Should F2P get skill capes?

[Bloodkay]

but then again pure f2p'ers that get 99 skills arent the most common thing either so maybe the need isent the most needed?

 

 

 

It's not just that. Making skill capes F2P will also allow members who earned a skill cape to use it in F2P. For example, say you're a member and you get 99 slayer, but then for some reason you have to cut off your membership. Now, since slayer is a difficult skill, you've of course spent many hours on this game and have subscribed for many months, but now your F2P, and just because you're no longer actively subscribing, you can't wear the skill cape that you worked so hard for?

 

 

 

It's not just about F2P getting skill capes, it also benefits members who have earned a skill cape, and wish to use it if they go F2P for whatever reason.

 

 

 

 

 

I love you point, Balazeal. You being to surface that giving F2P something would benefit members in their own way. Kudos.

[Plugpoint]

I think they should, if anything just because I want to put my skillcape back on without having to pay a fiver :wall:

 

Also, a 99 deserves recognition whether you can afford members or not

[TheXxzlx2]

Nop, because they dont pay... :!:

[Zierro]

If recognition is really what it's all about, isn't there still the hi scores for that purpose?

[SirHartlar]

I think they should be made live the Canifis gloves, only buyable in P2P but you can still use them as a F2P item if your membership runs out. That seems fair to me.

[legilgalad2]

I think they should be made live the Canifis gloves, only buyable in P2P but you can still use them as a F2P item if your membership runs out. That seems fair to me.

 

 

 

Agreed, sounds like a good compromise that benefits both sides.

[BuckTeeth7]

F2P shouldn't get skill capes. Firstly, Jagex would have to work out where to put the new skill masters, which would confuse many. Secondly, there would be a huge uproar amongst those who believe that F2P shouldn't even exist.

 

 

 

Would it be worthwhile? While Jagex is working out where to put the vendors and dealing with the uproar, they could be making new quests, implementing a new minigame, designing new items etc.

 

 

 

As many have said before, there are far too few F2P people who have a skill at level 99. The skill cape suggestion would only entertain a few while causing problems on a wider spectrum.

 

 

 

Macros have been eliminated not directly because of the updates, there was no update which stopped macros, but because the updates removed any use for macros. By making skill capes something available for free users, then, it would encourage a few to use macros again.

 

 

 

Also, Jagex is a company. If too many things are made F2P, then, no one will pay for a subscription. Some may argue that this is only one little thing, but first it is skill capes, then, there will be a suggestion for something else and so on and so on, with each idea easier to push because it would be backed by the previous idea until F2P and P2P have merged into one.

[Zierro]

I think they should be made live the Canifis gloves, only buyable in P2P but you can still use them as a F2P item if your membership runs out. That seems fair to me.

 

 

 

What's the difference between that and how it already is? Can you still do the emote as a F2Per?

[BuckTeeth7]

What's the difference between that and how it already is? Can you still do the emote as a F2Per?

 

You can, but if you take the cape off, you can't re-equip it. Also, you don't get the temporary level bonus or any stat bonuses from it.

 

 

 

The problem with this idea of likening the capes to the Canifis lies with the Quest Cape. Whenever a new quest comes out, the cape isn't wearable. If you are now F2P, you can no longer do the next quest, thus, you can never wear the cape until you become a member again and do that and any other later quests.

[Bloodkay]

F2P shouldn't get skill capes. Firstly, Jagex would have to work out where to put the new skill masters, which would confuse many. Secondly, there would be a huge uproar amongst those who believe that F2P shouldn't even exist.

 

 

 

Would it be worthwhile? While Jagex is working out where to put the vendors and dealing with the uproar, they could be making new quests, implementing a new minigame, designing new items etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd just like to point out two things about your two statements.

 

Firstly: Would they not just TELL everybody where the skill masters are to sell us the capes? I mean they already list out in detail where to find them, it's just a simple relocation and a tweak of the knowledge base. I hardly believe this is a viable point in that it would "confuse many" because they'd no doubt be able to find them again. Like everyone did the first time they were introduced.

 

 

 

Secondly: Even if there was an uproar, how would that hinder Jagex? You know what players do when things don't go their way? They either riot in worlds or rant on the RSOF. I've never, ever heard of Jagex employee's taking time out of their schedules of updating/scripting/whatever they do to deal with a riot or ridiculous rants. They have forum Mods on the RSOF and Player Mods in-game to mute any spammers.

 

 

 

Continue..

[bcranger0]

perhaps skill capes should be available to those who got 99s only in f2p, meaning that they have NEVER been member on that account

[Bloodkay]

perhaps skill capes should be available to those who got 99s only in f2p, meaning that they have NEVER been member on that account

 

 

 

That I don't think is a good idea...

 

It just takes away from our argument that ANYONE should be able to obtain a skill cape because tehy put in the effort to attain a 99 in a skill.

[Kirderf123]

I think that if you get 99 in a skill and then get a cape is fair, i think it would be cool:D

[AlexDT]

but then again pure f2p'ers that get 99 skills arent the most common thing either so maybe the need isent the most needed?

 

 

 

It's not just that. Making skill capes F2P will also allow members who earned a skill cape to use it in F2P. For example, say you're a member and you get 99 slayer, but then for some reason you have to cut off your membership. Now, since slayer is a difficult skill, you've of course spent many hours on this game and have subscribed for many months, but now your F2P, and just because you're no longer actively subscribing, you can't wear the skill cape that you worked so hard for?

 

 

 

It's not just about F2P getting skill capes, it also benefits members who have earned a skill cape, and wish to use it if they go F2P for whatever reason.

 

How is that any different to someone who was never a member in the first place? If you want to be able to wear the cape, either equip it before your membership runs out, or renew your membership. It's like saying "but if a member who has an Elysian spirit shield goes f2p, he won't be able to use his shield anymore, so f2p players should be able to use spirit shields!"

[Beriorn]

This raises another point: where do you buy those skillcapes? A few of F2P skills have their Skillcape salesman somewhere in the Member world. These are:

 

 

 

- Attack

 

- Strength

 

- Range

 

- Magic

 

- Fishing

 

- Firemaking

 

 

 

My suggestions for the relocation or new master of the skill are:

 

 

 

- The Clan Wars guide

 

- Mandrith, the Bounty Hunter guardian

 

- Relocation to the area between Edgeville and Barbarian village

 

- Sedridor, from Rune Mysteries

 

- Relocation to the docks north of Musa Point, Karamja

 

- Relocation to the forest south of Falador, slightly west of the Air altar

[Guest]

As a pure F2p-er I don't see any advantages in us getting skillcapes even if we deserve them. Highscores tell enough, be happy you don't get bothered every 2 minutes with: skill cape emote pl0x!!!

 

 

 

Furthermore what I would like Jagex to change is to make clear skill capes are NOT obtainable in F2p. Every time I have to explain this I am called a liar, just because these numbnuts can't integrate a simple "members only" sign on them in achievements.

 

 

 

Another point would be; there are 15 f2p skills, hood and cape is 2 items, that makes 30 items in total you want to store in your bank. We only have 68 spots, together with a set of rune and some random event items bank would be full in no time. And I don't see us getting more bank space (don't need it either).

 

 

 

So I say we might deserve them as for getting a 99, but we shouldn't get them as it is a fine p2p feature and it should stay that way for the reasons above

[go2guy]

f2p should not get skillcapes because there would be way too many skillcapes out there plus if you realy want a skillcape. Simply get mems, f2p is a demo of runescape so get use to never having skillcapes, skillcapes are like 50% or w/e ppl get mems why would they want to lose money?

[Bloodkay]

f2p should not get skillcapes because there would be way too many skillcapes out there plus if you realy want a skillcape. Simply get mems, f2p is a demo of runescape so get use to never having skillcapes, skillcapes are like 50% or w/e ppl get mems why would they want to lose money?

 

 

 

Let's dissect this =D

 

 

 

Okay, so you say there's be too many out there? That's laughable, cause it's like the equivalent of saying "There's too many Saradomin Rune sets out there". It's an attainable piece of equipment, anyone can have one (after some time).

 

 

 

There really is no reason why F2P can't show off a 99 in a skill in-game. "Because we pay" isn't a good enough argument for that sort of thing (I think).

 

 

 

I don't think F2P is a demo, because Jagex certainly never states that it's a demo, so I see no reason to think that way. It can be a full game in it's own way.

 

 

 

Ummm, we CAN get used to not having skillcapes, we HAVE gotten used to it, I'm sure. It's just that we want them =P

 

 

 

Aaaaand, if I read it correctly, you think that skillcapes are the reason 50% of the members buy a membership? Rofl.

[pureprayer]

I dont f2p should get skill capes. Corrupted armour was your update so go crawl in your hole for 2 years.

 

 

 

;)

[Bloodkay]

I dont f2p should get skill capes. Corrupted armour was your update so go crawl in your hole for 2 years.

 

 

 

;)

 

 

 

 

 

Never :P We've been getting updates out the yazoo, so why not get a little more? xD

[NJE03]

I dont f2p should get skill capes. Corrupted armour was your update so go crawl in your hole for 2 years.

 

 

 

;)

 

 

 

 

 

Never :P We've been getting updates out the yazoo, so why not get a little more? xD

Out of all the f2p updates of 2008, corrupt armor was one of the most useless thanks to the rapid degredation. That being said, how is that relevant to skill capes in any way, shape, or form?

[pureprayer]

There are plenty of (annoying) F2p who say OMG WE SHOULD GET UPDATES@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@[hide=]updates pl0xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx[/hide]

 

Not many on Tip.it but there are many (thats why rsof isnt f2p besides the mass amount of spammers)

 

 

 

It used to be; every year f2p got one update and a *little* more bank space. If Jagex didn't care about f2p they wouldn't of been given a grand exchange.

[Owned_Nex]

I dont f2p should get skill capes. Corrupted armour was your update so go crawl in your hole for 2 years.

 

 

 

;)

 

 

 

 

 

Never :P We've been getting updates out the yazoo, so why not get a little more? xD

Out of all the f2p updates of 2008, corrupt armor was one of the most useless thanks to the rapid degredation. That being said, how is that relevant to skill capes in any way, shape, or form?

 

 

 

Actually, I think that was probably one of THE most useful ones. Its not good for normal training or anything like that, but it IS a very dominant force in PvP. More importantly, it is vital in clan wars. A tank with a few pieces of dragon will outlast any rune wearing tank. Hitting very high with a Dragon Long or Scim is very useful aswell. If you arn't using it, you can just take it off unlike the other corrupt armor/weapons.

[Ubercatz]

I certainly would like a nice skilly to show off to noobs >:D STR FTW! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

 

 

 

ps tim its tim

[Bloodkay]

 

Actually, I think that was probably one of THE most useful ones. Its not good for normal training or anything like that, but it IS a very dominant force in PvP. More importantly, it is vital in clan wars. A tank with a few pieces of dragon will outlast any rune wearing tank. Hitting very high with a Dragon Long or Scim is very useful aswell. If you arn't using it, you can just take it off unlike the other corrupt armor/weapons.

 

 

 

It depends on whose perspective "useful" comes from. For me, and obviously NJE, corrupt armor just isn't worth the trouble and isn't useful at all. Numerous other updates of 2008 have been vastly more important. Like the RS guild, or the bank update, or the magic interface or other numerous little updates that just improve playing quality and not add worthless armor that falls apart after a few minutes..