I haven't checked out the RSOF topic you linked to but I have a comment about the usefulness.

 

 

 

Super heating. There are some minor differences between the two but when was the last time you made 20k iron bars with superheat? That's right you don't. Same thing with this planking spell. Use it for those times you want to make a plank without having to go to Varrock and leave it at that. It's probably only useful for those random mahogany planks you need. Same logic with superheating for me. I only use it to make rune bars or addy when I have a few lying around.

 

 

 

While I agree that the spell is a big flop, I don't entirely agree with the superheating comment, unless specifically meant for iron. For rune and maybe even addy, it's not worth the time to smelt at a furnace when you could superheat several times faster.

 

 

 

This new spell is undoubtedly worthless to anybody with the stats to complete this quest. If you can complete this quest, then you can CERTAINLY complete Enlightened Journey, in which case you can CERTAINLY use duel rings and go from castle wars to the balloon, then to the Sawmill in a flash.

 

 

 

This balloon method is not only MUCH faster, but with the rune costs and remaining GP costs, the difference in plank-making costs is too minimal to even consider using this spell for anything other than a quickie plank. Even if you're cutting your own logs, the Sawmill is packed with oak and normal trees for basic planks.

 

 

 

If the spell did every plank in the inventory, even with the GP costs remaining, it might be an ok method, but as is, this is just plain pointless.

I haven't checked out the RSOF topic you linked to but I have a comment about the usefulness.

 

 

 

Super heating. There are some minor differences between the two but when was the last time you made 20k iron bars with superheat? That's right you don't. Same thing with this planking spell. Use it for those times you want to make a plank without having to go to Varrock and leave it at that. It's probably only useful for those random mahogany planks you need. Same logic with superheating for me. I only use it to make rune bars or addy when I have a few lying around.

 

 

 

While I agree that the spell is a big flop, I don't entirely agree with the superheating comment, unless specifically meant for iron. For rune and maybe even addy, it's not worth the time to smelt at a furnace when you could superheat several times faster.

 

 

 

This new spell is undoubtedly worthless to anybody with the stats to complete this quest. If you can complete this quest, then you can CERTAINLY complete Enlightened Journey, in which case you can CERTAINLY use duel rings and go from castle wars to the balloon, then to the Sawmill in a flash.

 

 

 

This balloon method is not only MUCH faster, but with the rune costs and remaining GP costs, the difference in plank-making costs is too minimal to even consider using this spell for anything other than a quickie plank. Even if you're cutting your own logs, the Sawmill is packed with oak and normal trees for basic planks.

 

 

 

If the spell did every plank in the inventory, even with the GP costs remaining, it might be an ok method, but as is, this is just plain pointless.

 

 

 

Well, maybe some people are looking for alternative way to train magic.

 

The EXP is not so bad, and you still make profit making mahogany planks with this spell. You make higher and faster profit with ballooning/running to sawmill, but you get no magic exp from it.

 

 

 

As there is always a buyer for anything, there is always someone who uses spells which are not so popular.

 

Well, maybe some people are looking for alternative way to train magic.

 

The EXP is not so bad, and you still make profit making mahogany planks with this spell. You make higher and faster profit with ballooning/running to sawmill, but you get no magic exp from it.

 

 

 

As there is always a buyer for anything, there is always someone who uses spells which are not so popular.

 

 

 

True, but there are much better ways to train magic as slow as this is for xp, even if you don't consider how much faster it is to make them with the balloon.

 

Well, maybe some people are looking for alternative way to train magic.

 

The EXP is not so bad, and you still make profit making mahogany planks with this spell. You make higher and faster profit with ballooning/running to sawmill, but you get no magic exp from it.

 

 

 

As there is always a buyer for anything, there is always someone who uses spells which are not so popular.

 

 

 

True, but there are much better ways to train magic as slow as this is for xp, even if you don't consider how much faster it is to make them with the balloon.

 

 

 

 

 

Well, yeah, I am not actually saying that the new spell is good or anything, jagex is probably running out of ideas.

 

 

 

All I am saying, is that someone will find it useful anyway. :P

 

 

 

One spell I really like, is the one which you can fill vials with. :P

if you can cast on noted logs, this is awesome! You bring 8000 noted oak logs to your house, 16k astrals, and an earth staff. You then sit in your house, and click "Make oak larder" "Desroy oak larder" over and over again for hours. 99 con in no time.

not every1 could afford 16k astrals

if you can cast on noted logs, this is awesome! You bring 8000 noted oak logs to your house, 16k astrals, and an earth staff. You then sit in your house, and click "Make oak larder" "Desroy oak larder" over and over again for hours. 99 con in no time.

not every1 could afford 16k astrals

 

 

 

If you can afford 8k oak planks you can find the cash to buy the astrals.

 

 

 

But cleary thats not the point maxdout4life is making...

The spell is useless because Jagex doesn't really understand how to make balanced updates any more. They are deathly afraid of making anything "too good", so they err on the side of making things "too bad".

 

 

 

And it's nothing new. At least half of the Lunar spellbook is not worth the cost of casting, which is why Lunar was so little used in the first place.

 

 

 

~q

Let's say you had cash, wanted mage exp, construction exp and had a lot of time on your hands.

 

 

 

This would then be a good way for this spell.

 

 

 

To be entirely honest, I'll only use it for quests which requre planks and things.

its not that bad to b e honest i mea we alrdy have usles spells and heres another one at least this will get used more often than spells lke snare bind or them curse spells...sure its not that great but its still usefull...and not everybody can stand they hours upon hours running 6-8k oak logs

I say quit yer whining and get on with something else. You do whatever method suits you, or don't train construction at all if you don't want to lose money. Whoever said every skill had to be about making money?

I'll agree with the comments given about the comparison of this to superheating. This doesn't speed up the process like super heat does for smelting rune but my point was not all udates/spells make things significantly easier and they're not always incredibly useful. You can find a specific great use for nearly any spell if you look hard enough and limit your scope. I think the following quote pretty much sums it all up nicely:

 

 

 

The spell is useless because Jagex doesn't really understand how to make balanced updates any more. They are deathly afraid of making anything "too good", so they err on the side of making things "too bad".

 

 

 

And it's nothing new. At least half of the Lunar spellbook is not worth the cost of casting, which is why Lunar was so little used in the first place.

 

 

 

~q

 

 

 

Precisely. They err on the side of caution a lot from since they've gotten bitten from many updates that created situations they didn't anticipate.

 

 

 

One thing I can't get is why the rune costs are so high for this spell set in general. 3 law runes to teleport to Catherby is a bit high. This really kills most reasons for using it. I don't see how me getting to farming patches quickly justifies 3 law teleports. -.-

The high spell cost is to offset the low XP you get from casting.

 

 

 

/sarcasm

 

 

 

It would be nifty if Jagex would bother actually getting PROPER players to test their new "features" so they could be told what utter crap they are before they foist them on the rest of us.

 

 

 

~q

 

One thing I can't get is why the rune costs are so high for this spell set in general. 3 law runes to teleport to Catherby is a bit high. This really kills most reasons for using it. I don't see how me getting to farming patches quickly justifies 3 law teleports. -.-

 

 

 

I'm a bit out of the loop as far as RS goes, but I agree. Especially when there is a spell that is lvl 45 and only requires an air staff + 1 law (Camelot tele). All you have to do is run east a bit... and there the patches are.

 

 

 

A lvl 87 spell with those requirements that already has an area near by where you could tele to (just on another spell book) is pretty sad.

 

 

 

Infact... I think the Spell book swap + Camelot tele is cheaper then the Catherby Teleport even.

 

 

 

As for the Plank spell... you'd be surprised how many power lvlers would pay the extra 50gp just to save them some time. Unless the butlers are faster, then I wouldn't know why they would bother with the spell. The spell definitely wasn't what I was expecting at least. I'll leave it at that.

I don't know why people expect every addition to the game to be life altering. It's okay to have a small update (especially when it is combined with others, like this one was). I'm sure I would use the spell from time to time when I'm on Lunar.

How long is the animation for each cast? If it's fast enough, it could be a good way to train magic [a little]and make [a little] money at the same time....

Its obviously a useless spell....like most of the things jagex puts in runescape.

People whine so much about these new spells it makes me wonder.

 

 

 

For months lots of you sat whining you wanted a new cheaper/more efficient way to turn logs to planks.

 

 

 

Now you have it. Fact is you can make huge savings, while making a fair amount of mage xp using this spell.

 

 

 

How does this work you may ask?

 

 

 

It works by using common sense and not being lazy.

 

 

 

1) Make a 1 time investment of around 5k into a basic earth staff from the store in varrock - earth runes costs gone

 

2) Purchase or buy pure ess. Then proceed to use your power of movement within the game to convert this to astral runes - astral rune costs gone

 

3) Purchase further ess and proceed to repeat this moving i spoke of with the nature alter - nature rune costs gone.

 

 

 

4) Revel in the fact you are making planks faster than sawmill runs (assuming u don;t sit and watch animation each time) and fact that per log you are saving a few hundred gp that you can throw towards some marble or gold leaf to decorate ur newly improved house

The high spell cost is to offset the low XP you get from casting.

 

 

 

/sarcasm

 

 

 

It would be nifty if Jagex would bother actually getting PROPER players to test their new "features" so they could be told what utter crap they are before they foist them on the rest of us.

 

 

 

~q

Last I checked, most of tb&jt ARE proper players, with their own non jagex accounts. In fact, i remember Mod Ash mentioning that he was a player even before he joined Jagex.

The biggest problem here is that ever since Construction came out, people have been wanting a way to make planks for free. Since Construction was made to drain money, that isn't going to happen. If you want "free" Construction XP, mine clay, mine limestone, collect plank spawns, or kill big bone droppers and collect Long and Curved bones. I'm sure there are others, but there are no fast and easy ways to level Construction for free. And as someone said above, if you mine and craft your own runes, then these spells give you a way to get cheaper planks. Quit trying to look for fast and easy ways to raise Construction for free. It's not going to happen.

People whine so much about these new spells it makes me wonder.

 

 

 

For months lots of you sat whining you wanted a new cheaper/more efficient way to turn logs to planks.

 

 

 

Now you have it. Fact is you can make huge savings, while making a fair amount of mage xp using this spell.

 

 

 

 

 

 

.. thank you for not reading any od the posts... this spell is NOT faster and it is NOT cheaper especialy when you factor in the time like you atempted to do. the spell ( with confirmation box and the slow animation) it takes about 10 seconds per log... there has already been tests done by other people that show that the original method is faster... thats a fact

 

 

 

The point of most updates are to IMPROVE the game... this spell is NOT an improvement period... and AGAIN the BIGGEST complaint is the TIME so could people quit with the " Omg your just broke complaining newbs that want free exp" if you had BOTHERED to read you would have seen the biggest complaint has been the slowness of planking with the spell....

 

 

 

LK1

Well, at least its more useful than the Brine Sabre :-s

Well, at least its more useful than the Brine Sabre :-s

 

 

 

uhmm err.... well... the only thing i can really say to that is... it doesnt require lvl 86 to use and ( as far as I've been aware of) its been considered lower lvl equip from day 1? but yea its pretty useless at this point as well.

 

 

 

I just hope jagex doesnt later on includ even more crazy stuff for spells like a rune plate for a cook anyway spell

 

 

 

LK1

 

 

 

ps this spell would be good or at least acceptible if it were at least balanced. If they wanted to make an even bigger money drain then htey could charge the same price as mill but also use runes. this would make people use higher lvl logs more often for reason of pure speed and thus burn even more money.