Anti-More ftp bankspace thread!

[starfirex]

I'm just going to point out how incredibly cheap members is. World of Warcraft is something like 25 a month, Adventure Quest (BattleOn) is 15 bucks, Puzzle Pirates is 10, secondlife members is 10 bucks, etcetera. Runescape costs about 5 bucks a month, and members is way more expansive than almost any other game. Compare Runescape with any new console game. They usually go for about 30 bucks, and are playable for usually up to 20 hours. 30 bucks would get you half a years subscription, and as for playability? Let's just say Jagex measures time in-game in days my only real problem with Runescape is the amount of updates, because Jagex has stated that there are over a million members, which means Jagex makes at least 5 million dollars per month, certainly enough to fund a larger team, which would mean more and better updates. However, with over 100 quests already, and 20 something skills, There is just no good reason for someone who plays runescape enough to need bank space to upgrade to members, unless they don't make 5 dollars a month. and let's face it, most kids could pay for runescape year-round with birthday and christmas money.

[truffoo]

I agree with truffoo

 

 

 

How about a wardrobe (a bank) for clothing items like pants and random event stuff (not armour or anything like that). It might work.

 

 

 

Thus we empy half of our bank.

 

I agree with me too ... but I'd like to extend the thought a bit, partly in response to:

 

Firstly, a few people are saying how it would be good if Diango could store the random event costumes. Sorry, but I don't see that happening any time soon - members have only recently been given the costume room in the POH, which stores random event costumes. Since Jagex have recently addressed the problem (for p2p at least), I can't see them making a new way to store random event costumes. The random event costume section of the costume room would essentially become obselete, and I'm fairly sure that Jagex don't like to totally revise ideas they have had.

 

The Diango/NPC storage option should be a cut down version of the costume room storage. Even if he only stores one set of random event costumes, that could save 3 - 5 spaces for a F2P or P2P (without finances for a POH). This sort of change wouldn't just benefit F2P and wouldn't devalue the POH storage.

[lauren1211]

hm i really don't think the diango/npc storage thing is ever gong to happen. because like sizzlor said, it would devalue the costume room (even if it only stored a few pieces).

 

 

 

and prankster_king, i think you're a little out of your element here :mrgreen: :wink:

[Soma2035]

What is Blizzard's policy on transferring items between characters or "muling"?

 

The transferring of items between Diablo II characters is not supported by Blizzard. Users should be warned that attempts to transfer items between characters online are risky and Blizzard is not responsible for lost items. Storage space is limited in Diablo II both for performance and storage space issues and because the designers wanted players to make decisions as to which items to keep and which items must be thrown away or sold.

 

 

 

This was on the FAQ for Diablo II, another fantasy RPG game. It was definitely different from Runescape in many ways, but there was one similarity that was very visible: item storage. For the first part of the game you would see this huge storage space and you could never imagine it filled with items. Kind of like when you stick all your stuff in the bank along with a cape some nice level 30 gave you when you first started Runescape. About halfway through the game, you're constantly trying to decide what items to keep, what items to discard, what items to sell, etc.

 

 

 

I think in all such games where there are hundreds of thousands of items, you need to be limited in the amount of space you are given. I don't know if this is Jagex's belief at all, but managing your items and storage space carefully and discarding useless items is all part of it.

 

 

 

Bank space should be able to accommodate all the core items, like armor, runes, seeds, herbs, money, other currencies, and skilling tools, with little extra space. The F2P bank cap seems to be appropriate for this as it can hold most things F2Pers use that have value.

 

 

 

Oh, and items like rubber chickens can be retrieved easily so it's not necessary to keep the min the bank.

[goretint]

After posting a couple times in this thread already, I've looked back and noticed something. Around 90% of the F2P complaints are based on the fact that they have no room for RANDOM EVENT CLOTHES/ITEMS. Boo-Freakin-hooooooo. Throw it out.

 

Do you really think Jagex is going to spend money on F2P (and if you missed my earlier post: bank space = server space = money)so they can store random event costumes? No one is supposed to play F2P long enough to even worry about that kind of stuff. It's absolutely sickening to hear these F2P lifers whine and cry about anything in the game. You DO NOT deserve more space, you DO NOT deserve more updates, you DO NOT deserve a say in anything game related. Jagex has absolutely no obligation to you whatsoever. Get over yourselves.

 

 

 

Oh, BTW. If I offend, my apologies. Giving up on the ciggys is hard.

[Cammo]

I'm f2p and i support this through and through. i just keep my mime set, and doubles of melee ranged sets and some tele/alc runes. i also keep about 3 of each tool i skill with.

 

 

 

even with 100 addy ore, 600 coal - 300 iron - 100 normal logs, 7 str pots 8 vials, 14 diamonds, 6 rubys, a emerald, 1k mith arrows 2k steel 500 iron and 400 bronze arrows -- i have 6 spot left over!

[krugtheorc]

ok, rant time again \

 

 

 

first of all, for all those saying that f2p should get more bank space, get on topic. this is an anti-f2p bank space. not a 'well, maybe if we switch this around and give f2p a new place to store' forum topic. Not a 'well, f2p can have bank space, but p2p should get it too' forum topic. This is a 'no f2p bank space' forum topic.

 

 

 

Secondly, getting back on topic, runescape is supposted to be a game. Games are supposted to be challenging. Therefor, runescape should be challenging. Hense the reason that it takes 372 344 iron to get to level 15 to level 99 mining. If free members were given more bank space, it would make the game easier. if you asked mining to give more experience, would it be such an achievement?

 

 

 

Basically, the same people that complain about bank space already think the game is too hard. They are the same people that complain about only being able to hold 28 items, that there isn't enough coal rocks or yew trees, and that the lobster fishing spot is nowhere near a bank.

 

 

 

Guess what freebies, it's time to ante up. We have what we got, and an occasional little free bit. That's what we get for free.

[truffoo]

After posting a couple times in this thread already, I've looked back and noticed something. Around 90% of the F2P complaints are based on the fact that they have no room for RANDOM EVENT CLOTHES/ITEMS. Boo-Freakin-hooooooo. Throw it out.

 

Do you really think Jagex is going to spend money on F2P (and if you missed my earlier post: bank space = server space = money)so they can store random event costumes? No one is supposed to play F2P long enough to even worry about that kind of stuff. It's absolutely sickening to hear these F2P lifers whine and cry about anything in the game. You DO NOT deserve more space, you DO NOT deserve more updates, you DO NOT deserve a say in anything game related. Jagex has absolutely no obligation to you whatsoever. Get over yourselves.

 

 

 

Oh, BTW. If I offend, my apologies. Giving up on the ciggys is hard.

 

Good luck with giving up the ciggys.

 

 

 

If F2P was truely a demo only, then I'd tend to agree. However if it is truely a demo, then they may as well time-bomb it. After 100 hours of playing you either go member or don't play anymore.

 

 

 

No, I think F2P is more than just a demo. It is an important part of the RS landscape both to Jagex and P2Pers. If that was not the case, then they wouldn't have bothered moving the party room, wouldn't bother allowing F2Pers to clan chat, etc. It is a break-even system whereby a number become members because they want more of the game, but also part of many P2Pers gamelife, be it merchanting, PKing, or something else.

 

 

 

Do we 'deserve' anything ... possibly not. Do I expect more bank space ... no. However I can see some justification for it to happen, but not just for the sake of it. Part of a bigger change, not just because there are people who will constantly ask.

 

 

 

Oh, and it isn't completely about random clothing, that's just the easiest example to use.

 

 

 

The ultimate question is How important do Jagex see F2P is in the greater scheme of the game? Obviously important enough to keep it going (for now ... wonder why the F2P poll came out?? Seeing if it is really worthwhile to continue?????)

[snake6man]

After posting a couple times in this thread already, I've looked back and noticed something. Around 90% of the F2P complaints are based on the fact that they have no room for RANDOM EVENT CLOTHES/ITEMS. Boo-Freakin-hooooooo. Throw it out.

 

Do you really think Jagex is going to spend money on F2P (and if you missed my earlier post: bank space = server space = money)so they can store random event costumes? No one is supposed to play F2P long enough to even worry about that kind of stuff. It's absolutely sickening to hear these F2P lifers whine and cry about anything in the game. You DO NOT deserve more space, you DO NOT deserve more updates, you DO NOT deserve a say in anything game related. Jagex has absolutely no obligation to you whatsoever. Get over yourselves.

 

 

 

Oh, BTW. If I offend, my apologies. Giving up on the ciggys is hard.

 

Good luck with giving up the ciggys.

 

 

 

If F2P was truely a demo only, then I'd tend to agree. However if it is truely a demo, then they may as well time-bomb it. After 100 hours of playing you either go member or don't play anymore.

 

 

 

No, I think F2P is more than just a demo. It is an important part of the RS landscape both to Jagex and P2Pers. If that was not the case, then they wouldn't have bothered moving the party room, wouldn't bother allowing F2Pers to clan chat, etc. It is a break-even system whereby a number become members because they want more of the game, but also part of many P2Pers gamelife, be it merchanting, PKing, or something else.

 

 

 

Do we 'deserve' anything ... possibly not. Do I expect more bank space ... no. However I can see some justification for it to happen, but not just for the sake of it. Part of a bigger change, not just because there are people who will constantly ask.

 

 

 

Oh, and it isn't completely about random clothing, that's just the easiest example to use.

 

 

 

The ultimate question is How important do Jagex see F2P is in the greater scheme of the game? Obviously important enough to keep it going (for now ... wonder why the F2P poll came out?? Seeing if it is really worthwhile to continue?????)

 

 

 

how do u know that ftp will be able to clan chat?

 

 

 

but imo, ftp is important to get people to join members, not to keep ftpers playing. and giving ftp more bankspace would incurage more people to stay ftp and not join members.

[giros]

hey goretint regarding your "f2p don't deserve" speech. If we didn't deserve updates then jagex wouldn't make the f2p version. if anything left it classic rune. besides I don't think you reserve the right to decide who deserves what when you don't even help run the game.

[Maynard]

I honestly don't know why jagex just dosen't give us limitless bank space -.-

 

 

 

We will never know. :-k

[gun_hippy]

I honestly don't know why jagex just dosen't give us limitless bank space -.-

 

 

 

We will never know. :-k

 

 

 

Bank space = server space = higher costs

 

 

 

to quote somebody earlier

[Lord_Firer]

First, I must state something. I am rather sick of all these topics of FTP BANK SPACE, which ever side your on.

 

 

 

But anyway, I can see your point of view here. I just have one problem. I was a member, and will be one again soon, but I hate the problem that members objects count as bank space when your not a member. Now explain to me the reasoning behind this idea. I had members clothes on when my membership ran out, I was planning to go on again and deposit them in my bank before the membership ran out. But I didn't. So now I am stuck with 9 items permanatliy in my inventory unless I wish to drop them. But since I am starting up membership again at the end of the month or so, I am not dropping them.

 

 

 

So I now am unable to do anything effectiveliy untill I am able to resubscribe. It should jsut be that only the ftp items that count as bank space. Also, I should be able to deposit the members objects.

[Guest]

limitless bankspace is not an option, it's still data that needs to be stored on a central pc or something.

 

 

 

I can tell you i am f2p and i have been struggling with my bankspace, but only after i gotall random event items, which i, just as all other players love. I don't need extra bank space i can cope with all this now, i keep an chisel in my bank so i do not need to store uncut gems, i have a full set of rune armour, a full set of green dhide, a rune pickaxe. also i have most of the runes stored in my bank, and some staffs. the rest of my bank inv. is mainly occupied by random event stuff.

 

 

 

now i know you p2p guys pay to play the game, i've made a decision not to do that, which is my own decision. i've read most of the comments and i understand why soem p2p-ers feel mad about usasking bank space. i can tell you i do NOT need any bank space any more. the only thing i do need, and keep begging for (even when i'm f2p) is an storage box for my random event items. I'd pay several mil (ingame money ;) ) for it to obtain it, just to store my random event items in. that would save me alot of bank space and i don't need extra!

 

 

 

or maybe i need some kind of bag for every outfit, and yes i am willing to pay ingame money for it.

 

 

 

for someone that is still doubting, try to have a talk with an real f2p-er!

 

 

 

So remmeber we do not need extra bank space, we only need things to store those lame random event items in!

 

 

 

hope this explaibs why some of us f2p-ers are begging for xtra bank space (which we do not need) if we get rid of all the stuff the randoms take place of, we have PLENTY of space left

 

 

 

mauranius

 

 

 

P.S. you can pm me if you have questions and yes i am aware that i do not pay, so i should not nag about it.... :XD:

[Leejjon]

They should make a shop where you can buy all f2p runecrafting talismans... Then I don't need to store those anymore. I have one row left and I've dropped/sold everything I never use. Maybe if you have a phat set and mask set and santa you get out of space. But then it's your choice to store them and replace them for other items.

[The Observer]

I feel that giving F2P bank space will discourage people from drop trading to other accounts just to store extra items. It will actually help JAGeX.

[newkid79]

I'm a free player and i have never had troubles with the amount of bank space, i have seen the people who think they need more space to store stuff and they do not need it, all they have is a bunch of half done projects and quest items.

[goretint]

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hope this explaibs why some of us f2p-ers are begging for xtra bank space (which we do not need) if we get rid of all the stuff the randoms take place of, we have PLENTY of space left

 

 

 

 

 

 

Admitting you have a problem is the first step...

[floul1]

Its just another member anoyyed with F2P

 

 

 

 

 

P.S im a member and i use to be just like him always moaning about f2p

[Guest]

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hope this explaibs why some of us f2p-ers are begging for xtra bank space (which we do not need) if we get rid of all the stuff the randoms take place of, we have PLENTY of space left

 

 

 

 

 

 

Admitting you have a problem is the first step...

 

 

 

afcourse all f2p-ers have a problem, they whine too much (i know i am one :P )

 

the thing is we have enough space IF we could store the randoms anywhere and yes it's someone's own choise if they keep randoms ore not (like i drop all frog tokens, and soon maybe even my lame zombie outfit) but the point is, it took me 1 year to get a full set of camo, and right after i had full i had it 10+ times in a month! we really like this event clothing cuz with this we can seperate us from the real noobs (yeh f2p-ers r noobs :XD: )

 

 

 

also it is truewhat this other dude says, if we can store our random event clothing we wouldn't be needign additional bank space, it will actually take less data to store for jagex, and thus it becomes better. there are plenty of impulses for people to become member (not me :-$ )

[Jamezkool]

:-k one line wont hurt but then again i see the point i still dont like f2p, pay for it!

[lauren1211]

Its just another member anoyyed with F2P

 

 

 

 

 

P.S im a member and i use to be just like him always moaning about f2p

 

 

 

as i've stated multiple times, i AM ftp.

[Guest]

We need 0 lines!

 

 

 

all some of us would like (and we are willing to beg for it every day :twisted: ) is a place to stash our beloved random items, whcih members can as well. i don't evem mind about having no skillcapes and all that mess cuzz i don't pay for the game so we do not deserve that.

 

 

 

maybe it's tiem for an f2p riot :P we'll all beg for random event storage :

[Tekilla]

I got an idea! how about, for ever random item you get, you get one more bankspace,if you get rid of the item the bankspace also disappears!(this would not count for stackable items, and if you fill that bankspace with something else,then lose the random item, ur bank will not allow you to store more stuff inside, unless you remove the item taking up the "random bankslot" =P

[truffoo]

After posting a couple times in this thread already, I've looked back and noticed something. Around 90% of the F2P complaints are based on the fact that they have no room for RANDOM EVENT CLOTHES/ITEMS. Boo-Freakin-hooooooo. Throw it out.

 

Do you really think Jagex is going to spend money on F2P (and if you missed my earlier post: bank space = server space = money)so they can store random event costumes? No one is supposed to play F2P long enough to even worry about that kind of stuff. It's absolutely sickening to hear these F2P lifers whine and cry about anything in the game. You DO NOT deserve more space, you DO NOT deserve more updates, you DO NOT deserve a say in anything game related. Jagex has absolutely no obligation to you whatsoever. Get over yourselves.

 

 

 

Oh, BTW. If I offend, my apologies. Giving up on the ciggys is hard.

 

Good luck with giving up the ciggys.

 

 

 

If F2P was truely a demo only, then I'd tend to agree. However if it is truely a demo, then they may as well time-bomb it. After 100 hours of playing you either go member or don't play anymore.

 

 

 

No, I think F2P is more than just a demo. It is an important part of the RS landscape both to Jagex and P2Pers. If that was not the case, then they wouldn't have bothered moving the party room, wouldn't bother allowing F2Pers to clan chat, etc. It is a break-even system whereby a number become members because they want more of the game, but also part of many P2Pers gamelife, be it merchanting, PKing, or something else.

 

 

 

Do we 'deserve' anything ... possibly not. Do I expect more bank space ... no. However I can see some justification for it to happen, but not just for the sake of it. Part of a bigger change, not just because there are people who will constantly ask.

 

 

 

Oh, and it isn't completely about random clothing, that's just the easiest example to use.

 

 

 

The ultimate question is How important do Jagex see F2P is in the greater scheme of the game? Obviously important enough to keep it going (for now ... wonder why the F2P poll came out?? Seeing if it is really worthwhile to continue?????)

 

 

 

how do u know that ftp will be able to clan chat?

 

 

 

but imo, ftp is important to get people to join members, not to keep ftpers playing. and giving ftp more bankspace would incurage more people to stay ftp and not join members.

 

There was a comment by a Jmod on RSOF saying that clan chat will be F2P, so unless that is wrong, F2P will be able to clan chat (since many members will do clan events on F2P servers).

 

 

 

F2Pers never consistently become members at the same stage. Therefore, any F2Per is always a potential member, even a level 126 might become member one day. And as I said in an earlier post, I don't think there will be many F2Pers becoming members just to get more bank space. Sure there will be a small percentage where that is the driver, but members is more than just more bank space.

 

 

 

Just to reiterate my main opinion (as a F2Per): I don't think Jagex should go out of their way to give F2P more space, but if/when they redevelop the bank interface, I suspect F2P will get more space.