I agree with Fastforce, making a level 333 harder to kill seems right to me.

I agree with most people here -- in the long run (when they get all the bugs fixed), this will be an improvement to the game. The fight caves will still be beatable -- it will just require new strategies (meaning - you people who have beat the fight caves 25 times need to get in there and help all the rest of us out!)

It has to be positive over all. It's only making the game better, and improving existing monsters to make it more realistic. Monsters were so wooden when they used to dumbly move east and then north just to attack you.

 

 

 

However, I am slighty annoyed about this affecting the Fight Caves. I got to Jad on Friday and bought another trip a few days ago to attempt this weekend, looks like my plans will be put on hold, as I used luring and menus alot. I hope my dream cape and number 1 goal ATM doesn't disintegrate because of this update.

i am personally supportive of Jagex's initiative, for reasons such as A) it makes DK's more challenging (as FastForce mentioned), and that 1-def pures are no longer able to so easily get a fire cape.

 

 

 

Should a lvl 702 be able to be defeated so easily by lvl 60s and such? I think not. Those who wear it should DESERVE to wear it!

I like it this way, Kings are fun again.

I like it this way, Kings are fun again.

 

Yeah. Bosses are ment to be hard and fun, not safespoting w/o using prayers and stuff.

 

 

 

Also nothing major but in the first post it says lvl 333. I changed to 303. All the kings are lvl 303 sorry bout that :P

black drags kept attking me and i couldnt figure out why...

 

 

 

caus ther is 1 spot in the zanaris place where the drag is ontop of u but cant reach u bc he cant go diagonal. well...now they can...

tbh i d dnt watch vid i just watched it cos evanescence is my fave band. i cant really spot diff, i range prime :P so him moving isnt a big prob

Upgrading AI in Runescape is best thing ever.

Upgrading AI in Runescape is best thing ever.

 

 

 

theyre still stupid :P

does this affect blue dragon safespot ranaging?

Well, with all the updates rangers have gotten this month I suppose they had it coming to get nerfed...

lol black simon look at your sig and location before you talk. :thumbsup:

 

 

 

On topic: I like it they made NPCs less stupid

Great... now there's no way i can kill dag kings (dial up) :cry:

 

 

 

 

 

Still a safe spot for Barrows brothers?

 

 

 

Yeah all you saying it should be harder is pretty funny, see'ing as your already maxed or dont train combat, maybe it dosent matter for you, But now They make Regular training harder and pc still owns all in exp.

Great... now there's no way i can kill dag kings (dial up) :cry:

 

 

 

 

 

Still a safe spot for Barrows brothers?

 

 

 

Yeah all you saying it should be harder is pretty funny, see'ing as your already maxed or dont train combat, maybe it dosent matter for you, But now They make Regular training harder and pc still owns all in exp.

 

If you lag you could take a couple of hits from Rex before bringing him to the safespot. But it can be done on Dial-up dont give up :P

 

 

 

I havnt gone to barrows today but i'm assuming you can still use the rocks/ladders. Havn't confirmed though I'll go tomorrow and see.

 

 

 

And cmon admit that runescape is pretty easy. I'm not even maxed out in def and I can still solo kings, KQ, Chaos elemental, KBD..

Pretty easy, Just more of these annoying little things they add. After see'ing my friend going from 113-123 (will be 126 very soon) Using Money\PC made me realize it is very easy If you have money and have the patience to Play at pestcontrol, which i have neither so i wont max out for awhile :|

i beat fight caves

 

 

 

jad spawns right next to you, luring the 180's is alot harder though

lol dumb update got me killed... hadnt played RS for about a week, log in start killing black drags with hally and got owned by a 50 dragonbreath and 28 melee... only lost bout 700k worth of stuff but i also lost my fighter torso -.-

Perhaps I'm looking too deeply into this, but maybe Jagex didn't want to directly make range a tad less powerful, and did this instead. I mean, it's not like it affects meleers as much as it does rangers.

Exactly what safespot doesn't work with black drags at taverly? the ladder one, the opening with the monks of Zam, or the fire obelisk one?

Oh man... which means monster blocking is harder if not impossible

Oh man... which means monster blocking is harder if not impossible

 

Still possible, just more challenging. I'm liking this.

I think it's great. It looks better now when they can move diagonal.

Perhaps I'm looking too deeply into this, but maybe Jagex didn't want to directly make range a tad less powerful, and did this instead. I mean, it's not like it affects meleers as much as it does rangers.

 

 

 

 

 

You might indeed be looking into this too deeply, but I think you have a very good point. Safespots don't really make a difference to meleers, but a lot to rangers. Altough it could affect meleers in the fight caves, since it makes monster blocking somewhat harder...

 

 

 

Since I haven't played Runescape since Januari I can't just go test this update for myself, so I'm wondering, can npc's only walk diagonally, or also attack diagonally?

I kinda noticed this but didn't really think about it. If you think about it that might be good for you dkers because the prices could go up a tiny bit on the drops. Otherwise I think its a good update. Getting a firecape has been easier and easier with new clue scroll items, prayer switching with still attacking, and some other things (although I like it getting easier since I don't have a fire cape 8-)) so that should be a little more challenging

 

 

 

Edit- could someone confirm that the safespots in barrows have or haven't been nerfed. Becuase if they are then that ruins the whole method of not using a prayer pot.