prayer

[n64jive]

You're a moron..Not only does it cost a lot of money to level up prayer, but prayer potions are extremely expensive. The person who is "invincible" to these monsters is spending about 2k per minute...that's 120k an hour used on these prayer potions...Food is a lot cheaper then prayer potions, that is why most people take that route...If someone wants to spend their cash on prayer potions, let them.

 

 

 

I bet you also don't like that people use guthans to heal, and don't have to bring food?

[rareghoul1]

this is one of the huge things i don't like about runescape, besides the fact it takes so long to get 99's(plz don't respond to thAT)

 

 

 

please don't flame me for ranting, i thought this would b the right place

 

 

 

1.Don't put a ridiculous statement in your thread and tell people to not comment about it -.- .

 

 

 

2.The same sentence pretty muh answered itself :lol: .

 

 

 

3. Don't complain aout something being overpowered when you don't even have that skill in the highscores. My guess is that you died the Elvarg or something and yougot angry when you saw someone else go in using orayer and kill him with ease.

 

 

 

first off, i beat elvarg first try. second, prayer doesn't proect from his flame attack now does it?

 

 

 

Get over it. Prayer is useful, and by no means cheap. Oh...and by the way...it's the fastest Level 99 to get if you have the cash to buy d bones and a Gilded Altar. So don't give me any of that, "Takes too long to level," crap. lol.

 

 

 

sure, i doesn't take too long to level if you have a couple mil to spend on it. prayer is the way to buy into combat, without it, member pures would be obsolete, because they can't use prayer in place of their low defense. not many people have the what 60 constructioon to get a gilded alter, too damn expensive, same with buying d bones. you can call me a noob for saying that you can buy your way into combat, sure, but it won't be true. say there's a level 3 skiller. hes rich, most skillers are. he wants to get into combat, but is too afraid to train on stronger monsters that will level him faster. so what can he do? buy a high prayer level, use protection prayers, and voila, free combat exp almost. and don't give me that bs about having to use p pots all the time, if you weren't so impatient or if you were using prayer at a low level, then u could just pray to get it back.

 

 

 

i don't have a problem with stat boosting prayers, nor with the smite, retribution, and redemption prayers. save item was a good idea, but the 2x recover prayers are a little lame. protection prayers are the ones that make the game easier for you stuck up rich people.

[rareghoul1]

You're a moron..Not only does it cost a lot of money to level up prayer, but prayer potions are extremely expensive. The person who is "invincible" to these monsters is spending about 2k per minute...that's 120k an hour used on these prayer potions...Food is a lot cheaper then prayer potions, that is why most people take that route...If someone wants to spend their cash on prayer potions, let them.

 

 

 

I bet you also don't like that people use guthans to heal, and don't have to bring food?

 

 

 

this isn't about guthans, that decays after a while anyway, and it's very expensive to repair, and don't say you can just use a workshop in your house because it takes money to get your construction up that high as well. it sounds to me like you can't think of an arguement so you're changing the topic, and you guys are contradicting yourselves while defending prayer.

[n_odie]

Um, ok. Jagex designed the game. THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT! Anyway. Prayer is a great skill. IT allows the lv 70 cb player to do many more things if all one does is play smart. ITs all stratagy.

 

this may be in the rants section.

[rareghoul1]

Um, ok. Jagex designed the game. THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT! Anyway. Prayer is a great skill. IT allows the lv 70 cb player to do many more things if all one does is play smart. ITs all stratagy.

 

this may be in the rants section.

 

 

 

IT allows rich pures to have a distinct advantage over anyone who has lower prayer, but higher combat. the players with higher combat should still be able to do the things the pures with high prayer can, because they worked harder, but they can't.

[BloodAngel]

A large amount of the boss monsters in P2P attack with more than one form of attack to prevent people being immune to them. And fighting normal monsters with prayer is a huge waste of money if you use prayer pots against them. In my opinion the only normal monsters that need praying against are Metal Dragons and maybe the highest slayer monster (forgot its name).

 

 

 

-Bloodangel

[rareghoul1]

mods, please close thi topic, i did not make my first post clear and as a result people are confused as to what the topic is about.

[nyyankees588]

I kinda see what your saying but as far as other players see it, I don't think they think the same. If it makes the game so easy then why do so many people have low prayer/ hate prayer? Thats just a thought.

[rareghoul1]

I kinda see what your saying but as far as other players see it, I don't think they think the same. If it makes the game so easy then why do so many people have low prayer/ hate prayer? Thats just a thought.

 

 

 

*sigh* becasue it's too expensive for them, prayer is the way to buy yourself into combat....

[Kiriyama]

nobody uses prayer on slayer tasks, except for metal dragons.

 

So I'm the only one who using prayer against Aberrant Specters?

 

I've only ever seen one person not use prayer and he got owned.

 

 

 

money doesn't grow on trees.

 

:mrgreen: Had to say this ...Money is made paper, paper is made from trees.

 

 

 

This topic seems a little stupid.

 

 

 

Pro's of prayer

 

Reduced PvP damage

 

No damage from most monsters

 

 

 

Con's of Prayer

 

Very Expensive to train

 

Costs money to use (even if your not using prayer potions you still have to use a alter which normally costs laws to get to)

 

Prayer Armour is generally low defence.

 

Some monsters can damage through it.

 

Can not be trained as well using pest control.

 

 

 

As you can see its not all good.

 

 

 

I don't pray on Abberants and I've never been "owned".

 

 

 

And Notes are made from cotton which grows out of the ground not paper. Envirmentalists would be all over the governments wagon if it was.

[rareghoul1]

nobody uses prayer on slayer tasks, except for metal dragons.

 

So I'm the only one who using prayer against Aberrant Specters?

 

I've only ever seen one person not use prayer and he got owned.

 

 

 

money doesn't grow on trees.

 

:mrgreen: Had to say this ...Money is made paper, paper is made from trees.

 

 

 

This topic seems a little stupid.

 

 

 

Pro's of prayer

 

Reduced PvP damage

 

No damage from most monsters

 

 

 

Con's of Prayer

 

Very Expensive to train

 

Costs money to use (even if your not using prayer potions you still have to use a alter which normally costs laws to get to)

 

Prayer Armour is generally low defence.

 

Some monsters can damage through it.

 

Can not be trained as well using pest control.

 

 

 

As you can see its not all good.

 

 

 

I don't pray on Abberants and I've never been "owned".

 

 

 

And Notes are made from cotton which grows out of the ground not paper. Envirmentalists would be all over the governments wagon if it was.

 

 

 

english money is made from cotton but us money is still made from paper. sorry

[LordoftheSquishies]

Look up my stats if you want my background on this (1550+ with 90 cb if that's any idea). Prayer's useful; don't hate it, use it. I don't use prayer often... I got my rear owned my first time through Dream Mentor (low melee for ya) and ended up using the duck in and out technique for RFD. And quite simply, I don't need 43 prayer to be invincible. I need one mage or one range... WHOA! I STARTED WITH THOSE!... Yeah. And you can kinda buy into combat no matter what using the logic presented here. Instead of buying d bones, try buying bloods. There goes your mage. Oh and what's that other thing called, that huge medieval anachronism... A cannon? Yeah, I believe so. A cannon. Hitting 30s at lvl 40 range... Wow. And what's this??? Whips give crazy experience???? Who knew???????? Here's the bottom line:

 

 

 

In Runescape, the amount of money you have and the time you spend on something are inversely proportionate. If you don't have one, you'll use the other. Either that or you'll end up ranting.

 

 

 

Oh... I use lobs on aberrants \

[kaiserballs]

rareghoul, I don't understand you or your logic at all brother :?

[12pure34]

I currently have 65 prayer at 95 combat and after I get my goal of the rune defender, i am planning on 70 prayer.

 

 

 

prayer does NOT make you invincible, but it sure helps!

 

 

 

You want to hear things of which you are not invulnerable, but you depend! on prayer..

 

 

 

Daganoth kings, 3 way attacks.. no way to surive without prayer

 

Kalphite queen

 

King black dragon

 

Meleeing steel dragons

 

Barrows?!

 

 

 

People die there!

[drgnslyer_15]

I kinda see what your saying but as far as other players see it, I don't think they think the same. If it makes the game so easy then why do so many people have low prayer/ hate prayer? Thats just a thought.

 

 

 

*sigh* becasue it's too expensive for them, prayer is the way to buy yourself into combat....

i could prob buy 99 prayer twice.. I choose not it cause its a waste

[rareghoul1]

Look up my stats if you want my background on this (1550+ with 90 cb if that's any idea). Prayer's useful; don't hate it, use it. I don't use prayer often... I got my rear owned my first time through Dream Mentor (low melee for ya) and ended up using the duck in and out technique for RFD. And quite simply, I don't need 43 prayer to be invincible. I need one mage or one range... WHOA! I STARTED WITH THOSE!... Yeah. And you can kinda buy into combat no matter what using the logic presented here. Instead of buying d bones, try buying bloods. There goes your mage. Oh and what's that other thing called, that huge medieval anachronism... A cannon? Yeah, I believe so. A cannon. Hitting 30s at lvl 40 range... Wow. And what's this??? Whips give crazy experience???? Who knew???????? Here's the bottom line:

 

 

 

In Runescape, the amount of money you have and the time you spend on something are inversely proportionate. If you don't have one, you'll use the other. Either that or you'll end up ranting.

 

 

 

Oh... I use lobs on aberrants \

 

 

 

oh yeah, forgot you can use whips at lvl 1 attack and bloods at level 1 mage, completely forgot about that. and cannons are even more expensive to maintain than prayer.

[reaper88888]

Assuming that your RSN is correct, maybe you're just mad because you can't use any of the protect prayers? And besides, things like barrowing and getting fire capes would be practically(barrows), and in some cases(Jad), completely, impossible without prayer. Now with quests, I agree that prayer is a cheap way out, but for anything else, it rocks. Try getting decent prayer and combat stats, go do some barrows, or try to kq, and then you might appreciate how hard it is without prayer.

[rareghoul1]

Assuming that your RSN is correct, maybe you're just mad because you can't use any of the protect prayers? And besides, things like barrowing and getting fire capes would be practically(barrows), and in some cases(Jad), completely, impossible without prayer. Now with quests, I agree that prayer is a cheap way out, but for anything else, it rocks. Try getting decent prayer and combat stats, go do some barrows, or try to kq, and then you might appreciate how hard it is without prayer.

 

 

 

i'm pretty sure that using prayer on kq wouldn'y do anything, she switches her attack so often. jad, a lot of low level people just range, and they beat him. no, i'm not mad that i can't use protections, i can't think of i time where i would use them...

[ianer101]

what i'm trying to say is that prayer makes it impossible to be hit if you're fiughting a 1, count them chocobodude, 1 fighting style monster. prayer makes you invincible to these monsters while you are fighting, and make it possible to avoid taking damage, enabling a lower leveled player to beat a monster they couldn't with food. this also gives lower leveled pures an advantage in pvp, while not making them invincible, giving them the upper hand against stronger, but lower prayer players. in essence, this is buying your way into combat as well.

Most monsters that fight with only one style are so weak that you could easily finish them off with an inventory of sharks. I think this rant is like saying that Guthans is unfair because it makes you invincible against most creatures. This isn't true, just because you are too lazy to make money for Guthans/prayer doesn't mean that other people who aren't so lazy should be put at a disadvantage. I've checked your name on the high-scores, and you aren't ranked in prayer. Are you ranting because you never took the time to bury bones and are now being affected by it?

[rareghoul1]

what i'm trying to say is that prayer makes it impossible to be hit if you're fiughting a 1, count them chocobodude, 1 fighting style monster. prayer makes you invincible to these monsters while you are fighting, and make it possible to avoid taking damage, enabling a lower leveled player to beat a monster they couldn't with food. this also gives lower leveled pures an advantage in pvp, while not making them invincible, giving them the upper hand against stronger, but lower prayer players. in essence, this is buying your way into combat as well.

Most monsters that fight with only one style are so weak that you could easily finish them off with an inventory of sharks. I think this rant is like saying that Guthans is unfair because it makes you invincible against most creatures. This isn't true, just because you are too lazy to make money for Guthans/prayer doesn't mean that other people who aren't so lazy should be put at a disadvantage. I've checked your name on the high-scores, and you aren't ranked in prayer. Are you ranting because you never took the time to bury bones and are now being affected by it?

 

 

 

the only time i use prayer is in castle wars, and this isn't a rant, it's to discuss how prayer affects combat and how rich low level players can take advantage of this, i don't even care anymore, i wanted this topic to be closed

[Latinoking]

Join another game then Prayer is very useful PVP and Normal but people don't like it in PVP because they can't get that "Easy Kill" that they wish; which is lame. But that's my opinion.

 

 

 

How would people get Fire Cape w/o prayer?

[rareghoul1]

Join another game then Prayer is very useful PVP and Normal but people don't like it in PVP because they can't get that "Easy Kill" that they wish; which is lame. But that's my opinion.

 

 

 

How would people get Fire Cape w/o prayer?

 

 

 

once again, we're not talking about jad, just normals

[Latinoking]

Join another game then Prayer is very useful PVP and Normal but people don't like it in PVP because they can't get that "Easy Kill" that they wish; which is lame. But that's my opinion.

 

 

 

How would people get Fire Cape w/o prayer?

 

 

 

once again, we're not talking about jad, just normals

 

 

 

Ok then. How could people protect themselves in the wilderness w/o prayer?

[malo2]

Join another game then Prayer is very useful PVP and Normal but people don't like it in PVP because they can't get that "Easy Kill" that they wish; which is lame. But that's my opinion.

 

 

 

How would people get Fire Cape w/o prayer?

 

 

 

once again, we're not talking about jad, just normals

well you have already been told that nobody wastes prayers on "normal" monsters, except for a select few, because nobody is willing to waste that kind of money. You have been proven wrong many times over, and yes, everyone understands your point.

 

 

 

You're just one of those kids that can't start a decent argument, yet still goes on after hes been proven wrong for 3 pages. Heres a tip: if you are arguing that something is bad, don't single out just one case. You can't just say "hey prayer is over powered, and should be nerfed or removed, but don't argue about the bosses, quest monsters, pvp, ect... just the regular monsters!"

[berbatovsky]

The key point here seems to be that prayer is easy to lvl (buyable) from someone that has never spent a cent on prayer or used a gilded alter or ectofunctus you can suck my balls. Bones-Big Bones-Dragon bones thousands dead, thousands buried, i worked for my prayer. Point the 2nd: for normal training/slayer i use prayer to get a few extra kills at the end when i have liek 10hits left and no health thats not cheap is it.(rhetorical)

 

 

 

If prayer lvl for melee protect is raised to 60 then only the rich could get it (not me)i work my balls off to improve my charachter and you are bascially saying my achievements are pathetic.

 

 

 

 

 

I'd agree to prayer been downgraded if all the monsters were aswell, you see without prayer the game is UNBALANCED. Good job.