muggiwhplar

I'd rather have them make the game more fun and less repetitive than have them lower our time required to be there to get everything

You don't have to be blunt/cynical/sarcastic/rude to get a point across. If you have to resort to that type of posting style, then you're probably not as intelligent as you claim to be (or want to be seen as). If you get punished for posting like that, it's your own fault for your lack of self-control IMO. It's not that you don't have to be blunt to get a point across, but when it is done that way, it gets an idea across a lot clearer than skating around the issue, and acting like it's just a minor detail, that they should eventually work on. And I question your idea of self-control. Just because not everyone posts like a nice little unicorn, they don't have self-control? For posting something that gets an idea across? Being blunt is one thing; being rude on top of that is another thing. A lot of the posters around here post bluntly-- and that's OK! However, a lot of them also like to tell someone they're wrong about something (which is fine), and then go on to insult their character or make them feel stupid for being wrong in the first place (which is not fine). It's the disrespectful commentary which people add to their logic/argument that shouldn't be tolerated. As far as self-control goes, I never said they have to be happy-go-lucky when they post. They just shouldn't be rude. You know-- find a spot in between those two extremes... it's not that difficult.

I'd rather spend 50 hours doing something more fun/exciting. It's not like the activity changes at all... it's the same thing starting from square one.

I don't think attributing their posting style to their personality should be an excuse not to punish them. (if that's what you were implying :P) If one were to take the time to consider the implications of their posts, this wouldn't be a problem. Is it really that difficult to create a concise post without any negative connotations?

You don't have to be blunt/cynical/sarcastic/rude to get a point across. If you have to resort to that type of posting style, then you're probably not as intelligent as you claim to be (or want to be seen as). If you get punished for posting like that, it's your own fault for your lack of self-control IMO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DwT_2QQU64

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wO6bQd20KU

Sounds incredibly uninteresting lol

:-w

Do keyers ever use the tank ring?

iirc, imp boxes bank all stackable items

Aren't you risking the x amount of cannonballs you bring as well?

The following are some random observations I've made as a person who no longer plays this game as much as he used to. This topic doesn't particularly have a primary thesis or argument, and was mostly written w/o much structure. I'd mostly just like to hear your thoughts. Correlation between seriousness and pain/pleasure: I believe that the more seriously you take this game, the more pleasure you can derive out of it as well as the more pain. For example, a few years ago back when I was really into this game, I recall freaking out when getting a rare boss drop. It felt great! Yet, as time went on and I found more interesting hobbies to devote my time to, I quit taking RS as seriously. Last spring break I got on RS for the first time in several months to kill Tormented Demons. I ended up getting four claw drops worth 100M in just a matter of days yet I felt no excitement. I was killing the Demons because they were fun to hunt-- I didn't care about the drops anymore. Conversely, in the past if I suffered a major loss in RS, I would be devastated. I know many people still experience thisyou see people trying to quit playing all the time after such losses. Nowadays, though, if I experience any major losses my reaction is more like, That sucks rather than devastation/shock/depression. It simply doesn't affect me like it used to. I can re-obtain anything I lose in time if I want to... there is no rush or pressure. RS isn't going anywhere. Ego Recall the debate there was on crashing a while back on these forums. Recall how riled-up everyone got. I don't think it would have been such a serious issue if people didn't value their time on this game so greatly. Over winter break I returned to play for the first time since summer. I went to kill TDs again for schmidts and giggles, and was doing fine solo'ing two at a time as usual. A random guy's demon strays into my "territory" and interferes w/ my rhythm so I kill it. The guy freaks out and spends the next 20 minutes attacking all of my demons. I still get the kills, somehow, despite his superior stats. He gets angrier and angrier. Finally, he says "ok, kid, brb with ovls and rapier!" I roll my eyes and enjoy my 5 minutes of peace. He returns, and goes back to attacking all my demons. Miraculously, I still get more than half the kills. He remains angry. I'm still just laughing to myself. A friend invites me to go dungeoneer w/ him so I tele out. As the home-teleport spell is activating, I just think to myself about how angry this guy got over something so trivial. Too much of an ego... too serious. He would've been happier sticking to his one demon rather than trying to "show me who's boss." The Buddhist Principle of Material Possessions/Desires --> Suffering In RL, Im a very frugal person and have very few possessions. Yet, I realized in RS I have a ton of possessions. In RS, youre expected to have everything. The game is fueled by desiredesire to obtain what you dont have. As I mentioned in my previous topic (don't bump), the human brain is programmed to always want more. Once you get more, that becomes normal, and you want more again. For example, you may spend all day forcing yourself against your will to level up a skill. After reaching that level, guess what? You probably want the next level now. Now, in RL its easy to ignore this brain process, by appreciating the things you already have and maintaining yourself with the bare essentials. However, in RS, there are no bare essentials. Theres almost always a next level. Optimum equipment is mandatory these days. You cant kill Bandos w/o 138 combat, overloads, and a rapier. You cant kill Nex w/o optimum ranging equipment. You can't have fun w/o things you don't have. Yet, even with "everything" on this game-- there's still always something missing. Even the "maxed" players are now trying to get 200M xp in every single skill. If they are having fun pursuing that goal, then that's great. Otherwise, that's kind of concerning. When free trade returned, some people managed to make billions from staking-- and they still were bored. The money didn't fix their problems/boredom. The general theme of the game seems to be-- the more suffering you can tolerate, the better gear youll get, so you can do more things. If youre one of those people who truly doesnt enjoy training skills or doing tasks to earn money, you probably shouldnt be playing this game. Did you know that a Person A, who makes $50k/yr, while his friends make $25k/yr, will be happier than Person B, who makes $100k/yr, while his friends make $200k/yr? You're constantly reminded that you're not the best on this game. There's always someone one step ahead of you. Jagex seems to be well aware of this fact, and has done a good job of keeping loyal customers because of it. Past a certain point, desire and envy seems to fuel RuneScape more than fun and entertainment. Final Thoughts Do you think people would still become devastated after losing all their hard-earned equipment if it was actually FUN to re-obtain it? How is it that the people who have nothing on this game are having more fun than the people who have everything? At the same time, how is it that the people who have nothing wish they had everything? All the while, the people who have everything wish they could have as much fun as they did when they started playing, and had nothing?

Then go to the empty spot >_>

I like it how everyone's arguing w/ each other while the OP probably hasn't checked this topic since he created it lol

You shouldn't be doing mage stakes w/o a vecna skull

didn't this happen w/ the dungoneering familiars a couple weeks ago? teaser for upcoming dg quest i think

Oh my. Clearly directed towards me. ;) :thumbup: Yeah, can't believe how big the death penalty is :P

Oh my.

Every 4 levels. Next one's at 72 for you. http://www.tip.it/runescape/?page=potion_calc.htm At 96 prayer you won't get any more restoration w/ standard prayer pots w/o the holy wrench. At 97 is the final "boost" w/ standard prayer pots and holy wrench. At 98 is the final "boost" w/ super prayer pots w/ or w/o wrench.

The point I'm trying to make is that you shouldn't worry about the past like that. I sacrificed schoolwork and friends for RS at one time too, but I don't regret it. I'm in college now and my high school grades don't matter at all. I'm in another state now and I am still good friends w/ the people whom I neglected for RS. If you learn from your mistakes, you can start seeing your mistakes as blessings in disguise. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znnj1oFxCRM :thumbup:

I was addicted to runescape a few years back, my grades slipped and I did nothing to get them back up. I know my time spent on this game was a waste, and that I'd be much happier now if I had never found this game. Obviously this is just my experience but runescape does not help you in the real world in any way. Then would you describe yourself as a "waste of human life" a few years back? >_> Well it's not like I could go and get a job, I had no qualifications and I was still in school lol The time I spent on runescape has been fun, but I'd be happier if I spent the time doing something else. Possibly. But you probably wouldn't be any happier right now at this exact time and place.

I was addicted to runescape a few years back, my grades slipped and I did nothing to get them back up. I know my time spent on this game was a waste, and that I'd be much happier now if I had never found this game. Obviously this is just my experience but runescape does not help you in the real world in any way. Then would you describe yourself as a "waste of human life" a few years back? >_>

Don't try staking lol

Why does everyone assume that they'd be doing something productive in the time spent playing RS if they had never discovered it? That kind of attitude isn't the type of attitude that successful/productive people should have.