First off: This thread started with an article about a man injuring cats and then feeding them to his dogs, but then some of the resident tip it "post something that matters" people came in and went haywire.

 

 

 

So I made it into "something that matters"

 

 

 

Here is the original Article:

 

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What a loser, taking neighboorhood cats, INJURING THEM, and then feeding them to his pitbulls. And on top of that...he has firearms and "grass" in his house.

 

 

 

 

 

Can you spell [developmentally delayed]? (PMG I JUST DID!@qwe%!!!!)

 

 

 

This especially makes me mad because of him purposefully injuring and feeding the cats to his dogs...I absolutely hate cruelty to animals.

 

 

 

 

 

People these days....ugg

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For those of you who don't trust links :P:

 

LAWRENCEVILLE, Ga. - A man captured neighborhood cats and kittens and fed them live to his pit bulls, authorities said Thursday. Tye Hilmo, 21, was charged Thursday with aggravated cruelty to animals.

 

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Hilmo was already in jail on drug, firearm and probation violation charges, Gwinnett County sheriff's spokeswoman Stacey Bourbonnais said.

 

 

 

The new warrant charges that Hilmo "did give injured live cats and kittens to his pit bull dogs and let the pit bulls kill the already injured cats and kittens. Hilmo would capture and injure neighborhood cats for this purpose."

 

 

 

He was arrested Sept. 10 after investigators serving a search warrant on his house found guns and two pounds of marijuana, Bourbonnais said. He has been jailed since then.

 

 

 

Authorities found the bodies of two kittens near Hilmo's residence. Bourbonnais said they also found a gruesome image on Hilmo's cell phone: a picture of one of his pit bulls and one of the mauled, dead kittens, and beneath picture a caption that says "Good Dog."

 

 

 

"It's pretty disturbing," Bourbonnais said.

 

 

 

The initial tip about Hilmo indicated he may be feeding kittens and cats to his dogs to prepare the dogs for fighting, but no dogfighting charges have been leveled against Hilmo, Bourbonnais said.

 

 

 

Sheriff's officials could not immediately say whether Hilmo has an attorney.

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I'm a junkie for the prevention of cruelty to animals.

 

Even Cruelty to animals like rats or mouses pisses me off.

 

 

 

I hate it! The animals were here before we were and we come in and treat them like crap.

 

 

 

So what is your stand on it? Have you guys ever done anything to help attempt to stop it?

 

 

 

A guy I know works for the ASPCA(American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals) he said its the best job and the worst at the same time. (due to what horrible conditions the animals are in, but also how they save so many thousands of animals)

 

 

 

 

 

Personally I think no animal is to big or to small to be ignored.

 

One Thing I want to clarify is that this ISN'T a "You should all be vegetarians" post. I've already said that several times. Its mistreating the animals that is the problem.

 

 

 

 

 

A Question you should all be able to answer from insane:

 

One thing I always ask animal rights activists is if they spend an equal or greater amount of time campaigning for human rights. So, topic author, do you spend an equal or greater amount of time campaigning for human rights? If not, do you think animal rights are more important than human rights?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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No one here is going to turn around and say, "Yes, I'm for cruelty to animals. We need to be cruel" so that's pretty much a giv'n.

 

 

 

Where the controversy lies is in the treatment of animals towards human gain. Taming animals was the first and probably most important step in distinguishing humans as the dominant species, so I'm not going to turn around and say "Oh we shouldn't use animals" otherwise, I, nor any of you, would not be sitting here today if our predecessors has.

 

 

 

Thr arguement on the treatment is hard to discuss rationally due to the elements of ambiguity and ignorance. One persons torture is another's acceptable behaviour and some issues, definately for me, anyway, people do not know enough about the behaviour or what actually happens to make a fair judgement. Speculation and propaganda doesn't help, tyvm PETA.

 

 

 

To put it this way, using animals is fine with me so long as it isn't used to excess. I think most people feel this way if I digress. If a cow is to be killed for food, then kill it in the quickest, most efficient and, importantly, humane way. Humane, we're humans after all, we know the boundaries so do it. Don't skin it alive or drain its blood or any of this bollocks, get it done with.

 

 

 

If an animal is being tested for medicinal purposes because it's currently the best and most efficient way, again, fine by me. This of course is one of those issues I'm ignorant in, I don't know if there are better ways or what happens. I'd like to know the truth, but that's very unlikely.

 

 

 

If it was revealed, like 100% positive, that somewhere like Burger King electrocutes zebras to death for their quarter pounders, then yeah, I'd probably boycott out of principle. But I just don't know.

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Your gonna get flamed

stop posting articles unless its someting actually worth it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wall:

Your gonna get flamed

 

 

 

hehe you called it :P

 

 

 

 

 

and to riku....how isn't this article worth it? Its about a serious problem that every country in the WORLD faces! Cruelty to animals. The Firearms and Marijuana are just a side thing :roll:. Are you saying that cruelty to animals is ok?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jeez..... :(

I bet you if they were something like rats, you wouldn't give a damn.

 

 

 

Just like the people who go crazy when dolphins get stuck in the tuna net, but what about the tuna?

 

 

 

 

 

I am not saying it is right though

Lol, do you live under a rock? We don't.

wow, thats pretty cruel. :? i can't imagine why you would do that to any animal.

I bet you if they were something like rats, you wouldn't give a damn.

 

 

 

Just like the people who go crazy when dolphins get stuck in the tuna net, but what about the tuna?

 

 

 

 

 

I am not saying it is right though

 

 

 

 

 

not true....any animal of any sort really doesn't deserve "cruelty" of any sort. Even if it is freaking ugly.

 

 

 

 

 

And what do you mean "Do you live under a rock"

 

 

 

 

 

I'm changing the title of this topic

 

 

 

 

 

edit:and thanks knex2...my first actual reply :x

I think animal abusers should be given the death penalty.

 

 

 

I think it's only slightly less horrific than human torture...it's a living thing with emotions and it's not your place to hurt it for no reason.

 

 

 

I do, however, not give a crap about conditions in farms that raise food animals. They have not known any other life and their prupose does not merit a luxurious life.

I think animal abusers should be given the death penalty.

 

 

 

I think it's only slightly less horrific than human torture...it's a living thing with emotions and it's not your place to hurt it for no reason.

 

 

 

I do, however, not give a crap about conditions in farms that raise food animals. They have not known any other life and their prupose does not merit a luxurious life.

 

 

 

 

 

If animals could speak and think logically, it would be equivalent of human torture. (well actually the animals would just be humans so it would be the same :? )

 

 

 

I agree with the stuff you say. But, to the food animals statement: Lets use cows as an example; if they were raised and grown under slightly improved conditions wouldn't their meat taste better? or be healthier of something of that sort. "Great milk comes from happy cows." So couldn't Great meat come from happy cows too?

 

 

 

 

 

Or is my logic just tripping over itself :wall:

When I eat meat, I'm very grateful to the animal, because it has died for me to able to eat. And I try to eat avoid meat products whenever possible.

 

 

 

I think animal cruelty should be avoided at all costs. Why make suffer a being when you don't have to?

 

 

 

A lot of people need to relearn compassion on this matter.

Torturing it for no reason is what I'm against. I withdraw on the protection of killing farm animals and fish for food. We need the food, we got to get it one way or another.

Torturing it for no reason is what I'm against. I withdraw on the protection of killing farm animals and fish for food. We need the food, we got to get it one way or another.

 

 

 

 

 

Of course we need the food....this isn't a crazy vegitarian rant thread :P

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not opposed to killing "stock" animals for food. Those particular animals were put on the earth for us to eat.

Hmm...maybe this guy will loan me his pit bulls, there is this cat in my neighborhood, owner lets it out every day, goes in my garage (its open because my dad is doing some home improvement), annoys my dog when i take her out to relieve herself, meows loudly outside my door (dumb cat thinks my house is my neighbor's :? ) and yesterday I found a nice surprise in my driveway :evil:

If I have to kill 500 dolphins, 30 whales, 80 dogs, 5000 cats, 120 chimpanzees, and a hippo to find the cures for AIDS and cancer, and possibly human stupidity, give me a knife and I'll get the job done.

 

 

 

Oh, ya, I hate cats. And whales are hard to kill single-handedly, so I gave myself a break.

No one here is going to turn around and say, "Yes, I'm for cruelty to animals. We need to be cruel" so that's pretty much a giv'n.

 

 

 

Where the controversy lies is in the treatment of animals towards human gain. Taming animals was the first and probably most important step in distinguishing humans as the dominant species, so I'm not going to turn around and say "Oh we shouldn't use animals" otherwise, I, nor any of you, would not be sitting here today if our predecessors has.

 

 

 

Thr arguement on the treatment is hard to discuss rationally due to the elements of ambiguity and ignorance. One persons torture is another's acceptable behaviour and some issues, definately for me, anyway, people do not know enough about the behaviour or what actually happens to make a fair judgement. Speculation and propaganda doesn't help, tyvm PETA.

 

 

 

To put it this way, using animals is fine with me so long as it isn't used to excess. I think most people feel this way if I digress. If a cow is to be killed for food, then kill it in the quickest, most efficient and, importantly, humane way. Humane, we're humans after all, we know the boundaries so do it. Don't skin it alive or drain its blood or any of this bollocks, get it done with.

 

 

 

If an animal is being tested for medicinal purposes because it's currently the best and most efficient way, again, fine by me. This of course is one of those issues I'm ignorant in, I don't know if there are better ways or what happens. I'd like to know the truth, but that's very unlikely.

 

 

 

If it was revealed, like 100% positive, that somewhere like Burger King electrocutes zebras to death for their quarter pounders, then yeah, I'd probably boycott out of principle. But I just don't know.

As much as I try to stick to morals, i'm always the first one to eat KFC, and we know they dont exactely treat animals right.

 

At the end of the day we're human, and yeah, maybe that does mean breeding a species of animal so we can eat it no problem. I do, however, believe they should use free range only.

 

IMO, Human gain is fine, anything that's cruelty for no reason isn't. I'm an animal lover, but sadly, that means both owning pets and eating animals.

You got this off the PETA forums?

 

 

 

You PETA members are so hypocritical, your quick to stand up for the animals that everyone likes(i.e dogs, cats, dolphins, ect.) but you don't bat an eyelash when you kill a mosquito or cockroach...

You got this off the PETA forums?

 

 

 

You PETA members are so hypocritical, your quick to stand up for the animals that everyone likes(i.e dogs, cats, dolphins, ect.) but you don't bat an eyelash when you kill a mosquito or cockroach...

 

And another thing! Why throw paint on fur coats? It ruins the coat and the animal dies for nothing, really, and the person just buys another coat (if, that is, they are rich, as it seems many fur-wearers are), killing more animals.

You got this off the PETA forums?

 

 

 

You PETA members are so hypocritical, your quick to stand up for the animals that everyone likes(i.e dogs, cats, dolphins, ect.) but you don't bat an eyelash when you kill a mosquito or cockroach...

 

 

 

 

 

Should I know what PETA is? :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Because no I didn't.....I'm not a member of any society type things(if thats what PETA is...)

 

 

 

 

 

And about the mosquito cockroach thing. Their minds work differently then dogs, cats, dolphins ect. They don't really have much of a mind. While dogs ect DO. They feel things alot more then bugs do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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You got this off the PETA forums?

 

 

 

You PETA members are so hypocritical, your quick to stand up for the animals that everyone likes(i.e dogs, cats, dolphins, ect.) but you don't bat an eyelash when you kill a mosquito or cockroach...

 

 

 

Haha, did you see their new ad on digg?

 

The digg thing (don't want to link to the actual article)

 

 

 

You have no idea how much these people (and Justin timberlake) piss me off.

You got this off the PETA forums?

 

 

 

You PETA members are so hypocritical, your quick to stand up for the animals that everyone likes(i.e dogs, cats, dolphins, ect.) but you don't bat an eyelash when you kill a mosquito or cockroach...

 

The distinction between things like mostquitos and mammals is pretty much the same distinction between humans and other mammals.

No one here is going to turn around and say, "Yes, I'm for cruelty to animals. We need to be cruel" so that's pretty much a giv'n.

 

 

 

Where the controversy lies is in the treatment of animals towards human gain. Taming animals was the first and probably most important step in distinguishing humans as the dominant species, so I'm not going to turn around and say "Oh we shouldn't use animals" otherwise, I, nor any of you, would not be sitting here today if our predecessors has.

 

 

 

Thr arguement on the treatment is hard to discuss rationally due to the elements of ambiguity and ignorance. One persons torture is another's acceptable behaviour and some issues, definately for me, anyway, people do not know enough about the behaviour or what actually happens to make a fair judgement. Speculation and propaganda doesn't help, tyvm PETA.

 

 

 

To put it this way, using animals is fine with me so long as it isn't used to excess. I think most people feel this way if I digress. If a cow is to be killed for food, then kill it in the quickest, most efficient and, importantly, humane way. Humane, we're humans after all, we know the boundaries so do it. Don't skin it alive or drain its blood or any of this bollocks, get it done with.

 

 

 

If an animal is being tested for medicinal purposes because it's currently the best and most efficient way, again, fine by me. This of course is one of those issues I'm ignorant in, I don't know if there are better ways or what happens. I'd like to know the truth, but that's very unlikely.

 

 

 

If it was revealed, like 100% positive, that somewhere like Burger King electrocutes zebras to death for their quarter pounders, then yeah, I'd probably boycott out of principle. But I just don't know.

 

 

 

I was trying to think how to put what I thought into words, and this is exactly it.

 

 

 

Humans are the dominent species. As long as we are beinifiting I don't really see a problem. Its not something you can say is right or wrong, it just sort of is.

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This isn't the warlock forums!

I love animals, even flies, snails, toads, rats and so on. I don't exactly need slugs, but i wouldn't harm them either. Mosquitos i hate with a passion, but who doesn't? I do eat meat (again. I have been a vegetarian for some years), but i wouldn't want to meet the guy who kills what i eat.

 

 

 

Animal cruelity? Imagining a living being in pain causes me pain. People who are hurting something are basically hurting me. Sometimes i wish i could walk around and "panic gaze" (the power of ghost rider) people, so they could see what pain they are causing. They'd go mad. Fools.

 

 

 

"Why are we so blind to see that the ones we hurt are you and me." =P

 

 

 

A circle of suffering that causes more suffering. Yeah!

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT: I'm totally against animal testing of drugs, cosmetics or whatever. I believe the end doesn't justify the means. Period.

 

 

 

A word about leather. Cow skins are basically a waste product. You have to pay the meat industry, so they don't ruin the skins, wich would be cheaper.