xpx Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 just some facts... you CANT alch a crystal bow... and the 180k-900k is inclused 2500 rune-a-like arrows... msb is only 1500gp or something... and kharill c bow is 96k alch cuz its a barrow item... ''used to'' refers to the fact, that it once would, and doesnt anymore- hence i never said you can alch a crystal bow- anymore. and as you pointed- no bow sells to the store for more than a few thousand, and then you start talking about a cross-bow, that is really going offtopic- a crossbow is a crossbow and a bow is a bow. Now to the point- as i explained, the msb price is low because it can be made by players, while the supplys for the bow only cost 1.3k, while dark bows wont be able to be fletched by every second player in the game- it will be dropped by level 184 monsters that require lvl 90 slayer to be killed- dark bow is NOT just another bow. There is no proof that the bow is going to sell to the shop for more than x amount of money, but id be deeply impressed, if jagex would be stupid eunaugh not to make the bow proctect over barrows helmets.(then again, iwe been impressed by jagex-es actions many many times) First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myweponsg00d Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Ahem! You seem to have missed 'For playing castlewars' off that list. If it matches cbow in power, or the spec is good enough, it might be a great help in killing the flag. :twisted: OH YES! whats a very good idea, would good for castlewars. I would use it for castlewars for sure :thumbsup: Unless the spec really owns, I think I'll stick with the good ole annoying seercull. Need assistance in any of these skills? PM me in game, my private chat is always ON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanNo1 Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 if i can afford 1 ill probably use it for training. im just hoping for a good spec that doesnt get nerfed :roll: There are three sides to every story: There's one side, there's the other, and there's the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomdavies90 Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 lets think its a msb but better.....of course ill use for training he he, and if they ever fall to like 200k id use for pking as well Sig by me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apcrump Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 May try dking with it if its any good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impaler99 Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 many people posting here discussing about the prices always forget that this bow is a slayer monster drop. What does this mean to the prices? well, if the dark bow is similar to the abyssal whip- best bow there is(better than msb) and the droprate is also similar, there is no way the price could end up lover than the abyssal whip. Why? Only 90+ slayers can kill dark beasts, and if they do, they are doing it only for the money- and if dark beasts were LESS profitable than abyssal demons, not a single soul would bother killing dark beasts. So no- the bow will never be cheap- it probobly wont ever even drop below 2m, unless ofcource there will be a better bow. It will be just like the beloved abyssal whip- only few could buy them at the beginning, but as time went past, they kept lowering and lowering, they still do, but no- it will still never be a cheap bow. On the topic- what is whip used for? everything that envolves meleeing- what will be dark bow used for- everything that envolves ranging. Excuse the pun but your waay off target. A requirement will make the bow obviously more POWERFUL then the MSB (the spec will be up for debate in the PK deparement). But it will not be better then the C bow or x bow in terms of stats. The price will be high but only because of the small amount in the game. Dark bow will only be useful for training and possibly castlewars and minigames. It will be the best, non-costly bow in the game, but from its look it's a longbow, and who the heck uses long bows #-o First off, don't judge a bow by its concept art...your points are hilarious. That would be like people arguing, when the whip came out, if they did it this way and told us it was coming...that whip can't be better than dragon dagger because its gotta be the fastest, and who uses whips anyways? Here, I will personally GUARANTEE you it will be the best pking bow...and almost every archer will protect it over whatever they choose to wear with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warlover Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 If it's faster than crystal bow and hit as hard I could use it for training. And I don't see how I could use it pking tbh unless they tweak range a bit cause it's pretty underpowered atm. Surprise, surprise... A ranger complaining about range being underpowered. Even when they get an update they wanted, they complain. Even if they were given the ability to max hit everytime they'd whine about being underpowered, in the recent months range for got a crossbow expansion, then a futher crossbow update, a promise a further crossbow powerups and a new powerful box BUT still whining... *its pretty pathetic* -- 2001 Starter -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwrm22 Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 just some facts... you CANT alch a crystal bow... and the 180k-900k is inclused 2500 rune-a-like arrows... msb is only 1500gp or something... and kharill c bow is 96k alch cuz its a barrow item... ''used to'' refers to the fact, that it once would, and doesnt anymore- hence i never said you can alch a crystal bow- anymore. and as you pointed- no bow sells to the store for more than a few thousand, and then you start talking about a cross-bow, that is really going offtopic- a crossbow is a crossbow and a bow is a bow. Now to the point- as i explained, the msb price is low because it can be made by players, while the supplys for the bow only cost 1.3k, while dark bows wont be able to be fletched by every second player in the game- it will be dropped by level 184 monsters that require lvl 90 slayer to be killed- dark bow is NOT just another bow. There is no proof that the bow is going to sell to the shop for more than x amount of money, but id be deeply impressed, if jagex would be stupid eunaugh not to make the bow proctect over barrows helmets.(then again, iwe been impressed by jagex-es actions many many times) it wasnt all pointed to you... just didnt quote the other... ^^ click my sig for my lesser ranging guide ^^jwrm22: 4816th > 99 cooking 100% f2p !1172 total! + 140mil in items.i dont play anymore... i think rs is ruined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzazeal Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Train with it I suppose. Dragon arrows arnt mandatory for id you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrench_150 Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 I'm not buying it no matter what if it costs millions...I'll stick the money into crystals bows for like 180k each. I'm not a staker...pker...or any of the sort. I just go to cwars with my crystal bow which is enough for me xD If it isn't too expensive...I just might buy it for the looks if it's smexy, I would use chinchompas for training at pc or crystal bows somewhere. I'm not much of a ranger anyways. 99 Fletch~~99 WC~~79/81 Fishing87/94 Magic~~84 RangeEtha! Saradomin Forever~CWCB: 107 Total: 1788+ON BREAK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berrakus Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 At first, the only people who will be buying/using these bows will be rich people who want to show off and high stakers. And for all these people who think that the bow price will drop quickly, I wouldn't count on it. Don't forget that Dark Beasts require constant prayer pots. If the drop rate is so low that you have to use several 100K in prayer pots to get one, people aren't going to want a break-even sell price. Most people will go back to Abby Demons at that point and the low supply of Dark Bows will keep the price high. Dragon Drops - 10 Meds, 9 Legs, 5 Skirts, 2 Left HalfPM me to have any potions made or crafting done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superson Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 OK where would you use the dark? Would you going pking with it? Its going to cost millons and the arrows are going to cost lots to. This will a stupid idea. :-X If it protects over most items, like a whip does, then people WILL PK with it. Would you train with it? Id rather use chinchompas.... would you? Chinchompas are quite expensive, and when you're done using them you have nothing left to sell back (You wouldn't train with dragon arrows, probably with bronze or iron. You could sell the bow when done) Would you go monster hunting with it? It could be good for monster killing, with accumulator? Id try to make every arrow count since there will cost lots. Id try to make me own. I don't understand what you mean by 'monster hunting' Would you buy it for looks lol? mmm if i had the money to splash on it :XD: I don't understand why someone would buy a weapon for looks... armour I could understand, but a weapon not really. You don't see people with whips just for looks... At least I don't. In Soviet Russia, glass eats OTers. Alansson Alansson, woo woo woo! Pink owns yes, just like you!GOOOOOOOOOO ALAN! WOO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeCroLoGiCa Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Dag Kings :P no doubt about it :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSxqPowerx Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Lol, we should get everyone in gof with a dark bow to do a crazy dragon arrow dk raid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemurian Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Well, if it gives better Range Bonus than Mage Short, and can use normal arrows, I'll probably use it for Training. If I ever get the money, lol. Owner of Quest Cape since 11/9/2007 23:30! Working my butt off to get it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardovilian Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 At first, the only people who will be buying/using these bows will be rich people who want to show off and high stakers. And for all these people who think that the bow price will drop quickly, I wouldn't count on it. Don't forget that Dark Beasts require constant prayer pots. If the drop rate is so low that you have to use several 100K in prayer pots to get one, people aren't going to want a break-even sell price. Most people will go back to Abby Demons at that point and the low supply of Dark Bows will keep the price high. For the reasons stated above, if the dark bow isn't DAMN good, the cost of obtaining it / sale price will outweigh the perceived value / purchase price, and it will simply drop off the runescape radar. i.e. Slayers will be saying, "There's no way I'm selling this bow for less than 200k after the time and money I expended obtaining it", while potential buyers will be saying, "Well its only a little better than the MSB so there's no way I'm paying 200k for it." I'm sure Jagex will have thought of this, so expect a rocking new weapon. :-w Why is 'common sense' so named, when there is so little of it about?Welcome to puberty, we've been expecting you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drgnslyer_15 Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 If its short bow speed i'll use it everywhere i used my MSB... I don't have to have those nifty lil dragon arrows i'll use my mith addy or rune... Its all about the speed and if its better than the msb... I rarely use my Cbow but like i said if its just as fast as msb and has a lil more power i'll use it anywhere i'd use MSB RSN: drgnslyer15 15 skills 90+ - 10 skills 99 - 200m+ total exp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddeeh Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 OK where would you use the dark? Would you going pking with it? Its going to cost millons and the arrows are going to cost lots to. This will a stupid idea. :-X To be honest though, from now on, pking range using anything but a Dark Bow wont be honorable, seeing as you must use the most expensive equipment available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piman1053 Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Where would you use dragon arrows? The only times I can think of using rune arrows is for pking and quests. Pking is out of the question, so that leaves quests, but you'll usually use the more powerful magic if you can't melee and know a safespot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilhuff Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 There are plenty of stakers with hundreds of millions or even billions, who would gladly part with a small portion of it just to test the bow out. And I'm sure some of those will buy one to see if there are any bugs with it they can abuse.* Merchants will want to get their part of the profits too. Rest assured that the first bows will be sold for tens to hundreds of millions even if their stats aren't that amazing. I'll probably use the bow to make loads of cash. For training ranged I use a cannon while I'm slaying, sometimes with a crystal bow if melee isn't efficient. So in that respect it's probably not for me. *Disclaimer: not all stakers are bug abusers and I do not intend to start a flame war over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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