piman1053 Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 3A kite owners shouldn't have wasted cash on a status symbol, although its the closest a partyhat will ever come to winning a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHawK Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Are 3rd age armor f2p? it doesnt have the little (m) beside it www.di-rs.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makoto_the_Phoenix Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 While you're right about the Dragonfire Shield now becoming the best shield in the game (fully charged), you forgot to weigh a few more things. 1. 3rd Age kiteshields are extensively rare to come across; considering that you have a 1 in 10,000 chance of acquiring one from a clue scroll. 2. Dragon Left Halves are just as rare as 3rd Age in many cases, except that the monsters that are being actively slain take significantly less effort than a clue scroll to acquire. 3. Ten thousands of players (if not hundreds) are clamoring more and more to acquire a Visage, since it requires practically the same effort as slaying an Iron, Steel, or (King) Black Dragon, as opposed to going through 10,000 scrolls for a 1% chance at one. Overall, 3rd Age won't take a hit since it's obscenely rare. Just because something better in the game comes out doesn't affect all lower armor prices; look at Dragon Chain vs. Barrows Armor! :P Linux User/Enthusiast | Full-Stack Software Engineer | Stack Overflow Member | GIMP User...Alright, the Elf City update lured me back to RS over a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredz Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 3rd age was never that expensive because of its def bonus, but because its so rare. It might drop, but "only" for about 10-20m. Till now i didn even know Jagex updated the shield lol :D Third Age full helm 24,000,000gp - 26,000,000gp Third Age platebody 58,000,000gp - 59,000,000gp Third Age platelegs 50,000,000gp - 60,000,000gp Third Age kiteshield 150,000,000gp - 180,000,000gp I'm sorry to disappoint you. But the third age kite was not so expensive because of its rarity. But it was expensive because it was the best melee gear to have in the shield spot. Making "high" stakers crave for their extra bonuses. I'm afraid that in a matter of weeks the third age kite will be as expensive as the plate/legs. (That is in fact a 100mil drop) 21 lag piles, 4 Pjs, 2 Party hat kills, 67 newbs teached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smapla Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Dragonfire shields are about 40 mil now :uhh: I killed about 90 irons today, no success :x tomorrow, more irons or black dragons. (last day of school! well... last day of finals, we have wednesday for some reason >_>) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill_Thomas9 Posted June 19, 2007 Author Share Posted June 19, 2007 3. Ten thousands of players (if not hundreds) are clamoring more and more to acquire a Visage, since it requires practically the same effort as slaying an Iron, Steel, or (King) Black Dragon, as opposed to going through 10,000 scrolls for a 1% chance at one. Couldn't help but point out that a 1/10,000 chance is a .01% chance, not a 1% chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemis_42 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Also, remember that is is a 1/10,000 chance of getting a piece of third age, period. Then you still have the 1/12 chance of getting the kite after you take that into acount, so really it is much rarer than your giving it credit for. So far it appears as if Visages are easier to obtain than a peice of third age. However I can't see these shields dropping any lower than 20mil, at least not for a long time. "Those who know nothing, can understand nothing" - Ansem, Kingdom Hearts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Profins Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Kites will drop, but not much, and probably not for too long - at one point people will understand both shields are VERY rare. But something else will drop alot - D legs, d meds, d skirts and possibly d bones/d hides. More or less everyone is killing metals for visage, all the worlds are crowded at metals.. I got d legs on 3rd iron myself, eventhough I was on task..but did task just because of visage. So yeah. Jagex > Economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAram Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Third Age is a godly reward for a clue scroller and with the new shield people are going to flood dragons bringing in an excess shields/Draconis visage to make the d fire shield lower its value so 3rd age wont drop by much and it might not even drop at all. "My Weapon is my faith. Even I die, my faith shall never fall before the enemy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2g2003 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 2. Dragon Left Halves are just as rare as 3rd Age in many cases, except that the monsters that are being actively slain take significantly less effort than a clue scroll to acquire. 3. Ten thousands of players (if not hundreds) are clamoring more and more to acquire a Visage, since it requires practically the same effort as slaying an Iron, Steel, or (King) Black Dragon, as opposed to going through 10,000 scrolls for a 1% chance at one. Things about that is. Most of the stuff that drop the Visage will drop left halves as well. So while people are chasing after the Visage... they'll be coming across other Dragon items. Which will maybe make 3rd Age seem all the more rarer. Not saying this would increase 3A by any means, but it really is something to think about. Not to mention that way back when... people were claiming Dragon Chain would never drop under like 20 - 30M... and from the looks of it, it's gone way below that. Third Age just seems like another Dragon Chain. Might take WAY longer to fizzle out, but eventually it will. R.I.P Shiva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy87 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 2. Dragon Left Halves are just as rare as 3rd Age in many cases, except that the monsters that are being actively slain take significantly less effort than a clue scroll to acquire. 3. Ten thousands of players (if not hundreds) are clamoring more and more to acquire a Visage, since it requires practically the same effort as slaying an Iron, Steel, or (King) Black Dragon, as opposed to going through 10,000 scrolls for a 1% chance at one. Things about that is. Most of the stuff that drop the Visage will drop left halves as well. So while people are chasing after the Visage... they'll be coming across other Dragon items. Which will maybe make 3rd Age seem all the more rarer. Not saying this would increase 3A by any means, but it really is something to think about. Not to mention that way back when... people were claiming Dragon Chain would never drop under like 20 - 30M... and from the looks of it, it's gone way below that. Third Age just seems like another Dragon Chain. Might take WAY longer to fizzle out, but eventually it will. good to see 1 of the older smart posters still around occasionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pati Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 gues what? they removed the strength bonus :| Computers will never be above humans because we made them.That's what monkeys used to say about us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joes_So_Cool Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 I think the new dragonfireshield will stabilize at around 10m. Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomdavies90 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 its the rarity giving it the massive price not the defence bonus, true not as much demand, but there isn't much supply either so itll balance, it may fall slightly Sig by me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThruItAll Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 They will drop, but I'm sure theres gonna be some collectors... danke Schon Sam!^^"Blood runs thicker, oh were thick as thieves you know"-Carl Barât Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill_Thomas9 Posted June 19, 2007 Author Share Posted June 19, 2007 2. Dragon Left Halves are just as rare as 3rd Age in many cases, except that the monsters that are being actively slain take significantly less effort than a clue scroll to acquire. 3. Ten thousands of players (if not hundreds) are clamoring more and more to acquire a Visage, since it requires practically the same effort as slaying an Iron, Steel, or (King) Black Dragon, as opposed to going through 10,000 scrolls for a 1% chance at one. Things about that is. Most of the stuff that drop the Visage will drop left halves as well. So while people are chasing after the Visage... they'll be coming across other Dragon items. Which will maybe make 3rd Age seem all the more rarer. Not saying this would increase 3A by any means, but it really is something to think about. Not to mention that way back when... people were claiming Dragon Chain would never drop under like 20 - 30M... and from the looks of it, it's gone way below that. Third Age just seems like another Dragon Chain. Might take WAY longer to fizzle out, but eventually it will. good to see 1 of the older smart posters still around occasionally. I doubt the third age kite will ever drop like that. There is a 1/10,000 chance of getting a third age item from a clue. Stack that with the 1/12 chance of getting a 3rd age kite (12 3rd age items) Stack that with the 1/100 chance of getting a clue from a monster drop in the first place That gives you less than a 1/10,000,000 chance, or a .00001% chance of someone getting a third age drop. Simply, you have to kill 12 million monsters that drop clues in order to get a 3rd age kite. If those monsters have 1/3 the hp of a kalphite queen, and are 1/4 as hard, that means it is the killing the equivalent of 1,000,000 kalphite queens. And what are the odds of getting a chain from a kq? 1/1000? That means a third age kite is 1000x rarer than a dragon chain. So if the dragon chain took 3 years to drop this low, then a third age kite will take 3,000 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scout_ivar Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 well i always thought the kite was the most expensive part, because you can wear it without any other third age equipement. se if someone wears a third age body with a d legs it would look ugly and if im hounest i think tird age is mostly for looks and as an sign of wealth, just like wearable rares so to conclude i think third age wont drop that much, because its manly for the looks. surelly no-one will train with equipement that totals 200mil+ Barrows drops: guthan helm x1, torags hammers x1, karils top x1, ahrims staff x1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aresgodowar Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 gues what? they removed the strength bonus :| please tell me that is a photoshop :cry: Americans love to fight. All real Americans love the sting of battle. George S. Patton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobjoe Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 It's not that bad if you actually owned one yourself 8). Whats up with your guys face? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzyboy Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 so guys ? did they removed the str bonus or not ?!?!?!?! something to say about my english grammar ?!?!? , okay , but do it in french ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurgen Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 they didn't, just an error in the KB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzyboy Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 they didn't, just an error in the KB tanks something to say about my english grammar ?!?!? , okay , but do it in french ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 they didn't, just an error in the KB Thank god. Anyway, I think that third age prises will go down. People purchased them becuase they were the only shields in the game that would not degrade in addition having the best defense bonuses. They aren't the top to the ladder now. ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Simply, you have to kill 12 million monsters that drop clues in order to get a 3rd age kite. If those monsters have 1/3 the hp of a kalphite queen, and are 1/4 as hard, that means it is the killing the equivalent of 1,000,000 kalphite queens. And what are the odds of getting a chain from a kq? 1/1000? That means a third age kite is 1000x rarer than a dragon chain. So if the dragon chain took 3 years to drop this low, then a third age kite will take 3,000 years. That's the worst case scenario. It's possible it can happen on the first try, just very unlikely. Also that's accounting for one person. there are probably about 10-20 thousand level 3 clues a day. that means a 3rd age kite hypothetically comes into the game ever 6-12 days. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiierarch Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 It's not that bad if you actually owned one yourself 8). What are you wearing on your torso? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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