponent can run away easily since you can't hit him faster than he can eat.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Duelling is kinda different since you don't need to ko your opponent. If you just outlast your opponent and use up all his food without using up your own food then you win. In that case def helps.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pkers use "def noob" as an insult because those who train high def are, by definition, not pkers. That's all, you don't have to get mad if you aren't a pker anyway.

[Jard_Y_Dooku]

Well all combat stats are useful but strength is the key to it all.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I mean for example which ever out of attack str and def you get to 99 first as a melee is hard.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you do attack first:

 

 

 

You get hit alot still as def low

 

 

 

You don;t hit much damage as str low

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Result high food in-take, slow fights, slow xp gain

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you do def first:

 

 

 

You don;t hit much damage as str low

 

 

 

You miss and hit 0 alot as att low

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Result: slow fights, slow xp, low food in-take

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you do str first:

 

 

 

You get hit alot as def low

 

 

 

You hit alot of 0 as att low

 

 

 

BUT you hit so hard when you do hit the monster dies fast therefore you do not give oppourtunity to get hit

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Result: low food in-take, fast xp, fast fights

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Training str high first gives major advantages over doing att or def first

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for your last explanation, the margin of how fast the monster dies compared to the other situations is not quite as large as you assume. Your stats must be balanced (e.g. equal attack, strength and defence) in order to victor easily in combat.

[jwrm22]

def only > you wont get hitted mutch, but you wont hit even less...

 

 

 

str only > youll get hitted mutch, and you can hit higher then normal but you will fail more

 

 

 

atk only > youll get hitted mutch, you cant hit high but youll hit more often..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i think the best is:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

70+ atk,

 

 

 

80+ str,

 

 

 

40- def

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

anyway... 70 def owns too, its hard to hit somene in full guthan... (ever tryed to defeat guthan in barrows without mage?)

[kingdomzero]

lets face it, high str helps you in the wilderness, giving you better chance to kill somebody by hitting high hits in row. while having high attack, you hit allmost allways, small hits and opponent runs after food running out.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

as training, attack helps more, simply casue you can use better weapon in it

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lols you got it exactly the wrong way around. high attack is what makes you hit a lot in a row, but you still need str to hit some good hits.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

for example, 40 attack 99 str is useless. unless your fighting someone with 1 def, in which case you will occasionally hit them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

99 att, 40 str is also rather useless, but you will still be hitting constant 10-12's, regardless of theyre def, unless its above 90 or so.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

with the exp from 99 str, you could get about 92 att and 90 str. that would be the best combination, hit 35's+ (super potted and pray) constantly, unless they have def 85+.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

atm im 81 att, 79 str, 45 def and 88 combat, and i own people who are 70-70-70, and also own people who are 60-90-1. reason being: neither of these builds have high att to hit high numbers often. even though the 60-90-1 can hit 35's with d scim, i still own them, hitting 31's with my whip, them hardly hitting me.

[Straw_Hat]

 

lets face it, high str helps you in the wilderness, giving you better chance to kill somebody by hitting high hits in row. while having high attack, you hit allmost allways, small hits and opponent runs after food running out.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

as training, attack helps more, simply casue you can use better weapon in it

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lols you got it exactly the wrong way around. high attack is what makes you hit a lot in a row, but you still need str to hit some good hits.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

for example, 40 attack 99 str is useless. unless your fighting someone with 1 def, in which case you will occasionally hit them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

99 att, 40 str is also rather useless, but you will still be hitting constant 10-12's, regardless of theyre def, unless its above 90 or so.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

with the exp from 99 str, you could get about 92 att and 90 str. that would be the best combination, hit 35's+ (super potted and pray) constantly, unless they have def 85+.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

atm im 81 att, 79 str, 45 def and 88 combat, and i own people who are 70-70-70, and also own people who are 60-90-1. reason being: neither of these builds have high att to hit high numbers often. even though the 60-90-1 can hit 35's with d scim, i still own them, hitting 31's with my whip, them hardly hitting me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

of course you can beat people 60-90-1 seeing that they are combat level 75'ish and you are 88 :roll:

 

 

 

nice job beating people lower leveled

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

pk'ing has always been str > att > def

 

 

 

dds staking and whip staking the same as pk'ing

 

 

 

boxing att > def > str

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

depends on what you do

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

unless you're a mage/range hybrid then pkers will always have str, att, then def

[deciever2]

I'm not a pker or a staker so i mainly fight monsters and I'm not worried about combat level. For me, I try to keep all my melee stats at the same level. But for pures str is probably more important than def

[baalboy5]

I want high def not for pking or staking but to live in the most unexpected situations!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If im aka and a event attacked I wold rely on def to save me just like high def to avoid those low lives rc pkers

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

agree?

[Guitarted7]

theres a debate in the debate forum on this 8-)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

defense>str after about 60cb

[Tbfgraphx14]

Yea, I'm 92 combat, and someone comes up to me and says

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"People your level don't wear barrows until about 98 combat"

 

 

 

"You should only have 60 def"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:shame: