Quest cape Requirments up again?

[y3ahyeahy3ahs]

This new quest now requires 65 defense. (im not a pure). i was thinking now i walk around the wilderness to watch fights sometimes im sure we all do if we get bored once in a while. After the quest dream mentor required 85 combat but still we saw rune pures in quest cape's so does it seem now that the quest cape is slowly being made into a cape for balanced charecters? Is jagex trying to make all charecters balanced out? I am not against it im wondering what everyones opinions r about it. :-k

[Bobbington]

They are not trying to make player anything to be honest with you.

 

BUT what they have stated in the past is they will not compromise content because a certain player group cant use it.

[coonas]

Jagex have said so themslefs that quest cape is most common cape, so i think that might be why these quests are so dang harder now, i still havent got mine back since grim tales, still getting that woodcutting.

 

 

 

Also just adding this, i think fletch/cook cape most common tbh

[Ginger_Warrior]

It's no secret Jagex dislikes pures for their contempt of the combat level system. Maybe this, like the PC update, is an attempt to really drill in this message. The prayer's are fairly anti-pure TBH, providing an advantage that pures simply can't use.

[Green_Link]

The quest cape isn't supposed to be a pure cape, it's supposed to be a cape wearable by those who have completed all the quests. Future quests will add to the necessary requirements for the cape.

 

 

 

Maybe the pures should get themselves 99 cooking instead. :notalk:

[superway25]

Rune pures use fire capes anyway

[Bobbington]

It's no secret Jagex dislikes pures for their contempt of the combat level system. Maybe this, like the PC update, is an attempt to really drill in this message. The prayer's are fairly anti-pure TBH, providing an advantage that pures simply can't use.

 

 

 

Hi,

 

Just to clear up a few things, although I expect to most people this a common sense.

 

 

 

We don't "Hate" pures at Jagex. Players are welcome to play the game however they like as long as they do so within the rules. If players want to try focusing on one particular ability or just do quests or whatever, they are completely welcome to do so. Really! I don't mind!

 

 

 

However our aim in creating RuneScape as always been to produce a game where players are rewarded for leveling up all their skills and trying out everything. That's always been the approach throughout. For instance you can only get certain items by doing certain quests. In fact furthermore the aim has been to try and make the different areas of the game tie into each other, so doing one piece of content unlocks another, and doing that one unlocks another, and so forth.

 

 

 

If players don't want to play certain bits of content or level certain skills they are still free to do so, but just remember our aim is to make sure everything in the game is worth doing and has fun rewards. Players deliberately not doing a bit of content won't get the rewards associated with that bit of content. (stands to reason!).

 

 

 

Also since we try to make completed content unlock further content as a reward, deliberately not doing a certain bit of content will prevent you from doing other bits. For example if you deliberately chose not to the "priest in peril" quest it would mean there were loads of other quests you also couldn't do, but it would be absurd to complain that meant we "hate" people who haven't done "priest in peril"!!

 

 

 

Players complaining they haven't got rewards because they haven't achieved the thing the reward is intended to be for is of course silly, and will be ignored. Being able to wear better armour is one of the main rewards for leveling defence! We're no more likely to deliberately allow that than we would for example deliberately allow a player with only level 1 cooking to cook a shark.

 

 

 

Pures are not a feature supported by Jagex. Players are perfectly welcome to create a pure account, but they do so with the understanding that certain parts of the game will be unavailable to them.

 

 

 

The nature of pures means that Jagex couldn't possibly make everything accessible to all pures. For example, it's possible that a quest with a range requirement could be done by a range pure but not by a strength pure.

[Latinoking]

Lol Pures get owned yet again. 8-)

 

 

 

Pures are just going to have to learn to stay in the Wilderness where they belong not trying to act cool because they got a quest cape at such a low combat.

[n64jive]

It's no secret Jagex dislikes pures for their contempt of the combat level system. Maybe this, like the PC update, is an attempt to really drill in this message. The prayer's are fairly anti-pure TBH, providing an advantage that pures simply can't use.

 

 

 

It's not that they don't dislike pures. It's more that a group shouldn't have an advantage of a different group because they have less levels.

[andy_matthews]

If Jagex kills pures, I'm happy. It will kill some of the arguement over pures...

[kelbri]

It's no secret Jagex dislikes pures for their contempt of the combat level system. Maybe this, like the PC update, is an attempt to really drill in this message. The prayer's are fairly anti-pure TBH, providing an advantage that pures simply can't use.

 

 

 

It's not that they don't dislike pures. It's more that a group shouldn't have an advantage of a different group because they have less levels.

 

As Andrew said, they don't "hate" pures. It's more of a 'we aren't gonna tailor the game to them' thing. You don't wanna level your defence, you're stuck wearing bronze armour. You wanna be a wood cutting pure? You won't be able to weild a better axe than bronze, so you can only cut 27 logs at a time, where I can wield a rune axe, so I can cut 28.

 

 

 

It's really a matter of the "pures" complaining that they can't do 'X', because they don't have the defence/strength/farming/etc... Jagex isn't going to say "Oh, you can't get a quest cape cause you only have 60 cb? Let's change that requirement then to be 60 rather than 85".

 

 

 

Bottom line, if you choose to be a pure, you choose not to access certain parts of the game. Don't complain, Andrew said that's the way it is, and it won't be changing.

[highlanders]

I don't think pures care about the quest cape at all. They want that 99 str eh :P

[Aneron]

I love how you need 55 def to use the level 60 prayer, when you need 65 def to do the quest that unlocks it :lol:

[Bard_Bow_Man]

I love how you need 55 def to use the level 60 prayer, when you need 65 def to do the quest that unlocks it :lol:

 

 

 

I wonder why someone at jagex didn't figure that out...

 

 

 

OT: Yes quest cape req are going up; I had to use evil stew to finish grim tales, and no longer own the cape myself, seeing as I am ftp and died while pking a few days ago.

[Latinoking]

I love how you need 55 def to use the level 60 prayer, when you need 65 def to do the quest that unlocks it :lol:

 

 

 

Me and my friend were discussing how about that!

 

Highly Illogical but w/e; it's their game.

[Ginger_Warrior]

Wasn't that source by Andrew said some two years back? I remember this being highlighted in a previous thread about pures. Two years ago, Jagex didn't fully understand the true effect pures would have on PKing and the combat system in general. Now they do know of this effect, it wouldn't be unjustifiable to reverse back on that statement, as it doesn't represent the modern-day situation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dunno about Jagex "cutting out" pures, but they certainly seem to be doing their best to discourage them and make them less fashionable. The two new prayers are blatently disigned to provide an advantage that's unavaliable to pures.

[Bard_Bow_Man]

Wasn't that source by Andrew said some two years back? I remember this being highlighted in a previous thread about pures. Two years ago, Jagex didn't fully understand the true effect pures would have on PKing and the combat system in general. Now they do know of this effect, it wouldn't be unjustifiable to reverse back on that statement, as it doesn't represent the modern-day situation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dunno about Jagex "cutting out" pures, but they certainly seem to be doing their best to discourage them and make them less fashionable. The two new prayers are blatently disigned to provide an advantage that's unavaliable to pures.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A few months ago (more than 3 but less than 6 I think); there was a sticky somewhere in RSOF and that 1st long quote was what they had on the front page. I don't have any proof though.

[guitar_god_2007]

but people who are lvl 85 USUAly have 65 defence...

[Jard_Y_Dooku]

 

I love how you need 55 def to use the level 60 prayer, when you need 65 def to do the quest that unlocks it :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Me and my friend were discussing how about that!

 

 

 

Highly Illogical but w/e; it's their game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe if your level gets lowered from the ice lands or beer or something, you can't use it unless your "current" level is 55, not your base?

[Marco]

The quest cape isn't itended for pures, and I don't think Jagex ever intended that. It is clearly a cape of balance, showing that you've got a cape by doing hundreds of strange tasks killing random beasts and scrawling Runescape to find even the most obscure treasure.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Unlike a Cooking/Fletching cape, which shows you can stand in a bank and clicking occasoinally.

 

 

 

Bring on the higher requirements I say! :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And I really find it unlikely that the Quest Cape is more common than, say the Fletching Cape..

[Latinoking]

 

 

I love how you need 55 def to use the level 60 prayer, when you need 65 def to do the quest that unlocks it :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Me and my friend were discussing how about that!

 

 

 

Highly Illogical but w/e; it's their game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe if your level gets lowered from the ice lands or beer or something, you can't use it unless your "current" level is 55, not your base?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Barley rarley your defense falls it's most attack that beers lower. But useful update none the less.

[y3ahyeahy3ahs]

yea good responses guys keep them coming :D im not a pure i had a pure but my main electro skel is 72 def so.. im nor against it. And no jagex doesnt hate pures. but i used to see like level 85+ run pures with quest capes i hope to get 1 1 day :D

[Guest]

Lets not forget that the decisions made on these quests aren't made to "get rid" of pures, they are made to increase the enjoyment of the game. Like Andrew said opening up new content, connecting stories, it's just like life...if you cut yourself off from everything you are missing so many things.

[Viv]

i dont think i had 65 defence at level 85 but i do think that jagex is trying to make the qp cape a cape that is harder to get.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

trixstar is your sig broken says you have 89 rcing 91 farm 93 slay......?

[Soulthresher]

Most common capes are strength, cooking, firemaking, and fletching. I don't see alot of quest capes besides on some high 80s and low 90s :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jagex doesn't hate pures because they shell out $5 a month and get banned and make new ones. Pures cut their defense for a reason and therefore do not get the benefits. Its a trade off.