Assume Nothing

Oh please, Slayer is NOT the most efficient way to earn MONEY, which is the point of this thread. Grinding Gwd or Green Dragons or Merchanting or the many other methods of earning money is far more efficient in the long term. Although - Since the op may consider 'fun' as a factor, Slayer might be an option.

Yeah I was about to post the same info, around 200 crims/1k bursts. Barrage however, is somewhere around 370-400 crims per 1k casts, that's without the mage potion bonus too.

Not a great slayer myself but with a barrows set and unicorn, I'm very sure you can easily tank Metal dragons without any food at all. With Kuradels Dungeon... you can just bank alot, that works too

Epic Copy Pasta (Great ideas, not mine) RSOF - ">>Prayer is Insulting<<" by Pshychoboy8 [hide=Warning: VERY LARGE AMOUNT OF TEXT DO NOT QUOTE THIS] His Emptiness has opened his unblinking eye! The shadows will consume us all! Complete the Temple of Senntisten for exclusive access to His prayerbook! BIZARRE BORON SWELL! This thread will remain active! Not because I'm dissatisfied - the key themes are still relevant! Welcome! ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ Welcome all to Prayer is Insulting! Key themes; More opportunities to show worship for other gods; Zamorak being the key focus on this thread. Fairer amounts of prayer content for each class - not just melee! Magic and Ranged bonuses? Runescape is, front and foremost, a roleplaying game. Therefore, players are permitted to assume the roles of their characters and the fictional word they're in! This includes lore, fictional myths and tales, and even theism. But since not all of you are roleplayers, and merely log on to ease bordem, I shall try to attend to both audiences in pitching my ideas! Roleplayers, I'd like to point out that I am NOT Zamorakian. Post 01 - Introductions Post 02 - Prayer is Insulting Post 03 - Zamorak's Prayers Post 05 - Saradomin's Prayers (new ones) Post 07 - Armour and Robes Post 08 - The Citadel Post 10 - Sanctum of Sollace Post 11 - Rewards Post 12 - FAQ Post 14 - Quotes from Guthix Post 15 - Accomodating Post 16 - Armadyl, Bandos, etc. The supporter's list can be located on page 129! *´¨) ¸.°´¸.°*´¨) ¸.°*¨) (¸.°´ (¸.°´°.¸¸.°´¯`°._.° NEWS! 19-Nov-2009 - I updated the supporters list, OVER 1000! 20-Oct-2009 - Some of the rewards from the Sanctum of Sollace received an update. 05-Sep-2009 - First update in a while, the Summoning aspect was greatly changed! 04-Mar-2009 - We received our 4th J'Mod support! * 04-Dec-2008 - Our third golden post, woooaaahhhhhh! 03-Sep-2008 - This thread became Thread of the Week! Got glue? 27-Aug-2008 - A wild gold post appeared, thanks for the support Mod Poppy! ~ * ~ * An Official TST Thread * ~ * ~ Quick find code: 90-91-140-59076761 Prayer is Insulting! ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ Prayer, as summarised by the Manual, "Call upon the gods of RuneScape with prayers". Roleplayers! ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ The Holy Symbol taunts us, silently celebrating its domination of RuneScape! Selecting the prayer panel, browsing the skill guide or admiring that wonderful cape, it's there! Laughing at us! It's insulting! Lore states that a god draws its power from its followers (Guthix being the known exception); but, if only Saradomin is being fuelled, how can any other hope to gain enough power to return?! You can disagree... claim allegiance the God of Chaos, Balance, or one of the ancient deities... but you're not! It all goes to Saradomin. Whilst it might be frustrating - now you've realised it's happening, anyway - it makes sense! Our adventure begins among Saradomists; why'd they teach us otherwise? But... that doesn't mean a kind-hearted, generous Zamorakian missionary cannot convert us! Okay, scratch the kind-hearted-generous bit... Gamers! ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ Basically, a new prayerbook aligned to Zamorak. This will not only provide a bounty of new prayers to choose from, but an alternate guild, cape of accomplishment, and even skill icon. The idea is based on the notion that the Holy Symbol is Saradomin's, thus where are all the rest? (¸.*'¨) Zamorak's Prayerbook is not a members' only prayerbook. However, to change between prayerbooks is. To switch prayerbooks; pray at the Chaos Altar (in the Citadel) to activate Zamorak's Prayers (requires 31 Prayer), and pray at the Holy Altar (in the Monastery) to activate Saradomin's Prayers. When in the mindset of Zamorak's Prayerbook, the skill-icon would change to the Unholy Symbol, haha... now who's cackling at you?! Guthix does not want, nor require worship. Both not wanting and not requiring means it's very likely Guthix has a prayerbook, as a prayer is effectively a bribe for worship. Please see post 14 for why! Prayers of Zamorak! ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ Note: Zamorak's prayers affect all who attack you, but the effects are private between you and them. Please see the FAQ for more information. Lvl 14 Piercing Presence (decreases foes' Defence by 12%) Lvl 17 Draining Force (decreases foes' Agility by 12%) Lvl 19 Curse of Frailty (decreases foes' Strength by 12%) Lvl 22 Impaired Reflexes (decreases foes' Attack by 12%) Lvl 24 Strain of Sight (decreases foes' Range by 12%) Lvl 27 Lack of Will (decreases foes' Magic by 12%) Lvl 29 Cripple Spirit (decreases foes' Summoning by 30%) Lvl 38 Penetrating Presence (decreases foes' Defence by 18%) Lvl 41 Immobilising Force (decreases foes' Agility by 18%) Lvl 43 Curse of Impotence (decreases foes Strength by 18%) Lvl 46 Disorienting Aura (decreases foes' Attack by 18%) Lvl 48 Blinding Mist (decreases foes' Range by 18%) Lvl 51 Fallibility of Mind (decreases foes' Magic by 18%) Lvl 53 Break Spirit (decreases foes' Summoning by 45%) ^ Basic prayers! Agility? Information below. Lvl 32 Banished (protects the players from armour-effects) Lvl 34 Deterioration (whilst below 30% Hitpoints, 50-75% of damage received is recoiled) * Lvl 37 Second Degree (negates 30% of dragonfire and other burn-inflicting damage) ^ 65% effective against NPCs, 35% effective against players. Lvl 56 Nightmare Shroud (a swarm shrouds the player, absorbing 40% of afflictions) Lvl 58 Greed (protects two additional items from death, or 1500 items in a single stack) Lvl 61 Sacred Ground (50% of all required prayer points are drained from your foe) poison, etc. Doesn't cure! Lvl 73 Abuse (your attacks ignore half your foes defensive stats) * Lvl 76 Beyond the Grave (upon death, 35% of the player's max hitpoints are dealt to nearby foes) * Lvl 78 Tarnish Memory (50% of damage received is piled on the player's combat stats, excludes Hitpoints, Summoning and Prayer; cannot exceed an increase of 25%) ^ Three over-headers. Lvl 52 Weakness of Summoning (weakens your foes' Summoning skill - ie. negates specials) Lvl 55 Weakness of Magic (weakens your foes' Magic skill - ie. negates attacks) Lvl 57 Weakness of Range (weakens your foes' Range skill - ie. negates attacks) Lvl 60 Weakness of Melee (weakens your foes' Melee skills - ie. negates attacks) ^ 100% effective against NPCs, 50% effective against players. All over-head. From the foe's perspective, for example; "You find yourself weakened, your magic is impaired". Denying the attack is no different than negating the damage (Protection prayers). Fistandantilus and Zamorak Sliver now use Weakness prayers. Lvl 64 Vulnerability to Melee (negates the effect of Protect from/Weakness of Melee) Lvl 67 Vulnerability to Magic (negates the effect of Protect from/Weakness of Magic) Lvl 69 Vulnerability to Missiles (negates the effect of Protect from/Weakness of Range) * Lvl 72 Vulnerability to Summoning (negates the effect of Protect from/Weakness of Summoning) ^ 50% effective against NPCs, 100% effective against players. All over-head. For example, from the foe's perspective; "Forces have left you vulnerable, your melee-advantage is broken". * Lvl 80 Inflicted Profanity (decreases foes' Defence by 20%, Strength by 18% & Attack by 15%) Lvl 83 Inflicted Anxiety (decreases foes' Defence by 20% and Range by 17%) Lvl 85 Inflicted Unholiness (decreases foes' Defence by 20% and Magic by 17%) Lvl 88 Inflicted Corruption (decreases foes' familiar's combat stats by 55%) * Lvl 89 Inflicted Cowardice (decreases foes' Defence by 25%, Strength by 23% & Attack by 21%) * Lvl 92 Inflicted Irresolution (decreases foes' Defence by 25% and Range by 22%) * Lvl 94 Inflicted Anarchy (decreases foes' Defence by 25% and Magic by 22%) * Lvl 96 Inflicted Indolence (decreases foes' familiar's combat stats by 70%) ^ Zamorak's sin-prayers. Possibly awarded by the Sanctum of Solace A Small Note... ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ Whilst on the subject of Prayers, let's finish off the Saradomin Prayerbook; add a few and alter some others...! Lvl 03 Quick Thrust (increases a players Agility by 5%) * Lvl 12 Swift Thrust (increases a players Agility by 10%) Lvl 30 Agile Thrust (increases a players Agility by 15%) ^ Agility-based prayers! Why? See the next post for a short introduction to Agility's influence on combat. They would obviously not be included without the agility idea. Lvl 12 Refined Spirit (increases your familiar's combat efficiency by 25%) * Lvl 21 Enriched Spirit (increases your familiar's combat efficiency by 40%) Lvl 39 Honed Spirit (increases your familiar's combat efficiency by 55%) ^ Some Summoning-based prayers, to increase the power of your friendly, or not-so-friendly, familiars. The percentages are intentionally higher due to familiars being relatively weak until high-levelled - and that protect from Summoning is so low-levelled and can be dual-activated with other protect prayers. Lvl 61 Sanctity (increases a players Defence by 20% and Range by 17%) Lvl 63 Serenity (increases a players Defence by 20% and Magic by 17%) Lvl 68 Fidelity (increases a familiar's combat stats by 70%) Lvl 72 Tenacity (increases a players Defence by 25% and Range by 22%) * Lvl 74 Divinity (increases a players Defence by 25% and Magic by 22%) * Lvl 80 Diligence (increases a familiar's combat stats by 85%) ^ King's Ransom gave melee two "virtue" prayers and, great as they are, other combat-styles were neglected! After a quest, or minigame, the above can be awarded for those of us who aren't warriors; summoning-virtues are debatable. Save the Triangle! Lvl 08 Sharp Eye Lvl 09 Mystic Will Lvl 17 Hawk Eye Lvl 18 Mystic Lore Lvl 35 Eagle Eye Lvl 36 Mystic Might ^ Generally lower as a result, the above have been altered to better suit the trend of existing prayers. Lvl 19 Rapid Restoration (2x restore rate for all skills excluding hitpoints) Lvl 56 Accelerated Restoration (4x restore rate for all skills excluding hitpoints) ^ Something for the high levels (these won't stack with each other). Remember, Prayer and Summoning doesn't restore, so double nothing is still nothing. Lvl 22 Rapid Healing (2x restore rate for Hitpoints) Lvl 62 Accelerated Healing (4x restore rate for Hitpoints) ^ Another high levelled prayer. Lvl 25 Shield Inventory (protects an additional item from death, or 500 items in a single stack) Lvl 68 Protect Inventory (protects two additional items from death, or 2000 items in a single stack) ^ For the archers and magicians among us the stack-protection should be implemented, whether the second prayer is. Which stack is based on it's net-worth; 1000 Death Runes is worth more than a Dragon Dagger. Note that, in my opinion, the above prayers should affiliate with the Grand Exchange price of an item, not the High Alchemy Price. "Greed" uses the same system. Agility? ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ It will have its own thread soon, but basically Agility would gain a combat element. "Counterstrike" is the combined term for the updated Defence skill, and new combat-Agility. Defence would be the player's resilience to damage, and Agility would be their ability to evade - as it always should've been. Basically, counterattacks are combat randoms (though they aren't actually random, level does influence them) which either negate, reduce or reverse damage. Counterstrike Prayers (Saradomin); Lvl 46 Protect from Counterstrike (protects the player from counterattack damage) Counterstrike Prayers (Zamorak); Lvl 61 Weakness of Counterstrike (prevents your foes' usage of counterattacks) Lvl 63 Vulnerability to Counterstrike (negates the effect of Protection from/Weakness of C'strike) The Kinshra Knights! ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ But the skill isn't our only problem..! For high prayer bonuses we are forced to align ourselves to Saradomin, via the Temple Knights! Asgarnia is at war, the Temple Knights verses the Kinshra, or less specifically, the White verses the Black Knights. So why not place within the Citadel a Black Knight armoury, which sells Black armour to faithful Zamorakians with the same system that the White Knights have... kill 100 White Knights to obtain the Novice Rank and so on. But Black Armour doesn't offer more than +1 Prayer per item, like White. So we need some of the higher ranks! So Lord Daquarius stationed his "ambassador", Miss Cashien, and a handful of Noble Guard within the Citadel. Miss Chasien, happy to see fellow renegades, will sell players Novitiate Armour (permitted they have completed Wanted!). Novitiate shares Initiate's bonus stats, and has a burnt orange trim. The Noble Guard wear a currently unobtainable, Neophyte ranked armour. (future quest?) Kinshra Ranks; Novitiate, Burnt orange trim/plume Neophyte, Maroon trim/plume Advocate, Fern green trim/plume Necrolyte, Navy blue trim/plume At present, Lord Daquarius' personal bodyguard would be the only Advocate-Kinshra, whilst Lord Daquarius wears Necrolyte; a navy blue trimmed "Elite Black" armour. The Temple Knight's Partisan-rank would be a white version of "Elite". As with White and Temple Knights, there are differences between standard Black Knight, and the Kinshra; plume colour, etc. "Elite" is grade-2 Black Knight, unrelated to Kinshra armour. And again, Magicians and Archers are left out, so Initiate, Proselyte and Novitiate (as well as all future ranks) would come in Robes and Leather; with each rank being worth the same prayer bonus no matter the material. Robes and Leather could both have female-gender variants; (short) robeskirts and leatherskirts. The Citadel! ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ Structure: The Citadel Status: Prayer Guild Location: In the wilderness due-north of the Monastery. Wilderness: No. * Appearance: Lumbridge Castle grounds in size, Tudor-style structure, huge elvan front-gates. Synopsis: Hidden behind a peripheral charm, appears barren and ruined from outside the gates. Access: To remove the jynx on the grounds the Prayers of Zamorak must be active. (31 Prayer) Similar to the Draeman Staff's effect on the shed (entrance to Zarnis), the Prayers of Zamorak act as the key to entering the Citadel. From outside the battlements the fortress appears deserted and in ruin, in fact, it looks the same inside unless you have the Prayers of Zamorak active. To activate the prayers there is an altar, cracked and crumbled, but clearly Zamorakian, in the centre of the barren structure. Praying upon the altar requires a minimum of 31 Prayer; praying upon the altar with less will result in your prayer points being drained and nothing happening. Changing books has a visual impact on the skill, as well as a different collection of prayers... the statistic icon of Saradomin's emblem will become the emblem of Zarmoak. To change back to the Prayers of Saradomin, worship at the altar in the Monastery. Courtyard; In the courtyard the fountains flow blood, the trees tainted and the guards dead. In English? The magnificent fountains spill blood, the ancient trees fight back and the guards are the animated dead. This next snippet of information doesn't fit in anywhere, but any bones buried on the premises will yield double experience (the monastery could offer a similar effect). All combat-able characters within the Citadel do not yield bones (as a drop), but instead provide immediate prayer experience for laying their tortured souls to rest. (about the same experience as you get in hitpoints) Ground Floor (US: First Floor); On the ground floor will be the usual hustle and bustle you'd expect of a marketplace; npcs roaming the stores in search of wares. Stalls include; a General Store, an Apothecary, the Black Knight Armourer (see post 2), which includes range and magic equipment. Let's not forget the Chaos Altar, or, Altar of Zamorak; which will be a lot grander in its non-ruined state. The colour scheme is generally stone, blood red and black. First Floor (US: Second Floor); Up the spiral stair cases you will a buzzing conference room, a nice location for Jagex to drop small hints into future RuneScape lore. The residents are fuming with arguments and discussions, and even battle plans (similar to HAM head quarters). Upon the walls are paintings of victory, tomes listing stories and historical event (if a little biased) and a portrait of the lord himself. Rooftop; The rooftop is an excellent location for sight-seeing, with orb-o-scopes for scrying into the surrounding areas. Players can even make use of the magi-cannons constructed in the past age (when rune stocks were low) to catapult the Zamorakian forces over long distances. Locations include; Port Sarim, Paterdomus, Camelot, West Ardougne and the Scorpius Shrine. Atop the roof houses a demon (black), chained to the spire like a pet. His movement is limited, so he makes for good training. Additional Info; Praying at Zamorak's Altar whilst in the mind of his Prayers will gain an additional two prayer points. When you first enter the dungeon (below) a cutscene will begin, illustrating a Zamoakian being dragged by an ominous tendril; from the marketplace and through the trapdoor. Should you discover the mangled, already-decomposed priest you can pinch his robes for your own usage (similar to the Zamorakian robes worn in Paterdomus). They respawn, of course, and offer the same stats as Monk's Robes. The Dungeon! ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ Name: Sanctum of Solace Size: Approximately the size of the God Wars Dungeon. Location: Beneath the Citadel, there is a trapdoor on the ground floor. Other Entrances: The godshield ripped a tunnel to the Monastery, so that Saradomists may enter. Multi-combat: Mostly, though the shield is surrounded by a single-combat zone. Appearance: Similar to the Fists of Guthix, only more ravaged by battle and burning. Synopsis: In fear the Godshield buried itself, calling upon the dead to protect it. Foes: Notably similar to the God Wars Dungeon; Icyene, Avianese, etc. Safe: No. A few years ago the ZMI discovered an item potentially capable of breaking the Edicts of Guthix. The Godshield; incarnated by Guthix, to symbolise the end of great war, a personified unison between peace and violence. But the shield established emotions, a personality if you will, but it's emotions were vastly limited to fear, and anger. When Zamorakian priests found the shield it was dormant. It was brought to the Citadel to be examined, but it retaliated. Erupting into flame upon being touched, the shield was eventually cast into the wine-cellar. Within it grew angry and began to feud, ripping the cellar apart until it was mere cavern. But like the human race, greedy for space, it expanded, ravaging with angry tendrils until the cavern became so large the Zamorakians could build structures - but they burned. The shield tired, and fearing an ambush, it created an army - legions of dead (formerly-buried). Though thousands of battle-raised souls, who knew nothing but battle, spawned a war, but for no purpose - none knew of the godshields power and none wanted it. Resurrecting such warriors, however, brought treasures to the dungeon. The carcass of the fabled Strongbow (for example) was found, and can be purchased for a great sum of money within the guild, but it's limps are not so easily recovered. Rewards! ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ Some of rare loot, others come as standard. Strongbow Limps can be obtained by defeating the many foes of the dungeon. Two matching limps can be combined with the Strongbow carcass to create an aligned strongbow (requires 75 fletching). Like the Crystal Bow, it has charges (5000). It can be repaired. The arrows conjured have a chance-effect; Armadyl Strongbow; Damage inflicted also damages the foe's energy (50%) & prayer (25%). Bandos Strongbow; Damage is inflicted as if the foe had half the defencive bonuses. Saradomin Strongbow; Damage inflicted regenerates prayer points. Zamorak Strongbow; Damage inflicted also damages the foe's combat skills. Attacking the shield will causes it to summon one (of a handful) might manifests to slay the foolish adventurer. There's a minute chance you could receive a fragment of the shield, the Guthix Umbo. The umbo can be attached to either the Godsword or Strongbow. It's unstable, though, and will break after 5000 attacks. Callous Strike; Hits through the opponents defence, minimum of 10 damage. Degenerative effect; The attack-speed will slowly decrease (from 6). The Guthix Umbo, and the Saradomin and Zamorak hilts, can be attached onto their respective staffs to create (lesser) Godstaffs. Each has an effect and the ability to cast one of three new spells (as well as the old ones); Guthix Godstaff; If faster, your opponents attack speed is halved. Saradomin Godstaff; Immunises the player from binding spells. Zamorak Godstaff; Immunises the player from poison. New spells are dropped (as scrolls) within the dungeon. Sell them or "use" them to learn them; Natures Wrath; Chance of poisoning/infecting the foe. Righteous Thunder; Chance of stunning the foe for 10 seconds. Scorching Flames; Chance of burning the foe for low amounts. ^ Maximum of 30 damage, 45 with charge. Frequently Asked Questions! ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ Q: How would the effects of Zamorak's prayers work in multi-combat? A: Zamorak's prayers, Curse of Frailty for example, only affect the foes you're in combat with; the same with all of Zamorak's prayers. However, the effects are private between you and those affected. Scenario; player A is using Curse of Frailty against player B. Should a third party, player C, attack player B, they will fight as normal, no lowered strength! However, if player C attacks player A, their strength will be lowered too. Q: Woah! Stopping combatants from using their combat skills is way overpowered! A: Not technically a question, but it's not; negating the attack is no different to negating the damage! If my foe is using magic, "Protect from Magic" and "Weakness in Magic" are near identical. Q: How could your dungeon reward them? A: Like the new god-spells, as mentioned, the prayers could be dropped as a scroll (somewhat less rare than things such as the Umbo). The scrolls would be untradable, however, and to learn the prayer simply "use" it. Q: What about Bandos and Armadyl, shouldn't they have strongbows? A: There is the potential, but I didn't see it necessary to include them in what is a considerably easier God Wars Dungeon... possibly the limps could be dropped in the GWD, but ultimately it's up to Jagex. Q: What about the Prayers of Guthix? A: As for Guthix, it does not want nor require prayers... thus it has none for a player to tap. Although, I do like the concept of group-aiding prayers (like Lunar)... the medics of combat! Unlike Lunar, you'd have to be exempt from the effects... just a little draw back. Q: What about Bandos or Armadyl prayers? A: Whilst Bandos and Armadyl have prayers, they have no followers willing to share them with us. Please see posts 14 and 15. Q: Zamorak already has Robes, would the new ones be the same? A: They could be the same, but they should be different. Possibly rename the existing robes as "Chaos Druid Robes", or term the new ones "Chaos Robes" or "Chaos Monk Robes". Q: Why does Zamorak have more prayers than Saradomin? A: He doesn't! In total Zamorak has only 41 prayers, whilst Saradomin has 43. If Saradomin doesn't receive, for example, their range-virtue prayers, Sanctity and Tenacity, Zamorak would obviously not receive their range-sins. Q: What about the lighthouse books? A: They aren't a requirement and are in no way related to the Saradomin and Zamorak prayerbooks. However, certain items could offer bonuses such as additional prayer-points when you combine them with the prayerbook of the same good. Possible additional points; a complete lighthouse book (+1), a Mage Arena Cape and matching Staff (+1), a full set of Treasure Trail Prayer Robes (+2), the Godsword (+2), and the God Weapons (+2). Players can now obtain 105/99 if they combine the above with the Nature/Chaos/Holy altar. Other effects could also be added, such as a complete lighthouse-book unlocking a high-levelled God Prayer. Q: Would the prayerbooks turn off aggression in the GWD? A: Yes, the Saradomin forces won't attack you if you have his prayerbook - the same with Zamorak's. Though the Guthix portal isn't effected, taking rival prayerbooks into the Zamorak or Saradomin portals at Castle Wars will trigger a transformation. Q: Does this affect what altars I can pray at? A: No. All altars, aside from the Chaos, Nature and Holy Altars, only renew your connection to the Gods' Realm - others aren't pious enough to distinguish between different prayerbooks. Guthix Spoke! ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ Guthix stated that Guthix does not want, nor does Guthix require worship. Worship is how the weaker gods gain power, Guthix does no require it as Guthix's power is drawn from the planet. It's Guthix's choice not to want worship. For proof, read the God Letters. "I hath no symbol of mine own, for acceptance of my beliefs is not a choice of itself; it is rather a rejection of the choices forced upon thee by mine brethren. To follow in the balance is to dismiss the notion that thou must be aligned either one way or the other, or that thou must only take one path in thy life and stray no further." "In the past certain of my followers have created their own symbols to honour me, for although it seems improper to possess such a symbol in mine own eyes, I dictate not to mine followers how best to proceed other than to guide them in the ways of balance." To Guthix, I am still searching for the right god for me and I was wondering... Do we get anything special for worshiping you guys? Like a stregnth bonus or maybe we can get things for cheaper at stores or something like that. From which Guthix replied, "I canst speak not for other deities of this land, but from me thou recieve only the self satisfaction that thy cause is true, and that balance will be served by thine decision." "It is not in my nature to reward those who follow me, for those who follow me do so for their desire to see balance, and balance is its own reward for those chosen few." "Mine power is based upon the movements of the planets, the balance of life and death and the wisdom of nature. I hath no need for followers, yet appreciate those who search for truth in mine actions." Burn? ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ Burn is a new affliction that can be inflicted by most fire-based creatures, especially the Dragon. The burn splash is vibrant orange, and causes twice the damage of poison for the same grade. Fire-spells could possibly inflict burn, but definitely arrows! Anti-Burn (52 Herblore) Kwuarm Crushed Blue Dragon Scales Super Anti-Burn (69 Herblore) Lantadyme Crushed Black Dragon Scales Prayer Cape of Accomplishment? ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ Obviously, if the skill-icon changes then so would the cape! It would become the first cape available from two NPCs, but they will only sell with you permitted you are aligned to their God; Brother Jered of the monastery and a Zamorakian Priest (to be named) of the Citadel. Saradomin's Cape of Accomplishment; Appearance: Pearly white, Holy Symbol Animation: Angelic-wings erupt from the player and they ascend a pearly light. Zamorak's Cape of Accomplishment; Appearance: Dirty white, blood-stained (torn at the base), Unholy Symbol Animation: Demon-wings tear from the player's back and they ascend above an eruption of fire. If Guthix received its own prayerbook the emote and cape would be altered appropriately. Smaller changes to accommodate; The Combat Brace would teleport you to your appropriate Prayer Guild. As would any other non-Saradomin teleports to the Prayer Guild. The Ancient Magicks Spellbook would be updated with a Citadel Teleport (under an ancient name of course, it was Zarosian at some point in history knowing the wilderness' background). Other-Godly Prayers! ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ Imagine... all the gods are screaming in your head, they all want you to worship them because worship is what makes them strong. You make the decision to worship one, and you pick out their voice. Zaros' voice is NOT silent! He can be heard and you learn it during the Temple at Senntisten. Guthix, on the other hand, isn't shouting (so it's not there to pick out) - either Guthix hasn't got a voice, it's too powerful for us to hear (hence why only the chosen, like Juna, can hear him), or it's there and he has hidden it). We are raised Saradomist, we know his voice. However, we cannot distinguish between the other screams. This is why I had a prayer requirement for Zamorak, in terms of lore, you could argue that it's required for you to begin distinguishing different voices. Zamorak is the second most powerful god, out of those we can hear, thus his is the easiest to pick out (it's louder). But we must be taught over prayers... you can't read what something sounds like. As for prayers themselves, they are bribes. To put it frank. People who worship Guthix do it voluntarily, because Guthix won't reward you. However, the other gods need your worship and try to win you over with effects. Of course, as with players being Saradomist at birth, most species choose a god - humans are Saradomin, with a few who have chosen otherwise; goblins are Bandos, with some who have chosen not to. With non-humans, I can't think of any examples where they've converted to another god from their own... all the ones I can think of are from one-to-nothing, or nothing-to-one (gnomes, dwarves, etc) - Guthix hasn't got a voice, so the Red Dwarves are nothing-to-one, Dorgeshuun is Bandos-to-nothing. Basically, to learn Bandos' voice you'd go to the goblins. However, only those who teach prayer (like priests, monks, etc) can teach you. Unfortunately, the only goblins we are friendly with don't worship him; and those that do, wouldn't tell a human! So Bandos will have to wait until we establish friendship with other goblins. Armadyl's followers are too busy; Seren's are too secretive. Marimbo is the only real candidate (at the moment). Before Monkey Madness, we don't understand monkey... so even if we could hear Marimbo we don't know what he's saying. However, with the M'speak Amulet, Marimbo's Prayerbook would be quick and easy to release! The Desert Pantheon, however, are not true gods - Amascut and Icthlarin both deny the Edicts. However, this doesn't mean they don't still hold the power the stories say - the mahjarrat are near-godlike. What I'm trying to say, they don't need worship. ...but they may still reward it! So a "Tatty Prayerbook" could be possible! A collection of prayers scrawled on papyrus (pages unlocked separately? Quests, treasure trails, etc?). The reason why this works, whilst paper wouldn't suffice for other gods * that's no "ancient scrolls" detailing lost prayers is that these prayers are more like spells, or blessings. One example, as suggested by my friend Darth Void0; Name: Afterlife God: Icthlarin Effect: The Death-Timer is paused while the prayer is active. The tatty prayerbook should be exempt from the death-list, but not be lost on death. An effect like the above would only work if you have it on you and it's one of the three most valuable items you own... which is unreasonable. But keeping it in the bank so you can rush to use Afterlife is a waste! The tatty prayerbook would be held in the off-hand, so potentially powerful effects could be had (as you can't combo with two-handers), and there would be a tab in the prayer panel. [/hide] Anyways, my last post didnt seem to have any responses so I figured it would be better to paste them in a hide tag, I think it's a bit big though, I'm not sure if mods will delete this post :(.

Lol, with 80 stats I recommend either Snakes in Mos Le'Harmless or Cannoning Green Dragons. I'm not sure if ranged levels matter *that* much but when I went, I was earning 900k/h with relative ease. That's with a tortoise and 5 monkfish, running around picking up drops. Snakes in Mos Le'Harmless are also pretty good, I used to do them as level 110 myself but it's become too... known and well, hard to find a world to take both spawns, which comprimises profits, plus excessively boring. I also suggest instead of earning money first, try raising some combat levels in a efficient manner. Green dragons with near max stats I have is easily 1.3m/h in void at Chaos Tunnels, so do consider raising combat skills. Personally, I used to get around 200 hides per hour at snakes, which equates to around 600k/h? Kinda shabby but might be the best you can get with your stats. I still prefer cannoning Green Dragons though, with Dbones at a all time high, it's VERY profitable.

The thing is, RuneScape skills cover most things you can do in real life, excluding terrorist activities and drugs (well, depends how you look at herblore). Sailing ISNT covered, could work as a skill, too bad it's considered an old tasteless joke nowadays. I think it would be a good idea to combine theiving fishing agility combat and perhaps smithing into Sailing. Theiving for piracy (already mentioned), Fishing for deep sea fish (already mentioned), agility for tackling obstacles on the ship itself?, combat with warships, smithing with the amount of things that need to be made such as a special cannon of human make. Meh, too late to write a proper post but that's just my thoughts

Banned for no reason. Hi.

Heh, at 8pm it started to snow heavily, 3 inches of snow but that's NOT a common sight where I live, no idea why. Had some fun with epic snowballs around the size of basketballs, wasn't good to throw long distances but epic shortrange weapons :). Kinda like chinchompas, multitarget short ranged weapons that are not too deadly. >.> Got College tommorow but I think it'll be too snowy to go, meh we'll see

Wasn't it more like staring at a guy in skinny jeans thinking it was a girl? OMG EFF YOU!!!!! anyway lol, ya it was a guy in skinny jeans and with long blond hairs and he was walking like a girl. wtf was I supposed to do lol. and the story is: I was waiting outside between two classes in college (my college is in a office building in downtown Montreal so we see lots and lots of girls) and I saw this person, which I, at the time, thought was a girl. "she" was wearing skinny jeans, had long blonde hairs, but I never saw "her" face. "She" was paying the parking and when "she" walked by my firends and I, I saw that "she" was in fact a kinda emo guy (piercing on the lips, eye shadow, tight pants, etc...) I was speechless and the expression on my face looked like I just saw the end of the world, or like if I've just watched Twilight. My friends were like: "Dude, what's wrong" And I replied with the now famous line: "I....just stared at that guy's wagon thinking he was a girl...and I thought he had a nice one..." fml :wall: Simply epic. :)

Wasn't it more like staring at a guy in skinny jeans thinking it was a girl? Hmmm, I think so, not too sure. Should've screenied. Let's ask pope after I get home from College :)

Gah wish I screenied it. I asked Pope Skills in the hyt chat what his 'Best irl fml moment was' and his reply was something along the lines of: "Hmm.. probably the time I was staring at some guy's [wagon] and thinking it was a girl. I was like 'Hey that's a nice [wagon]'" Made me and the chat lol for a bit :). EDIT - Fail censor, replace [wagon] with rear.

Apparently having rich friends mean that you can have free ls 95 summon :o.

FTFL WHY DOESNT SOUTHERN ENGLAND GET LOADS OF SNOW >:(. Rage I had 3 hours sleep and feel like dying. Oh well gonna have epic sleeps and wake up in the evenings I guess. Just like everyone else, my internal clock is out, never been fixed for a longggggggggggg time.

Stat trackers are usually inaccurate with the display name change function, don't rely on them.

I dont trust you enough to send the source but heres proof We don;t trust you since you are A. New here, B. low post count C. posting links to a modified runescape applet which may or may not be legal to use to play on and D. you won't prove its safe. [/hide] :D I don't see why you are smiling? Perhaps I said something humorous? He be trolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllin u c

Yay mods being slow

Lol, I still see no advantage it would have over SwiftKit except for the fact it's potentially a malicious program.

Mind uploading it on a more trustworthy, free texthosting site?

Lol if your client is good, you won't need to advertise.

For about a week I attempted to make myself be able to lucid dream. My dreams got more vivid, but I never got to being able to control them. I just gave up. A random did you know: Telling yourself that you'll get a lucid dream somehow helps. http://www.lucidity.com/LucidDreamingFAQ2.html#recall [hide=Oh and some more]1. Keep a Dream Journal As soon as you wake up from a dream, write down every little thing you can remember about it. Supposedly by writing it down, your brain recognizes certain patterns that only occur in a dream (since most dreams are immediately forgotten) and if they are on paper, you can recall them easily. 2. Think about exactly what you want to dream right before you fall asleep. Makes sense. For instance you've probably fallen asleep watching MythBusters before and immediately dreamed you were flying through the air, using a giant version of Jamie's mustache as a hang glider. 3. The best time to have a lucid dream is either right before you regularly wake up, or right after. Studies have shown that more people have lucid dreams when they take a nap shortly after they first wake up in the morning. So you can do all that, or if you are the lazy type, get yourself something like the NovaDreamer, a device that detects when you've entered REM sleep and then makes a noise that's supposed to be not quite enough to wake you up, but enough to raise your awareness to, "Hey, this is totally a dream I'm having!" levels. How Does It Work? Obviously the big difference between a dream and real life is that if the Hamburglar came bursting out of your refrigerator right now and started screaming at you in Vietnamese, your first thought would be "This is a strange and unusual event that is occurring right now, and I should question my perceptions." If the same thing happens in a dream, you just go with it. In a dream state, your mind mostly loses the ability to criticize anything that's happening because dreaming just doesn't involve the critical part of your brain. You're all worried that you're at work in your underwear, and don't even blink at the fact that your boss is a dragon who speaks in the voice of your old middle school gym coach. But if you change your mental state ever so slightly, that critical part of your brain can keep functioning even while in dreamland. [/hide] ... Anyways, today I've pretty much been in all day watching youtube, boring life out of College/Highschool :(.

Hmm, been reading about lucid dreams lately, and getting some weird ones >.> really don't know what to post so i'll post this

L0l nice str :) gratz tho nub

Gratz nub.

Wow, brings back inspiration for my old goal of 100k Greens... Except... with a cannon... >.>

The beaten dead horse topic arises again. The level of bias in this thread is amusing. I agree that advertising the fact that there is 24 diverse skills and 150+ quests in the f2p aspect is wrong, because there isn't. However, fact remain fact; F2p RuneScape is actually free. Jagex tells the truth, just not the whole truth.