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Anti-More ftp bankspace thread!


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in game, jagex loses nothing or very little to give bank space. so they're really not similar.




No, It's completely similar. Instead of losing a cheeseburger or fries, Jagex loses money. Runescape runs on Java, as you obviously know, which means that pretty much everything runs on a variable. Even when a bank space is empty, it's still taking up bandwidth as the variable is set to 0, yet the bank space is still there as an active variable.



And who has to pay for that extra bandwidth? Jagex. F2p should worry about paying off the costs of their own servers with the click-ads before they start talking about updates. Take the graphics updates (quests/npcs/areas) and the random other things you guys get from time to time, and live with it.




well yes, but for a company as large as jagex, the small quantity of extra bandwidth it would take to add 10 or 12 more bankspaces for every ftp player can't be much of a dent in their profits.




To go with my previous comparison (which has been completely ignored), it wouldn't put much of a dent in the profits of McDonalds to sell large fries at the same price as regular fries.



=D> for the sheer audacity to judge yourself able to detirmine what would cause a dent in Jagex's profits without knowing much more than how the cost of membership, the number of members and the number of non-members. Or do you have access to accounting details that remain a secret to the rest of us lowly peons?
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in a case such as this where nobody has that information, assumptions must be made. i assume, logically i believe, that adding a few bank spaces to ftp will not cause jagex to go bankrupt, or even to make a small dent in their profits. you, in return, have no way of proving that it makes a large dent in their profits. so it's kind of a gridlock unless you choose one set of assumptions to base your arguments off of.

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in a case such as this where nobody has that information, assumptions must be made. i assume, logically i believe, that adding a few bank spaces to ftp will not cause jagex to go bankrupt, or even to make a small dent in their profits. you, in return, have no way of proving that it makes a large dent in their profits. so it's kind of a gridlock unless you choose one set of assumptions to base your arguments off of.


ok for some reason that i don't know of it sounds like you are supporting for a few spaces of f2p bank space. :? :? :? :?
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I do believe adding bank space will burden JAGeX's computers/servers, and there are a lot of F2Pers... adding bank space, even a bit, to F2P would be a huge thing for JAGeX to swallow. Same reason why they are reluctant to add more rooms to houses, its too much of a burden. And besides, they get nothing in return for doing it for F2P.
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look. adding more bank space in banks will take up a lot of space/memory in there server/computer and that space that is geting taken up by more bank sapce for F2P'ers will COST them money and thats money that clicking on adds cant pay for. not everyone clicks on adds.. tehres lots of auters, noobs who dont bother.

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I cant believe people click on ads, who would do that :?
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I cant believe people click on ads, who would do that :?




I have trouble believing that people are actually clicking the ads. :-k
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does jagex get paid by the click? for some reason i always thought they got paid just by having you look at the ads... maybe you guys are right.

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Yes I also thought that, for each hour you are logged in they get some pennies. That's to compensate for that heavy players use up more memory.



If they only get money for clicked ads it would be impossible for them to break even with the free version (which it does, because of the ads we fund our own F2P version)
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Yes I also thought that, for each hour you are logged in they get some pennies. That's to compensate for that heavy players use up more memory.



If they only get money for clicked ads it would be impossible for them to break even with the free version (which it does, because of the ads we fund our own F2P version)




Ahhh... that's making a lot more sense now. I thought it worked on a click by click basis
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yeah the companies can still draw you in just by having you look at their ads, you don't have to click. like with imvu - i kept seeing ads for it over and over again so one day i said "let's see what's so great about this" and downloaded it. it turned out to be crap, but that's a totally different story.

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Signed, i support the ANTI-MORE BANK SPACE!



f2p is the Runescape DEMO, not the full game. to get the full game (and the bank space to go with it) BUY IT! Pay for a membership! freaking simple!
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Signed, i support the ANTI-MORE BANK SPACE!



f2p is the Runescape DEMO, not the full game. to get the full game (and the bank space to go with it) BUY IT! Pay for a membership! freaking simple!




you do know that the owner of this thread said that you should not reply bu saying that:



f2p don't pay, but members do. that's why we sould get lots of bank space and f2p shouldn't.



which is exactly what you said (in different wording of course.)



but, f2p do pay jagex money, by ads, unfortunately. they don't pay as much as p2p.

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I agree with you. I'm going to f2p soon so I desided to write down what I need in my bank and how will it look. I have like 1-2 lines without anything skilling stuff. So anytime I want to wc or fish there is enough room.



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Row and a half left. I'm pretty sure that's alot. Who needs random event and pointless holiday stuff?.. Maybe the rubber chicken, but that's all I might have in my bank.
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we need for ramdom events cuz for holidays we have Diango... i made one test when i got easter chicken full set i destroyed it (no space) and forgot (simple forgot) that and when i was going to get it from Diago (after 1 month) i get all full set...so if you destroy your stuff you win some space (all that can be destroyed and got again) so we just need to cool ramdom events like camo or mime or even freaky forest
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yeah it looks like the consensus is that ftp wants a way to store their random event stuff. then they'll be fine.

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I think random event clothing should just be destroyable, and should just be retrieveable from Diango just like holiday items. That would be an excellent idea for saving those slots. Hell, I don't even care if we get more bank space or not, but this could be a good idea.

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yeah i believe there's a thread for that in bugs and suggestions already.

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With much embarrassment, I offer my apologies to you. Somehow, some way, I completely misinterpreted your post. It seems that my lack of sleep caused me to miss many key details in your post, thus causing me to read it all wrong. Once again, my apologies. As you may have seen my post in my main thread, I've been extremely caught up in RL issues. It seems that it's taken my toll on me after all. :<img src=:' />



Well, now that I have a whole new perspective on your post... Let's see if I can start this again.



Before I start, I want to make sure I completely understand what I'm reading this time:



You're posting this thread to address all of the common anti-bank space arguments, and voice your thoughts and opinions in reply to them. This is also a spot for people to post their well thought out arguments, correct?



I appreciate you making such a thread. Perhaps the arguments posted here will be better than the spammy little two-line posts in my main thread. It also helps that someone has posted his or her personal replies to the common arguments, thus allowing more detailed debate on it. Nice idea. I only hope you have more luck in keeping down flames and repetitive arguments than I have had.



I'll try to check this thread often, and just see what arguments arouse. I might even pitch in my own two cents if I have the time. I'll most likely chat with you later, at any rate. Until then, I'm going to be out for the afternoon. Good-bye for now. :<img src=:' />
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i just want one thing cleared up, why do YOU personally want no more bank space for f2p?



....ur part of jagex PR team arent u 8-)





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