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... Did anyone say anything to the contrary? I'm certain that nobody has disagreed with what you've just posted. What are you talking about, exactly?

Knights aren't exactly less clicking. As long as you're pickpocketing anything, it's gonna pretty much take up your full attention.

Trees, fruit trees, and herbs. Use supercompost and magic secateurs, unless the trees are worth paying the farmer to watch. (Some are, some aren't.) Rule of thumb: if the cost of the bribe is greater than 10% the cost of the seed, it's not worth bribing and you should just use supercompost.

Correction: armoured zombies, not zombie monkeys. A typo I assume. :P

1. The inferno adze is exactly equivalent to a rune pickaxe, except that it can never break. 2. The mining guild is fastest, particularly if you use a skills necklace and ring of dueling in lieu of running to the Falador bank. However, coal is not worth mining for the most part. 3. It would be more effective to set your workers to collect fish and flax, sell them, and buy coal with your profits. As for the blast furnace, I've never used it, so I can't really help you there.

Er, no. You click the same rocks over and over again. Not hard. No skill is hard to get 99 in; it's just a matter of grinding. Also, the number of people with skillcapes is not necessarily an indication of the skil's difficulty. Case in point: thieving. okay. ask any1 with 99 fm or is getting 99 fm y do they not attempt 99 mining if it isnt harder/more boring. theyll most likely say because its boring. but whats this? theyre making fires over and over again in egdeville/g.e. isnt that boring? if its the same level of boring-ness, then y not go for 99 mining too/instead. they dont because its more boring, requires more attention, and harder than fm ... I don't see your point. Why would they get 99 mining? And what does it have to do with firemaking? And what makes it so difficult to train mining? As I've said...you click the same rocks until you level up. It's not challenging.

I would hide in my house. And lock the door. Easy. Fight Caves would be my second choice. Pretty easy question, tbh. :-w

I'd recommend thieving; it's about as close as he'll get. 48 hours is not going to happen for any skill.

Nope. Sorry.

The Plain of Mud (that is, the cave by the Fishing Guild) and the Goblin Village are good places to kill goblins.

The #1 moneymaker in f2p is actually mining runite. Anyway, the way to make money from fletching is generally to buy unstrung yew longbows and bowstrings, and then string them. The money is actually pretty slow, but you get fast experience.

Fight Caves. Duh. Or to my house, with the door locked.

Go to W6 BA. You should have little trouble finding players who plan on skedaddling as soon as they get a torso, because they think it's worth the time to get a better item for training. I wouldn't be surprised if many players with torsos haven't played BA since they got theirs. Not everyone likes the minigame. Nobody says you shouldn't play Runescape for fun; however, it's arrogant to assume your ideas of fun are shared by everyone else. As I'm sure you agree, "fun" is a personal issue and is solely subjective. It cannot be debated. With that in mind, there's really little point in bringing it up, as it's not relevant to the topic at hand.

There's nothing wrong with it at all. Even NPCs do it. What do you think those price-checking people around the sides of the GE are shouting about?

haha yeah, massive "soul caliber 2" guuy, with a giant axe...(dharoks btw) insert pink miniskirt here :lol: Verac's is by far the best Barrow's bottom, so no, Dharok's is not a choice. I wouldn't call +3 prayer "by far." I'd say just by a regular amount. Dharok's is pretty much equivalent any time you're not praying.

They said no such thing, and here's the link to prove it.

Who said anything different? I think you're confused...here: QFT.

0.3% better xp over 500 hours sounds like what you get if you get a fighter torso. Haven't we established that that is NOT efficient? :-s Well anyway, have fun killing chickens and unicorns while I hit 45s on armoured zombies. I don't think you fully understand that people have different ideas of fun. :notalk:

Didn't say they looked different, I said they were designed to look decent unisex. (Just look at the guthan "skirt". That's not even remotely feminine.) The dragon skirt was not designed to be unisex, it was designed for female characters. It's a girly, feminine piece of armor, and calling it a "battle kilt" or whatever is just deluding yourself. If it had been designed to be worn exclusively on girls, then male characters wearing it would have a different design, a la Stylish Hat. Jagex has never said dragon plateskirts were designed to be worn exclusively by female characters. I'm calling you out on this one--cite your source.

Non sequitur. It doesn't cost more money to wear a skirt in real life, and you don't get the same defence bonuses from a skirt in real life either. Also, plateskirts are worn as armour, not casual clothing. If I came to school wearing a full suit of armor, I'd get a pretty different reaction than if I came dressed in a skirt and a blouse. "Dressing like a tran" became cool in RS when Barrows gear came out and people started wearing Verac's and Guthan's, and when the God Wars Dungeon came out and people started wearing Bandos and Armadyl. All of those armour sets have skirts in them and nobody thinks twice about it. Except those other sets you mentioned, barrows especially, (after all, they are the barrows brothers), were designed to look good on both genders. The dragon skirt was designed for and only really looks good on female players. (It wasn't even released until some female players requested them some time after metal dragons entered the game) Sure, you can say it's personal preference, but the vast majority of people must agree with me, because nobody thinks twice about a guthan's skirt but a dragon one racks up the comments, even though they're the same price. What are you talking about? Verac's and Guthan's look identical on both genders. So does Bandos Tassets. And dragon plateskirt too, for that matter. It's only the Armadyl that changes, and even then only really the helm. Are you seeing something I'm not? Because I'm seeing no difference. :?:

... Are you insinuating... a. that Barbarian Assault is universally fun for every player, ever, including the ones who have never played it before and are only interested in the rewards? b. that avoiding efficiency is more fun than embracing it? c. that math is meaningless? d. that I am a "Holier than thou" jackass who does not know how to have fun? Hey, guess what. I am offended. I don't see how you can say I have a "Holier than thou" attitude when you're the one projecting your ideas of fun onto others and ridiculing the activities that I enjoy. You can get 99 strength with a mithril warhammer on muggers and get 99 mining on blurite and catch wimpy birds to 99 hunter for all I care, but don't try to tell people that they should emulate your "more fun" methods. Here's something that may surprise you: "efficient" and "boring" are not synonyms. There is nothing inherently making it less fun to train firemaking on maples than to train firemaking on willows. I consider it much more entertaining to find the best method for training something before I spend my time training it. That research and thought is the only part of training most skills that requires any skill.

Er, no. You click the same rocks over and over again. Not hard. No skill is hard to get 99 in; it's just a matter of grinding. Also, the number of people with skillcapes is not necessarily an indication of the skil's difficulty. Case in point: thieving.

I agree with both sides of this particular point. Yes there are some rewards that are great and cannot be gotten other ways to compensate. However, ReapMe is correct still. Say a quests gives experience, yes its great, however, in the time it takes to do the quest, you could have gotten that experience and more. In most cases the experience rewards from quests are not enough to compensate. Quests are more often than not inefficient. I do quests because I like them, I don't care about the rewards. I find them fun and always do them without a guide. The same argument that compfreak847 is making can be applied to items such as the barrows gloves. Are you going to tell me that in the time it takes to get 175QP, have the necessary stats and complete the quest that it is worth using? Compare it to a Regeneration Bracelet. Lower in attack bonuses by on 4 (3 for magic), lower in defence bonuses by 6 (3 for magic), lower in strength by 5, and it costs less than 400k. Its ability to double regeneration of Hitpoints more than compensates for the small decrease in defence. It is almost the exact same argument as with the Torso. However this one provides experience bonuses and takes alot more time to get. In that time you could easily make all the experience you get from rewards and then a plethora of combat experience that trumps the "Barrows" Gloves unless you plan on doing combat for over a couple thousand hours. Quests give access to so much essential equipment and rewards other than barrows gloves. Please don't make me list all of them.

Uh...okay... What did I say there that was not true?

Not true. You get all sorts of other rewards besides barrows gloves from those other quests, some of which I would consider invaluable. Smoking Kills, Fairy Tale Part 2, Animal Magnetism, Defender of Varrock, and so on are worth the time on their own merits, whether or not they get you any closer to Barrows Gloves. Considering the totality of the rewards from all the quests you did to satisfy the requirement for RFD, people interested in being as efficient as possible would almost certainly be better off doing the quests. Not to mention you get lots of experience rewards from quests, where BA gives no experience, no money, and no rewards other than the torso.